Chin for a Day Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, JoeFrusciante said: Can't tell if sarcastic or not but yeah I'd have that, still super hyped obviously but it's more exciting with variety Pffffft nah, I'd rather have a few mainstays then some absolute gems that are rarely played live any day Your not getting that at a chili peppers concert either. They just play a different set of hits every night. You just get to bed an,hour earlier for a chili peppers concert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, JoeFrusciante said: Gotta take that with a pinch of salt tho, Green Day are an anomaly with a setlist that long As we've seen you're not going to please everyone with this setlist so why not vary it so you have a better chance of pleasing people, particularly those going to multiple dates who'll appreciate the change in setlist most as they're going to be the "die-hard" fans. Surely it'd be more fun for the guys if they alternated a little as well? Idk Yeah, I know. I think they do it this way for the sake of keeping the same standard of performances. It's safer for them to perfect one program. They do the same thing over and over but most people will never find out and will be blown away by how perfect they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marki. Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, JoeFrusciante said: As we've seen you're not going to please everyone with this setlist so why not vary it so you have a better chance of pleasing people, particularly those going to multiple dates who'll appreciate the change in setlist most as they're going to be the "die-hard" fans. Surely it'd be more fun for the guys if they alternated a little as well? Idk I do agree - like I said, it'd be cool if they did that... Personally I'm just not bothered at all that they're not doing it We'll never know what goes on inside the guys' heads, but I'm guessing they feel better with the shows staying as they are. 2 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said: Yeah, I know. I think they do it this way for the sake of keeping the same standard of performances. It's safer for them to perfect one program. They do the same thing over and over but most people will never find out and will be blown away by how perfect they are. I think this might be the case.... They perfected the show so they don't want to change it. I can totally imagine them worrying about one performance being better than the other (as if they needed to worry ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe. Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, Scattered Wreck said: Your not getting that at a chili peppers concert either. They just play a different set of hits every night. You just get to bed an,hour earlier for a chili peppers concert Disagree there, at my show we got songs like Hey and Detroit, neither are really "hits" or anything. I think Green Days longer set further suggests they should alternate a bit more, they have more room. Btw RHCP were just an example, that's how most bands work live 14 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said: Serious! I'm afraid it would lose the sense of novelty and exclusivity that I felt the first time. Like, it would be a much less unique experience. Yeah that's what I meant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 10 hours ago, Jane Lannister said: Why not ditch both and play 6 other songs instead. 2,5 hours is long. The setlist doesn't look like it when you see it written down but it feels like forever in person. (In a good way, I didn't feel bored for a second). I can't imagine what it had to be like to play for another 45 minutes, what they do is incredible. However, I agree that changing it up would make it even better. When GD come to OZ they are playing Melbourne & Sydney with back to back shows. If I get the exact same setlists both nights therefore for the entire 5 shows I will be disappointed. People will say I am lucky to be seeing them so many times but it comes are great sacrifice. It is my only holiday for the year (away from the family) & I am doing it as cheaply as I can - crap flights with no checked baggage etc. They know the uber fan will see them multiple times in OZ - I just hope a little change up will happen - that is all 1 hour ago, Jane Lannister said: I believe their show is that good because it is rehearsed. Practice makes perfect. They could easily "just" play and add deep-cuts, but that's not what the general audience is in for and removing the routines would take away from the show too. What they do isn't just a concert, it's almost a theatrical experience and it makes them special. The thing is they can do it & have done it before with essentially the same core routine but some change up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 31 minutes ago, JoeFrusciante said: Disagree there, at my show we got songs like Hey and Detroit, neither are really "hits" or anything. I think Green Days longer set further suggests they should alternate a bit more, they have more room. Btw RHCP were just an example, that's how most bands work live Actually no, not all bands work that way. All the bands you are comparing too do. I've seen plenty of bands that played the exact same setlist evey night, Steely Dan is notorious for that, and the show was damn amazing every time. Because Green Days set is longer it means they can fit more in?????? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. There is a give and take in every situation, it all depends on what we personally like. The RHCP mix it up and you like that. Green Day gives me an hour more time breathing the same air as they are, and I like that. Honestly, if the chili peppers can mix it up every show then they have the room to do a 2 1/2 hour set. No concert is perfect, I just want to have one hell of a time and I know I get that from a GD show, regardless of what they play. IT is all just personal preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paola17 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Well you all wanted a set change and you got it. Nuclear Family was performed tonight in Montreal. Scattered is still nixed though. Trilogy song for those that wanted it. Is this them beginning to creep back into that material? We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendanL Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Have to say I'm very happy to see NF in the setlist. Seems like a breakthrough, and I've always been a fan of ¡UNO! Shame to see Scattered get dropped but beggars can hardly be choosers at this point. Will be very interesting to see if they make any more changes before my St. Paul show in 10 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PursuitOfEpicness Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Paola17 said: Well you all wanted a set change and you got it. Nuclear Family was performed tonight in Montreal. Scattered is still nixed though. Trilogy song for those that wanted it. Is this them beginning to creep back into that material? We shall see. I'm so ungrateful, bring back Scattered! Nuclear Family? WTF. if you're going to do a trilogy song do Let Yourself Go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paola17 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 20 minutes ago, BrendanL said: Have to say I'm very happy to see NF in the setlist. Seems like a breakthrough, and I've always been a fan of ¡UNO! Shame to see Scattered get dropped but beggars can hardly be choosers at this point. Will be very interesting to see if they make any more changes before my St. Paul show in 10 days. Sadly, I don't have hope that it will stay. Oh, I very much want it to, but it seems like a one off (Troubled Times was on the setlist for two or three shows before they stopped playing it back in Europe). Let's all see what happens from here on out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RougeRogue Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 7 hours ago, JoeFrusciante said: As we've seen you're not going to please everyone with this setlist so why not vary it so you have a better chance of pleasing people, particularly those going to multiple dates who'll appreciate the change in setlist most as they're going to be the "die-hard" fans. Surely it'd be more fun for the guys if they alternated a little as well? Idk Because of the amount of other coordination that has to go with just changing songs. Pyro set ups have to be changed. Banner setups and reveals have to be changed Instrument and tuning schedules have to be changed. Setlists exist for the techs as much as they exist for the band. An occasional switch out could be ok (As we see from above, Nuclear Family getting added and Scattered nixed) but the exact songs need to be planned meticulously and practiced in order to keep a show's flow. I'm sure adding NF wasn't just a spontaneous decision- they probably had a plan in mind a ways prior to the show. Their shows are too big with too much going on to just change shit up whenever. It would be a damn nightmare for the tech crew to deal with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, RougeRogue said: Because of the amount of other coordination that has to go with just changing songs. Pyro set ups have to be changed. Banner setups and reveals have to be changed Instrument and tuning schedules have to be changed. Setlists exist for the techs as much as they exist for the band. An occasional switch out could be ok (As we see from above, Nuclear Family getting added and Scattered nixed) but the exact songs need to be planned meticulously and practiced in order to keep a show's flow. I'm sure adding NF wasn't just a spontaneous decision- they probably had a plan in mind a ways prior to the show. Their shows are too big with too much going on to just change shit up whenever. It would be a damn nightmare for the tech crew to deal with that. 21CB tour had lots of pyro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RougeRogue Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Tinkle said: 21CB tour had lots of pyro Yeah. And...? I recall that the setlist was the same for each leg and not even half as long or as diverse as the one we have now. I had known the setlists prior before my show, then wrote it on my arm and posted it here back and to my memory there was nothing out of the ordinary. (That was 2009 US leg. Mine was in August) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Just now, RougeRogue said: Yeah. And...? I recall that the setlist was the same for each leg and not even half as long or as diverse as the one we have now. I had known the setlists prior before my show, then wrote it on my arm and posted it here back and to my memory there was nothing out of the ordinary. (That was 2009 US leg. Mine was in August) & they could still make changes - not asking for much - a back to back concert in the same city I hope will not get the exact same setlist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RougeRogue Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Tinkle said: & they could still make changes - not asking for much - a back to back concert in the same city I hope will not get the exact same setlist. Have we had that yet? Most dates I've noticed have a day inbetween for travel. But I'm also not studying the tour list beyond the dates around mine. I'm just saying there's a lot of bitching on here without people thinking about the countless people behind the scenes that have jobs to do to. No one is considering what it would mean for them to just change shit up whenever. If you want that, get it on a club/small venue tour when they don't have to coordinate a stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Just now, RougeRogue said: Have we had that yet? Most dates I've noticed have a day inbetween for travel. But I'm also not studying the tour list beyond the dates around mine. I'm just saying there's a lot of bitching on here without people thinking about the countless people behind the scenes that have jobs to do to. No one is considering what it would mean for them to just change shit up whenever. If you want that, get it on a club/small venue tour when they don't have to coordinate a stadium. Im talking about Australia - I don't care about anybody else - just me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JellyTime Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I hope it means they're ready to play Trilogy songs live! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillenniumFan Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I'm just happy there's a switch up, look, I think we all have our personal preferences and we're never going to agree on a perfect setlist. What's really important in my opinion, is that their performance is good, their enthusiasm is there, etc. and they've shown that to be the case on this tour. And additionally, I think it's cool when every show is slightly unique in its own way. Now, this doesn't even require a setlist change, necessarily, however, a few songs switched, is a cool thing. Here's the song for those who haven't seen it yet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marki. Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 NF sounds sooo great! I'm curious to see if it'll be just a one off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe. Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 3 hours ago, RougeRogue said: Because of the amount of other coordination that has to go with just changing songs. Pyro set ups have to be changed. Banner setups and reveals have to be changed Instrument and tuning schedules have to be changed. Setlists exist for the techs as much as they exist for the band. An occasional switch out could be ok (As we see from above, Nuclear Family getting added and Scattered nixed) but the exact songs need to be planned meticulously and practiced in order to keep a show's flow. I'm sure adding NF wasn't just a spontaneous decision- they probably had a plan in mind a ways prior to the show. Their shows are too big with too much going on to just change shit up whenever. It would be a damn nightmare for the tech crew to deal with that. Could just play a song with no pyro… tunings not an issue the band themselves can do it onstage whilst billie talks or the tech can get another guitar out, it's either going to be in E or E Flat i don't mean change it mid set I mean when writing the setlist to give to the tech crew or whatever you have a different song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meliciraptor Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 4 hours ago, MilleniumFan said: I'm just happy there's a switch up, look, I think we all have our personal preferences and we're never going to agree on a perfect setlist. What's really important in my opinion, is that their performance is good, their enthusiasm is there, etc. and they've shown that to be the case on this tour. And additionally, I think it's cool when every show is slightly unique in its own way. Now, this doesn't even require a setlist change, necessarily, however, a few songs switched, is a cool thing. Here's the song for those who haven't seen it yet: OMG, please let that be a permanent switch (or at least let it come back at my show, haha)! I love Nuclear Family and haven't seen it performed live yet. Thanks for the video! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Jeff is beginning to crack...turns out he's not such a fan of the repetitive setlist either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alienlifeform Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 14 hours ago, Scattered Wreck said: Then my advice to you is don't go to the show. It's really that hard to understand that I'm just suggesting some improvement to their set? 90% of the 28 songs they are playing every night are among the my favorites GD songs, it's a spetacular set, but I'm just trying to say that it could be a lot better with the elemento of surprise. And no, I will not miss the opportunity to see them live, that's not the point in disucssion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 15 hours ago, Jane Lannister said: I believe their show is that good because it is rehearsed. Practice makes perfect. They could easily "just" play and add deep-cuts, but that's not what the general audience is in for and removing the routines would take away from the show too. What they do isn't just a concert, it's almost a theatrical experience and it makes them special. So much this. It's not like they're trying to play as many different songs as they can and failing. They're making a choice as artists and performers to put together their show a certain way. And at the end of the day when you go to see them it's mind-blowingly entertaining so they must be doing something right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, Alf said: It's really that hard to understand that I'm just suggesting some improvement to their set? 90% of the 28 songs they are playing every night are among the my favorites GD songs, it's a spetacular set, but I'm just trying to say that it could be a lot better with the elemento of surprise. And no, I will not miss the opportunity to see them live, that's not the point in disucssion Wasting your time here. It's like attending a Trump rally and saying maybe your guy could tone down the rhetoric a bit for us Mexican folk. 90% of the people on this site refuse point blank to ever see anything wrong with anything to do with any aspect of the band, their music, performance or behaviour. Even suggesting it would be kinda nice to hear a different song now and again results in the reaction that people think you shouldn't go to the shows You really are wasting your time here. I gave up trying to be serious some time ago in this topic because literally nobody wants to hear it. Oh but I have no doubt they're bored to shit of the same setlist too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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