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22 minutes ago, Whatsername_123 said:

They didn't play them at all. Some clown put random songs on the setlist. See my updated post.

 

That's so disappointing! I literally spent a good 20 minutes hunting for clips of Nuclear Family and Stop When the Red Lights Flash.

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38 minutes ago, Psycho Shop said:

That's so disappointing! I literally spent a good 20 minutes hunting for clips of Nuclear Family and Stop When the Red Lights Flash.

SWTRLF needs to come back for sure 

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3 hours ago, Lauren said:

Why is everyone defending the set list saying "oh well not everyone knows all their songs so they have to just play the hits". This is not a stadium tour with people saying "oh Green Day is in town next week? I like a few of their songs, I'm gonna get $20 lawn seats for my family so we can enjoy a fun night out". 

This is an intimate club tour. Casual fans probably didn't even know about it until the tickets were gone. The set list they played was very similar to their stadium tours (and even then they'd change out 2-3 old/rare songs a night and swap them with different ones). 

I understand the stadium tours have to have all the hits. And Green Day puts on an amazing show, partially because it's so scripted (not only are they playing the same set list every night, but Billie says almost exactly the same things at the same points during the show). They are not a band that's meant to be seen more than once per tour (and frankly sometimes he even keeps the same speeches from tour to tour). It's kind of like seeing your favorite movie; you know from the moment you press play you're going to be entertained, but it's gonna be the same thing each time you watch it. It's reliable; there are no risks involved, but there are also no surprises, either.

When the club tour was announced, I was really thinking it'd be similar to the Irving Plaza club show they played in 2012 before Uno was released. Around 7-8 new trilogy songs, all the staples, and then a good chunk of random ratites like Brat, JAR, 409 in Your Coffeemaker, Dissapearing Boy, Only of You, Stuck With Me, At the Library, Paper Lanterns, etc. They did 38 songs in over 3 hours. 

Then I saw the first night in Ohio they played a really safe, short set. Similar to a stadium show but shorter (which I'm not sure if it was on purpose or just because they weren't feeling well, which is fine, I get it, and I'm really glad they're pushing through this). But I thought for sure they'd at least switch out 2-3 of the older/rarer stuff with different old/rare stuff but they didn't even do that. Super surprising. 

I love Green Day so much and I'd go to a show just to see them play King for a Day and then walk off the stage lol, so I'm not complaining. Maybe the fact that they never change up the set list is what makes them so good live. I just thought if there was ever a chance to hear some random old stuff casual fans wouldn't know, it would be on this tour. It would have been a nice treat, but I'd still rather see Green Day play the same set list at every show I go to over seeing any other band. 

 

3 hours ago, Jaymee!! said:

I can try and justify these setlists with the fact that a) it's their first time touring in 3 years so they have to find their groove again b) they're most likely still recovering from the illness c) they're older and might not necessarily have the energy and gusto that they did 6 years ago.

But it still remains that they're playing the most generic setlist of their careers. 2 1/2 hours of the biggest hits and crowd pleasers, with 3-4 new songs peppered in. That's bullshit, and that's not worth $80/ticket (most likely even $150+/ticket because of the overwhelming amount of scalping). Even if it's someone who hasn't seen them before or only once or twice. They built up their live shows as something to be guessed every night, and they aren't living up to that standard or expectation anymore through no fault but their own.

This and this.

All the "it's for the first time seeing them" fans, there's time for that. I expect to see Basket Case, Longview etc at those shows. This is the smallest set of venues as a tour they've done in years. It's just frustrating to see them play it so safe. Like 99% of people who tried to get tickets for these shows didn't so had to go through secondary means, IE they spent over face value and are hardcore fans. 1% of the fans at these shows are the "I like BOBD and I haven't heard anything else" which you'd get at arena shows. This just isn't the place I'd expect this standard setlist.

Honestly, if the setlist stays the same the tour announces I'd be more inclined to go to 1 show rather than 10

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On September 29, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Steven Seagull said:

Can Billie even play for that long? He looked gassed during Still Breathing. I never saw him sing that bad. :ermm:

Ya I hope the little guy is ok...

 

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19 minutes ago, Justin said:

 

This and this.

All the "it's for the first time seeing them" fans, there's time for that. I expect to see Basket Case, Longview etc at those shows. This is the smallest set of venues as a tour they've done in years. It's just frustrating to see them play it so safe. Like 99% of people who tried to get tickets for these shows didn't so had to go through secondary means, IE they spent over face value and are hardcore fans. 1% of the fans at these shows are the "I like BOBD and I haven't heard anything else" which you'd get at arena shows. This just isn't the place I'd expect this standard setlist.

Honestly, if the setlist stays the same the tour announces I'd be more inclined to go to 1 show rather than 10

The only reason casual fans are going is if their hardcore fan friend gave them their second ticket. So that means at least 50% of the people there are hardcore fans. There's no reason for it to be a scripted performance. We'd all be totally fine with Mike and Tre actually saying some stuff once in awhile, having a little banter on stage, having the crowd chant a song for them to do and they actually try it but fail (but it's ok cause it was fun and at least they tried!) I'm always in the pit anyway so to me there was no difference between these shows and stadium shows because I can't actually see how big the venue is behind me and Billie was acting like there were 50,000 people behind me when there were only 2-3000. Again he's a great frontman and puts on a great show but I do want an intimate feeling as well.

 

I also feel even at stadium shows they used to come out and say hi and they don't even do that anymore. Even though we were all waiting across the street, they pulled an empty truck in front of the exit doors to block us from seeing them leave. There was a little gap we could see through and they waved which was nice but it definitely did not feel as intimate as I thought it was gonna be. And with the bomb sniffing dogs and all, I feel like they think we are gonna hurt them or something which makes me sad they feel that way. I do understand why they do it but it's just sad that we live in a time where we have to worry about that stuff. 

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Excuse me if my facts are wrong-ish, not entirely correct, I'm a fan/not a journalist.

Anyway, I am checking out the latest set lists and am kinda realllllllly reallly massively disappointed there is basically nothing from the trilogy. Nor was there reallly a showcase of the new record. But I digress. The trilogy. Those records were mega underrated. They were like one great mega record with all the cool b-sides included. Yes, a lot to take in but boy weren't we lucky?? I love the fun Green Day / Foxboro Hot Tubs kind of songs that were very present on Dos especially but really all throughout the records. The songs are still new & fun enough to be exciting & I wish they'd play some stuff from those records! I'd be disappointed to go to a show & basically see an International Superhits show. What the world needs now... Is fun... Sweet fun... And I don't think a party is such a bad thing. It's a miserable world right now. Mix it up 😀😀😀

And yes I love all the records from the past couple of decades but to just not even have one single song from a whole entire trilogy on a set list is weird (especially if you're not totally showcasing the new record like when they used to play American Idiot front to back). Uno, Dos, Tre took balls! Fun balls! Whip 'em out!

 

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Maybe they think that the trio-logy din't live up to their expectations or something, but it did have some nice songs. 

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I honestly expected to see a repeat of 21st cb, with a "fuck the past" we're playing front to back revolution radio. Same note, I'm in no way disappointed to see the current setlist.

I think in large part the set changed to be samey because of their illness and because it's been a long long time since the band has been ripping up venues. Age may play a factor but not likely. 

Hopefully things change, they really don't stay the same for long usually.

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Dang it, I was hoping there was a show to watch unfold tonight.  I've got to get my mind off of some things.    

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1 minute ago, thatdude03 said:

Dang it, I was hoping there was a show to watch unfold tonight.  I've got to get my mind off of some things.    

just watched yesterdays.

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7 hours ago, Lauren said:

The only reason casual fans are going is if their hardcore fan friend gave them their second ticket. So that means at least 50% of the people there are hardcore fans. There's no reason for it to be a scripted performance. We'd all be totally fine with Mike and Tre actually saying some stuff once in awhile, having a little banter on stage, having the crowd chant a song for them to do and they actually try it but fail (but it's ok cause it was fun and at least they tried!) I'm always in the pit anyway so to me there was no difference between these shows and stadium shows because I can't actually see how big the venue is behind me and Billie was acting like there were 50,000 people behind me when there were only 2-3000. Again he's a great frontman and puts on a great show but I do want an intimate feeling as well.

 

I also feel even at stadium shows they used to come out and say hi and they don't even do that anymore. Even though we were all waiting across the street, they pulled an empty truck in front of the exit doors to block us from seeing them leave. There was a little gap we could see through and they waved which was nice but it definitely did not feel as intimate as I thought it was gonna be. And with the bomb sniffing dogs and all, I feel like they think we are gonna hurt them or something which makes me sad they feel that way. I do understand why they do it but it's just sad that we live in a time where we have to worry about that stuff. 

I totally agree- the setlists feel more impersonal now, which is a shame, and from my experience in the last day the band feels more inaccessible as well.

We had lined up a nice little charity benefit to contribute to an organization important to Billie and Adrienne, and we were confirmed as of Monday to be invited to Soundcheck and meet up at the venue backstage before the show. Needless to say, I've met them before and had really looked forward to it just to thank them for, well, the experience of meeting them before, for the joy of 25 years of great music, etc.

Yesterday they cancelled. Unfortunately, travel plans had changed with those involved (people close to the band that were hosting). They're sick and had to stay home, which is totally understandable but also crushing at the same time. No alternative plans or workarounds were apparently possible. Even though this is the biggest band the venue had ever hosted and the venue would have probably bent over backwards if the band had said it was important.

Through the process, I had been given contact information with someone close to the band. I sent a note hoping all was well, and while we'd love to find a workaround, we wished them good health and thanks for the kind thoughts and effort throughout. No response yet.

I love this band, but to your point I feel that they're perfectly fine being a bit disconnected with the fans right now, which sucks, but I guess that's what happens. Oh well, maybe next time.

 

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7 hours ago, Lauren said:

The only reason casual fans are going is if their hardcore fan friend gave them their second ticket. So that means at least 50% of the people there are hardcore fans. There's no reason for it to be a scripted performance. We'd all be totally fine with Mike and Tre actually saying some stuff once in awhile, having a little banter on stage, having the crowd chant a song for them to do and they actually try it but fail (but it's ok cause it was fun and at least they tried!) I'm always in the pit anyway so to me there was no difference between these shows and stadium shows because I can't actually see how big the venue is behind me and Billie was acting like there were 50,000 people behind me when there were only 2-3000. Again he's a great frontman and puts on a great show but I do want an intimate feeling as well.

 

100,000 likes from me.  They need to have faith in their back catalogue for f*** sake.

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Basic set list, not much changes at all. And love it or hate it, 21 Guns is their biggest hit in the last decade (backed up by sales and Streaming). They need to add it back in.

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I wish they would finish Scattered. I wonder why they decided not to play the entire song? Just seems weird considering how much people love it.

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I haven't even seen Green Day yet, but honestly, I could do without KFAD and Hitchin a Ride. I'd rather them sneak in a few more songs - especially older ones. Maybe they could replace KFAD with another fun song like...Platypus? That would be a real treat! :P

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1 hour ago, Haushinka! said:

I haven't even seen Green Day yet, but honestly, I could do without KFAD and Hitchin a Ride. I'd rather them sneak in a few more songs - especially older ones. Maybe they could replace KFAD with another fun song like...Platypus? That would be a real treat! :P

I wish someone from the band would read these posts.

#nokfadonthesetlist 

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19 hours ago, unextraordinarygirl said:

'They have potential to be a great band' :lol: They have been a great live band since they started touring in the 80's and they've just gotten better and bettet over the years. 

i never said they haven't been. they have been during the 21st century breakdown tour for example. the mixing up of songs even made up for the usual routines during songs like minority etc...

the american idiot tour wasn't really good either btw.

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I was thinking about how to come up with a setlist form for the Revolution Radio tour. 
I thought about opening with Somewhere Now. The acoustic intro part would be as an intro track like they had for 21stCB. They would enter playing by the "ever got so dull" part.
I know the song is not as kick-ass opener as Bang Bang but I really think they should invest on playing Somewhere Now - Bang Bang - Revolution Radio in a row. Maybe even Say Goodbye.

The point is: I think what this setlist is lacking is believing in the new record's strenght. KYE as the second song is a direct reminder for the 21stCB tour, which had this "in a row from the new record" part I'm talking about.

Then we would have  Holiday-BOBD, something from 21st (KYE & EJN?), the "90s ones" part here (but not the same ones they've been doing the past 6 years for God's sake), Waiting+new ones from RevRad, KFAD (yes even that), Minority, Still Breathing. Goes to encore.

Encore: AI, JOS, WMUWSE or 21 Guns (a new place for WMUWSE or not forgetting 21 Guns exists -- and I'm not a fan of the song).
The end would link Forever Now and Ordinary World (which would link to Somewhere Now as the album does)  and then Time Of Your Life.

That's just 10 minutes I spent thinking while listening to RevRad. I'm pretty sure they can do a hell of a better job if they stop a little bit to analyze and most of all believe in their own record.

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3 minutes ago, Otávio Vidal said:

I was thinking about how to come up with a setlist form for the Revolution Radio tour. 
I thought about opening with Somewhere Now. The acoustic intro part would be as an intro track like they had for 21stCB. They would enter playing by the "ever got so dull" part.
I know the song is not as kick-ass opener as Bang Bang but I really think they should invest on playing Somewhere Now - Bang Bang - Revolution Radio in a row. Maybe even Say Goodbye.

The point is: I think what this setlist is lacking is believing in the new record's strenght. KYE as the second song is a direct reminder for the 21stCB tour, which had this "in a row from the new record" part I'm talking about.

 

that's a non issue, since they are obviously just playing official known songs right now. they will play at least 7 new songs in europe. they could easily use the club tour to get some rare gems in there. beasically almost everything of insomniac that hasn't been played in ages, or some trilogy songs.

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5 minutes ago, Semi-automatic lonely boy said:

that's a non issue, since they are obviously just playing official know songs by now. they will play at least 7 new songs in europe. they could easily use the club tour to get some rare gems in there. beasically almost everything of insomniac that hasn't been played in ages, or some trilogy songs.

I know they will, but it seems they won't change starting the show with the same opening theme from The Good/Bad/Ugly, having the same KYE right in the beggining (which I love), the same Minority ending the set and the same encore minus Ordinary World. They'll just put the new songs on the trilogy setlist, which was already built on the 21CB setlist.

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I think part of the problem is that they have so many hits that maybe they think they have to play those, which leaves little room for much else. 

KFAD is rather baffling though as that wasn't even a single. They must really enjoy playing that live. 

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