Jonas01 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Might be a bit of topic, but does anyone here have an idea of what the point is of having 3 legs in the U.S to play the EXCACT same songs? Since the tour started in the U.S now this autumn, the setlist haven't been changed ONE time. IT'S THE EXCACT SAME SONGS EACH NIGHT. WHY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 40 minutes ago, Jonas01 said: Might be a bit of topic, but does anyone here have an idea of what the point is of having 3 legs in the U.S to play the EXCACT same songs? Since the tour started in the U.S now this autumn, the setlist haven't been changed ONE time. IT'S THE EXCACT SAME SONGS EACH NIGHT. WHY Yeah Europe got two identical legs. At this point this thread shouldn't be called New Shows Setlist Discussion but rather What The Fuck Is This Shit There's a Glitch in The Matrix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Jonas01 said: Might be a bit of topic, but does anyone here have an idea of what the point is of having 3 legs in the U.S to play the EXCACT same songs? Since the tour started in the U.S now this autumn, the setlist haven't been changed ONE time. IT'S THE EXCACT SAME SONGS EACH NIGHT. WHY They're mostly not playing the same places more than once though. They've put a show together and they're touring round the country for different people to see each night, pretty simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas01 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Hermione said: They're mostly not playing the same places more than once though. They've put a show together and they're touring round the country for different people to see each night, pretty simple. Yes, i see but they are not selling out, then why are they coming back for 3 legs? 3 hours ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: Yeah Europe got two identical legs. At this point this thread shouldn't be called New Shows Setlist Discussion but rather What The Fuck Is This Shit There's a Glitch in The Matrix. The setlist is their best setlist ever but just a few songs out and a few ones in would be so much better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jonas01 said: Yes, i see but they are not selling out, then why are they coming back for 3 legs? I dunno, maybe they're still selling enough to be profitable/for it to be worthwhile? I don't think they'd do it otherwise. Just playing as much of the country as they can I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 41 minutes ago, Jonas01 said: Yes, i see but they are not selling out, then why are they coming back for 3 legs? The setlist is their best setlist ever but just a few songs out and a few ones in would be so much better... I do like the setlist, I also wish they would switch it up a little each night. It annoyed me they brough back Are We The Waiting and Knowledge and dropped all trilogy. I don't care but SWTRLF and Brutal Love are some of my favourite live songs ever. Other than that, and actually Minority in the middle sucks, either open with it or stick it near the end, but damn the middle it falls so flat with the introductions. It's a good setlist just could be better. My main hope was that second leg they would play some different Rev Rad songs like Troubled Times, Bouncing off the wall and Too Dumb To Die. Like on 21CB they played Viva La Gloria, Murder City and American Eulogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas01 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 See this is what i created: 21st Century Breakdown Know Your Enemy Bang bang East Jesus Nowhere Viva La Gloria Iron Man/Sweet Child o Mine/Rock n Roll King For A Day Longview Welcome to Paradise When i come around Brain Stew Hitchin a ride Minority Going to pasalacqua Basket case Christie road Letterbomb Holiday Boulevard of broken dreams Restless heart syndrome Are we the waiting St jimmy Still Breathing Forever now American idiot Jesus of Suburbia We Are The Champions Acoustic: 21 guns Whatsername Wake me up when september ends Good Riddance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 38 minutes ago, Jonas01 said: See this is what i created: 21st Century Breakdown Know Your Enemy Bang bang East Jesus Nowhere Viva La Gloria Iron Man/Sweet Child o Mine/Rock n Roll King For A Day Longview Welcome to Paradise When i come around Brain Stew Hitchin a ride Minority Going to pasalacqua Basket case Christie road Letterbomb Holiday Boulevard of broken dreams Restless heart syndrome Are we the waiting St jimmy Still Breathing Forever now American idiot Jesus of Suburbia We Are The Champions Acoustic: 21 guns Whatsername Wake me up when september ends Good Riddance But you have three songs from the album they're touring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas01 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Justin said: But you have three songs from the album they're touring Yes i have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhere Man Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 I don't understand one small thing. If they make deep cuts - it's always for old school songs. We have "Only of you" or "Private Ale" or "Paper Lanterns" etc, or something from Insomniac like "Armatage Shanks" or "Stuart and the Ave". Don't get me wrong, I love 1039 and Kerplunk, but I hate the fact that they mostly ignore the deep cuts from more recent albums like Warning or 21stCB. I understand the Trilogy issues, was discussed before, but why they always prefer Paper Lanterns or Going to Pasalacqua to Church on Sunday and East Jesus Nowhere, for example. It's like they just forgot that they made some music in 2000s (except for AI of course). Only the hits like Minority, KYE and Waiting from time to time. And it's a mystery for me. Why no love for new school Green Day from them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillenniumFan Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 @Nowhere Man While I agree with you, that's provided they play any deep cuts at all! But yeah, there's definitely some 21CB gems they could play such as EJN, Viva La Gloria, Before The Lobotomy, Restless Heart Syndrome, Horse Shoes and Handgranades and even the title track. From Warning: Church On Sunday, Macy's Day Parade, Castaway etc. Even: Whatsername and Homecoming from AI would be fabulous! And speaking about the trilogy (which admittedly I'm not too fond of as a whole): I'm still waiting for Dirty Rotten Bastards to be played live! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jonny Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Paper Lanterns and Pasalacqua are simpler to pull out quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyChunks Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 13 hours ago, Jonas01 said: Might be a bit of topic, but does anyone here have an idea of what the point is of having 3 legs in the U.S to play the EXCACT same songs? Since the tour started in the U.S now this autumn, the setlist haven't been changed ONE time. IT'S THE EXCACT SAME SONGS EACH NIGHT. WHY Yeah, I've been surprised too- for example, here in the Boston area on the 21CB tour they played the same exact venues with the same amount of time in between- and on that tour, it was a noticeably different setlist the second time through. In fact, on the latter legs of the 21CB tour they changed things up dramatically from the first legs. I thought this would happen for sure this time around and I was wrong. Still had a blast at the latest shows, but the approach this tour has been different. 3rd leg the same as the 1st (and even very similar to the club gigs with the exceptions of a few switches). 3 hours ago, Nowhere Man said: I don't understand one small thing. If they make deep cuts - it's always for old school songs. We have "Only of you" or "Private Ale" or "Paper Lanterns" etc, or something from Insomniac like "Armatage Shanks" or "Stuart and the Ave". Don't get me wrong, I love 1039 and Kerplunk, but I hate the fact that they mostly ignore the deep cuts from more recent albums like Warning or 21stCB. I understand the Trilogy issues, was discussed before, but why they always prefer Paper Lanterns or Going to Pasalacqua to Church on Sunday and East Jesus Nowhere, for example. It's like they just forgot that they made some music in 2000s (except for AI of course). Only the hits like Minority, KYE and Waiting from time to time. And it's a mystery for me. Why no love for new school Green Day from them? On the Trilogy tour they played SWTRLF, Stay the Night, Carpe Diem, Stray Heart, Oh Love, X-Kid, and Brutal Love quite frequently (they hit these songs when I saw them) and I think they also played Nuclear Family at a show I didn't see...just guessing, but it's probably a combination of not loving these songs at the moment combined with the fact that they had toured this stuff relatively recently. I think a couple (Stay the Night and hopefully Brutal Love) come back on future tours. I'd be surprised if they were done with this material for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 7 hours ago, Jonas01 said: Yes i have. Which would be terrible considering that's what the tour is for to promote the album, therefore as a new setlist it wouldn't be good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AimieeSmith Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 My setlist at the moment would be this Bouncing Off The Walls Bang Bang Revolution Radio Holiday American Eulogy Nuclear Family Wake Me Up When September Ends Boulevard Of Broken Dreams Church On Sunday Reject Armatage Shanks No Pride Longview When I Come Around Brain Stew / Jaded Basket Case She Outlaws Too Dumb To Die Still Breathing Forever Now 21 Guns (Full Band) Somewhere Now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas01 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 11 hours ago, Justin said: Which would be terrible considering that's what the tour is for to promote the album, therefore as a new setlist it wouldn't be good I have Bang Bang, Still Breathing and Forever Now yes. The strongest songs from the album imo. Bouncing of the walls and Outlaws / Ordinary World could have been songs that could have entered the setlist a few times for me, but not a lot. I think WMUWSE, Whatsername, 21 Guns, Good Riddance are a lot better acoustic songs than Ordinary World. 5 hours ago, AimieeSmith said: My setlist at the moment would be this Bouncing Off The Walls Bang Bang Revolution Radio Holiday American Eulogy Nuclear Family Wake Me Up When September Ends Boulevard Of Broken Dreams Church On Sunday Reject Armatage Shanks No Pride Longview When I Come Around Brain Stew / Jaded Basket Case She Outlaws Too Dumb To Die Still Breathing Forever Now 21 Guns (Full Band) Somewhere Now Fairly interesting but i would never want this setlist xd . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Welcome To Paradise dropped tonight, 21 Guns switched for WMUWSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaughingClock Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 On 9/8/2017 at 9:20 AM, CherryBombs&Gasoline said: So this thread is mainly about the setlists, but I read a lot of complaints about all the shows beeing more or less the same. Let me share my thoughts on this with you: Every band has a different style when it comes to their live performances. Some bands use fireworks and pyrotechnics, others don't. Some have huge video screens, others don't. Some artists change their setlist very often, some artists don't do it (). And some bands like to interact with the crowd. That's what Green Day does. I saw the Red Hot Chili Pepers last year and at their show, there was almost no interaction with the crowd. They basically just played their songs and left. I didn't like that because I didn't feel connected to the band. But I guess that's just their style. Green Day interacts a lot with the fans during the show. Yes, it's true that they mainly use the same tricks at every show, but that's how they can make sure that the audience and the band feel connected. I understand that some people don't like t, but I bet that many wouldn't be happy if they didn't do it and just played their songs instead. There is no perfect show, no perfect setlist or whatever. But it's certainly a good thing that the band constantly tries to involve the crowd and the fans. You're very right but it would do them well do keep doing exactly what they do, and play some different songs. Do you have any idea how hard it is to have as many hits as they have? They are not the youngest band in the HOF for nothing. I know people that would sell an organ to go to a GD show and they would go to 10 if they would play different songs. You have the well, its your well, drink from it because we are all thirsty. Green Day does not need to rely on the casual fan and they do to their own peril on ticket sales. They should be a 2 minute stadium sell out for every show in the states and EVERYTHING you said is right but that doesn't mean that if they can't stop playing KFAD at one show and add Horseshoes and Hand Grenades at another. People would go more to the shows becauaw they wouldn't know what they were about to get this time. Fact is they could do that and they have enough hits to still calm the casual fans with the hits. I know a ton of fans and industry fans that aren't going to Chula because they know it will be the same show in 3 days here. I fucking LOVE Star Wars but I don't watch it daily. Gimme some Empire, Jedi, Rogue 1 even. Ok, I'm stretching the analogy but yeah both shows are GONNA BE FUCKING AWESOME but you'll get more travelers that are more loyal (super fans like us) if you play different songs. Anyway, this leg has been particularly, even conspicuously similar from show to show. RevRad alone has enough hits for everyone. So I agree with you that the ice cream is delicious but poor some butterscotch and sprinkles on it and watch the fuck out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherryBombs&Gasoline Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 4 hours ago, LaughingClock said: You're very right but it would do them well do keep doing exactly what they do, and play some different songs. Do you have any idea how hard it is to have as many hits as they have? They are not the youngest band in the HOF for nothing. I know people that would sell an organ to go to a GD show and they would go to 10 if they would play different songs. You have the well, its your well, drink from it because we are all thirsty. Green Day does not need to rely on the casual fan and they do to their own peril on ticket sales. They should be a 2 minute stadium sell out for every show in the states and EVERYTHING you said is right but that doesn't mean that if they can't stop playing KFAD at one show and add Horseshoes and Hand Grenades at another. People would go more to the shows becauaw they wouldn't know what they were about to get this time. Fact is they could do that and they have enough hits to still calm the casual fans with the hits. I know a ton of fans and industry fans that aren't going to Chula because they know it will be the same show in 3 days here. I fucking LOVE Star Wars but I don't watch it daily. Gimme some Empire, Jedi, Rogue 1 even. Ok, I'm stretching the analogy but yeah both shows are GONNA BE FUCKING AWESOME but you'll get more travelers that are more loyal (super fans like us) if you play different songs. Anyway, this leg has been particularly, even conspicuously similar from show to show. RevRad alone has enough hits for everyone. So I agree with you that the ice cream is delicious but poor some butterscotch and sprinkles on it and watch the fuck out. I agree, I was refering to the people who complained about all the "Hey-O's" and the interaction with the crowd, which makes every show feel the same. You know, I saw them for the first time this summer. Sure, I'm a fan since 2009, but I never got to see them live. I was blown away by their energy and I loved the setlist. They could have played any song, I would have loved it either way. But I don't know how it'll feel to see them for a second, third, or fourth time. I dont know if I'll get tired of the standard-setlist or not. I'll probably enjoy every GD show in the future, but it would be amazing to hear some songs I haven't heard before. I get your point. Alternation is the keyword. They could, for example, play Are We The Waiting/St. Jimmy one night and Brain Stew/Jaded the other night. Or they could alternate between Youngblood and Too Dumb To Die or 2000 Light Years Away and Who Wrote Holden Caulfield. Instead of playing Jesus of Suburbia in the encore, it would be perfectly possible to play two or even three other songs instead, since JOB is such a long song. What about Give Me Novacaine, 21 Guns and, I don't know, maybe something from Insomniac? That would allow them to play Ordinary World as an accoustic version, instead of 21 Guns. Etc... I totaly understand the frustration of a lot of people. I simply can't complain about the current setlist because I have only seen them once so far and I WANTED to hear their biggest hits. In the end, it's up to them. I'm quite sure that nothing will change on this tour. But maybe next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I've seen them 6 times since 2009, and they played 9 songs I'd never seen before at the show I attended on this tour. Seeing as the VAST majority of not just casual concert goers, not just Green Day fans, but even for the most part pretty big Green Day fans such as myself who are into them enough to post about them on a forum etc don't see them multiple times per tour I don't think that's bad going. They might stick to a setlist throughout a tour but it won't be identical for the next tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaughingClock Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 36 minutes ago, Hermione said: I've seen them 6 times since 2009, and they played 9 songs I'd never seen before at the show I attended on this tour. Seeing as the VAST majority of not just casual concert goers, not just Green Day fans, but even for the most part pretty big Green Day fans such as myself who are into them enough to post about them on a forum etc don't see them multiple times per tour I don't think that's bad going. They might stick to a setlist throughout a tour but it won't be identical for the next tour. Yeah, it's not a leg to leg problem, just show to show. Remember in the states, it's easier to be able to go to 5-7 shows on a single leg. I get your point and TBH, this is the first leg ever that I can remember where they are playing literally zero audibles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jonny Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Yup, new he'd be pulling out September Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imXieli Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 23 hours ago, Justin said: Welcome To Paradise dropped tonight, 21 Guns switched for WMUWSE sucks that they dropped welcome to paradise. one of my favorite "old songs" they play still. i could care less for WMUWSE even though it's september (which, yknow means anniversary of andy's death so i get it) but there's already so...fucking...MUCH american idiot on this setlist to the point where if they're gonna add another it better be novacaine, homecoming, or whatsername not the literally ONLY american idiot single they DONT play live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatsername Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Is it true that they played a snippet of Redundant after Hitchin a Ride at their show in San Antonio on the 9th? It says so on setlist.fm, but I couldn't find anything in the thread of the show. If it is true, what happened there? I love that song! And did they probably just switch 21 Guns for WMUWSE at the last show because it was September 11th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 4 hours ago, MMwhatsername said: Is it true that they played a snippet of Redundant after Hitchin a Ride at their show in San Antonio on the 9th? It says so on setlist.fm, but I couldn't find anything in the thread of the show. If it is true, what happened there? I love that song! And did they probably just switch 21 Guns for WMUWSE at the last show because it was September 11th? Definitely did not happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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