New shows setlist discussion

[Jonas01]

17 hours ago, Hermione said:

Until this year I'd never been positioned near the catwalk at a GD show before and I could take or leave Are We the Waiting, but at the O2 in February I was and omg I totally fell in love with it . The way Billie reaches out to and sings to the crowd during it is so great. With him doing that along with the whole crowd swaying and singing along it's iconic.

Drop bloody JOS instead! I know everyone loves it but all they really do is play it straight through so there's no great on stage traditions lost, and it's long, and Forever Now has surpassed it as a more powerful and epic performance so I don't think it's strictly needed now.

Yeh just drop JOS, their best track ever.

[St. Jonny]

Putting at back at the beginning of the show like 2nd always works. Then come the end of the set they don't have to bust their ass doing such a long tune. They obviously used to it now HAHA

[Hermione]

58 minutes ago, Jonas01 said:

Yeh just drop JOS, their best track ever.

Well if you want different songs played they have to drop something to make room for them . Surely when they have 7 AI songs on the setlist it makes sense for it to be one or more of them, and most of the other AI songs they play are as well known if not better known than JOS. They have a new powerful long multi-part song to play near the end in Forever Now so why not, wouldn't be the only "essential" song they've dropped to make room.

[AimieeSmith]

It still puzzles me why the whole album hasn't been played live yet. It would great if they could do another version of storytellers . 

With the AI scenario they should keep AI , Holiday , Letterbomb - and the rest can go . Their is no need to bring back HC,  because like you say Forever Now is that longer song that can replace JOS in the setlist .

 

[Jonas01]

5 hours ago, Hermione said:

Well if you want different songs played they have to drop something to make room for them . Surely when they have 7 AI songs on the setlist it makes sense for it to be one or more of them, and most of the other AI songs they play are as well known if not better known than JOS. They have a new powerful long multi-part song to play near the end in Forever Now so why not, wouldn't be the only "essential" song they've dropped to make room.

I think almost every GD fan knows JOS and in my opinion it's the best GD song. To remove that from the set would be like removing Good Riddance or Boulevard in my opinion  

4 hours ago, AimieeSmith said:

It still puzzles me why the whole album hasn't been played live yet. It would great if they could do another version of storytellers . 

With the AI scenario they should keep AI , Holiday , Letterbomb - and the rest can go . Their is no need to bring back HC,  because like you say Forever Now is that longer song that can replace JOS in the setlist .

 

BOULEVARD????? JOS?  jees

[Hermione]

8 minutes ago, Jonas01 said:

I think almost every GD fan knows JOS and in my opinion it's the best GD song. To remove that from the set would be like removing Good Riddance or Boulevard in my opinion  

BOULEVARD????? JOS?  jees

Yes but almost all the songs they play are "essential" ones like those now, they have so many that they can't play them all and even ones like Brain Stew have had to get the chop. I don't even have a problem with their current setlist but if people want a bunch of different songs added there'd have to be some brutal culling to make space for them  

[St. Jonny]

Jesus Of Suburbia will never leave the set. Except for specially marked club or bar shows. Any tour will have JOS on it from here on out.

[Signe]

Alright, my dream show is to hear nimrod or AI in it's entire glory, front to back. But I doubt this will ever happen.

A part from that, I do enjoy the setlist. I like it, I know what I get. It's been the same routine for the enitre tour and at those I had the luck to witness,  it's been a fantastic experience everytime. Everytime. As I suppose is the same for the most of you other hardcore (or more). But of course the same routines comes with me knowing when I get to pee, and sure it eventually gets a little predictable. 

Here is what I love and what they can never take off the list: 

When I come around - this is my tune. It's a party. It's needed. 

Minority - the whole shouting "a free for all, fuck em all" makes me feel just as cool as it did when I was 12. I like it and it's a crowd arouser. Who doesn't like saying "fuck em all!"? 

Still Breathing - here comes the waterworks, you gotta let em out once every four years. 

Holiday - it's rowdy, it's fuck the power, it's damn well written and made. And we all like shouting that last little verse. 

Jesus of Suburbia - It's jesus of suburbia. 

Forever now - damn. 

Good Riddance - it's the final. There can be no other final. Also the waterworks mixed with confetti.  

* Here's what could be replaced: 

King for a day - it gets old, but I love the other songs and performances mixed in to it. What other song could be used? 

Hiticin' a ride - the pee song. It goes on forever and even though I love it, it's boring. 

Revolution Radio - it doesn't have the same.. weight (?) as bang bang and it always strikes me as slightly boring as it never goes to the next level.

21 Guns - I'm sorry, but still breathing does the job. 

Youngblood - A little too corny. 

Know your enemy  - it fits but meeeh.. 

Ideas about what should be played: 1000 hours, Outlaws, Uptight, Sassafrats Roots, She, X-kid, Nuclear Family, Bouncing off the wall (imagine the moshpit), stay the night, east jesus nowhere, murder city, homecoming, whatsername. 

That's all I can think of and I now feel sad and ashamed for critizing the setlist and the fact that it will take quite a few years before it's time to see them live again. 

[Caroline Truong]

I agree with you about Youngblood..it is corny or cheesy.. 

 

[VivaLaSteven7]

50 minutes ago, Signe said:

Alright, my dream show is to hear nimrod or AI in it's entire glory, front to back. But I doubt this will ever happen.

A part from that, I do enjoy the setlist. I like it, I know what I get. It's been the same routine for the enitre tour and at those I had the luck to witness,  it's been a fantastic experience everytime. Everytime. As I suppose is the same for the most of you other hardcore (or more). But of course the same routines comes with me knowing when I get to pee, and sure it eventually gets a little predictable. 

Here is what I love and what they can never take off the list: 

When I come around - this is my tune. It's a party. It's needed. 

Minority - the whole shouting "a free for all, fuck em all" makes me feel just as cool as it did when I was 12. I like it and it's a crowd arouser. Who doesn't like saying "fuck em all!"? 

Still Breathing - here comes the waterworks, you gotta let em out once every four years. 

Holiday - it's rowdy, it's fuck the power, it's damn well written and made. And we all like shouting that last little verse. 

Jesus of Suburbia - It's jesus of suburbia. 

Forever now - damn. 

Good Riddance - it's the final. There can be no other final. Also the waterworks mixed with confetti.  

* Here's what could be replaced: 

King for a day - it gets old, but I love the other songs and performances mixed in to it. What other song could be used? 

Hiticin' a ride - the pee song. It goes on forever and even though I love it, it's boring. 

Revolution Radio - it doesn't have the same.. weight (?) as bang bang and it always strikes me as slightly boring as it never goes to the next level.

21 Guns - I'm sorry, but still breathing does the job. 

Youngblood - A little too corny. 

Know your enemy  - it fits but meeeh.. 

Ideas about what should be played: 1000 hours, Outlaws, Uptight, Sassafrats Roots, She, X-kid, Nuclear Family, Bouncing off the wall (imagine the moshpit), stay the night, east jesus nowhere, murder city, homecoming, whatsername. 

That's all I can think of and I now feel sad and ashamed for critizing the setlist and the fact that it will take quite a few years before it's time to see them live again. 

This. Nails. My. Feelings. Exactly. 

All the ones's you mentioned as to go can go. King for a Day could easily be replaced by scattered. Hitchin a Ride by Pasalacqua. Rev Rad by Bouncing of the Walls. Youngblood by Christie Road. And Know you Enemy BY ANY OTHER SONG IN THEIR REPERTOIRE. (Murder City, Viva La Gloria,  21CB, and Lobotomy are all great live)

[Q-Man]

I noticed they have cut Ordinary World from the set on the recent dates. Glad 21 Guns is getting some love but I don't understand the thinking behind getting rid of Ordinary World. Also wish they would get rid of some AI songs. Didn't mind it on the first 2 legs of the American tour but now it's getting really old. They play more songs from AI than from the new album. I'd like to see Are We The Waiting cut at least and maybe even Boulevard.

[GreenDayTheory]

5 minutes ago, Q-Man said:

I noticed they have cut Ordinary World from the set on the recent dates. Glad 21 Guns is getting some love but I don't understand the thinking behind getting rid of Ordinary World. Also wish they would get rid if some AI songs. Didn't mind it on the first 2 legs of the American tour but now it's getting really old. They play more songs from AI than from the new album. I'd like to see Are We The Waiting cut at least and maybe even Boulevard.

AI is reaching its other president to curse 

[pacejunkie punk]

35 minutes ago, Q-Man said:

I noticed they have cut Ordinary World from the set on the recent dates. Glad 21 Guns is getting some love but I don't understand the thinking behind getting rid of Ordinary World. Also wish they would get rid of some AI songs. Didn't mind it on the first 2 legs of the American tour but now it's getting really old. They play more songs from AI than from the new album. I'd like to see Are We The Waiting cut at least and maybe even Boulevard.

Can't cut BOBD, he loves the fan interaction with that one and the audience loves it too.  I'm okay with losing OW. It was fine when it was promotion for the movie but it doesn't compare to Good Riddance and we don't need both back to back. There's already enough from RevRad (though I would take TDTD or BOTW over Youngblood at this point).

Billie really seems to rely on that big crowd reaction to feed off of and respond with the kind of energy needed for an arena show. To do that he has to play the songs most people know very well. I remember the debate in Cuatro over playing all those new songs in clubs and how hard that was. The crowd just doesn't react when they don't know a song and that freaks him out. Then they played Basket Case and the place exploded, he said. 

Deep tracks are fine for club dates where the crowd are mostly uberfans but arenas are largely more casual fans who come expecting to hear songs they know so what can you do.

[imXieli]

9 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

Can't cut BOBD, he loves the fan interaction with that one and the audience loves it too.  I'm okay with losing OW. It was fine when it was promotion for the movie but it doesn't compare to Good Riddance and we don't need both back to back. There's already enough from RevRad (though I would take TDTD or BOTW over Youngblood at this point).

Billie really seems to rely on that big crowd reaction to feed off of and respond with the kind of energy needed for an arena show. To do that he has to play the songs most people know very well. I remember the debate in Cuatro over playing all those new songs in clubs and how hard that was. The crowd just doesn't react when they don't know a song and that freaks him out. Then they played Basket Case and the place exploded, he said. 

Deep tracks are fine for club dates where the crowd are mostly uberfans but arenas are largely more casual fans who come expecting to hear songs they know so what can you do.

quality post. changed my perspective on this setlist crap. wouldve been cool if they played the deeper tracks on the club tour but aside from the "deep cuts" they've already played this tour (christie rd, paper lanterns, pasalcqua) there isn't much else they can play that a general casual audience would know (except for brain stew BRING IT BACK GODDAMMIT)

 

side note: i think they should break out "I Fought The Law" again at a show for shits and gigs.. could replace the medley of covers in KFAD

[pacejunkie punk]

32 minutes ago, imXieli said:

side note: i think they should break out "I Fought The Law" again at a show for shits and gigs.. could replace the medley of covers in KFAD

Yes to this or My Generation - a cover everyone knows works as well as a hit song.

[St. Jonny]

Hitchin' A Ride is great live, needs to be shorter so people can't use it as a pee song. I hate additions on old school songs.

[Hermione]

8 minutes ago, St. Jonny said:

Hitchin' A Ride is great live, needs to be shorter so people can't use it as a pee song. I hate additions on old school songs.

I think it works with Hitchin A Ride because it's not just stretching it out for the sake of it, it's teasing and getting the crowd ready before the awesome climax. Just the right song for some cheekiness and making the crowd wait for it in the middle imo. What I hated was when they'd switch to another song instead of playing the end! No point in playing Hitchin A Ride at all if they're going to cut off the best part.

Also they've been making additions like that to songs since the old school days so there's not really anything weird about it  

[pacejunkie punk]

After watching the Troubled Times video on repeat I've gained a new appreciation for the song and it's so current now I really wish they would add this song to the show in place of Youngblood. They could do some amazing lighting with it too the way the song starts quiet and than explodes in the chorus. Now I SO want to hear this live!!!

[MillenniumFan]

I don't know... Not saying I'm a massive fan of Youngblood, but it just has a certain punch and energy when played live that TT simply doesn't have (that's I think why they dropped it). However, what I'd really like them to do is drop one song in favor of Too Dumb To Die and alternate between Youngblood and Bouncing Off The Wall, because they are quite similar in terms of energy and punch...

[kkpojpojpj]

I never listen to Youngblood but I love hearing it live, such a fun song! Although I think it's a real shame they still haven't played all songs from RevRad live. 

[St. Jonny]

It's underrated. Get's too much hate. I see why with some of the lyrics but I love it. 

[Sister of Grace]

1 hour ago, Q.B said:

I never listen to Youngblood but I love hearing it live, such a fun song! 

I totally agree with this! I almost always skipped the song but after hearing it live it just got a whole new sound in my head and now I love the album version too. 

[Caroline Truong]

1 hour ago, St. Jonny said:

It's underrated. Get's too much hate. I see why with some of the lyrics but I love it. 

you know what song is also "underrated" Nightlife!..Get's too much hate..and it same YB...and even live..for some other people!

[St. Jonny]

I think most people like Nightlife, or they are just lying to themselves. 

[pacejunkie punk]

There are some songs I like more than others on the trilogy but there's only one I will skip every time --The Forgotten. Too cheesy and ever since I saw the video with the Twilight clips it's all I can think about when I hear it. Song ruined.