Chin for a Day Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 9 minutes ago, Asik said: Not really. Basket case is palm muted which is hard. Minority consist of 3-4 chords. Basket case 4-5. Minority is way easier Disagree 100%. Yes Basket Case has palm muting, but Minority has picking and open chords and power chords. Basket case is just power chords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Train27 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I love the American Idiot solo, and thats all I have to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 6 hours ago, Matt3BJ said: I truly miss when Green Day would take requests during at least part of the show, and the show wasn't as formulaic. While they are one of the very best live bands on the planet-I miss the thril of truly not knowing what what was next and I feel that was an energy they would feed off. When was that though? There might have been individual shows/smaller shows/parts of some tours where they've taken requests or mixed up the setlist but that's never been a standard thing. If you pick a tour from Dookie onwards (often before that as well but especially after they started playing big venues) and compare the setlists they're always very similar and formulaic. I guess maybe now with the internet it's easier to be aware of setlists not changing, and I would agree that shows were more unpredictable in terms of random antics happening, but the songs themselves staying the same from show to show isn't new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asik Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 4 hours ago, Scattered Wreck said: Disagree 100%. Yes Basket Case has palm muting, but Minority has picking and open chords and power chords. Basket case is just power chords. Uhm open chords are what beginners usually start from. C, g and f are hard? Hell no. Palm muting is way harder. Dont confuse opinion with facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 32 minutes ago, Asik said: Uhm open chords are what beginners usually start from. C, g and f are hard? Hell no. Palm muting is way harder. Dont confuse opinion with facts. Yes beginners do start with open chords, but power chords are alot easier than open chords. And if you actually go back, and read what I said I didn't say Minority was hard, just hard in a relative sense. I find it much easier to play a power chord than to switch between picking, open chords and power chords. FACT: It is alot easier to do the same thing over and over again than it is to switch between different things. And just because YOU find palm muting hard doesn't mean everyone does. Plus, the entire song is not palm muted, only portions of it. There are portions that are just straight power chords (as is Minority). We can agree to disagree. I find Minority much harder because I find it more difficult to switch between different types of playing than playing the same power chords over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Marki. Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 ^ Go Jeff. I wish I could like that more than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iScottie Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 He has a point. The setlist is beyond stale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakke Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I'm bringing my Say Goodbye and Outlaws signs tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 24 minutes ago, iScottie said: He has a point. The setlist is beyond stale. Go iScottie I wish I could like this more than once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 2 hours ago, desertrose said: I feel like the response is pretty irrelevant to be honest. Maintaining energy for 2.5hours when you can switch Christie Road, 2000 LYA and Scattered up easily each night isn't going to effect energy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 25 minutes ago, Justin said: I feel like the response is pretty irrelevant to be honest. Maintaining energy for 2.5hours when you can switch Christie Road, 2000 LYA and Scattered up easily each night isn't going to effect energy Maybe it isn't that easy. Unless you are out there doing it with them you really don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 30 minutes ago, Scattered Wreck said: Maybe it isn't that easy. Unless you are out there doing it with them you really don't know. Because it's difficult to switch out 2000LYA with Pasalacqua/ Paper Lanterns/ Razorbacks/ Brat/ Holden Caulfield/ Coming Clean// At The Library/ Armatage Shanks/ Only of you/ disappearing boy/ Stuart and the Ave/ one of my lies/ judges daughter/ chump....... Each of those songs were played relatively recently and have the same setup.... it's many things but difficult isn't one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jonny Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 He was being sarcastic and obviously that guy has NO say on what they play It's tough playing that long each show, you would think Billie and Mike would want to change up songs more often, and even sometimes not do mandatory songs like Boulevard. Sounds crazy but, they've dropped Minority and When I Come Around before. No Christie Road tonight, super lame track drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Maintaining energy for 2.5 hours live being tough has absolutely nothing to do with them playing essentially the same setlist for years. It's tough for any band but they don't play Know Your Enemy every night as a result! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 20 minutes ago, Justin said: Because it's difficult to switch out 2000LYA with Pasalacqua/ Paper Lanterns/ Razorbacks/ Brat/ Holden Caulfield/ Coming Clean// At The Library/ Armatage Shanks/ Only of you/ disappearing boy/ Stuart and the Ave/ one of my lies/ judges daughter/ chump....... Each of those songs were played relatively recently and have the same setup.... it's many things but difficult isn't one of them. Unless you are in that stage with them and at practice with them you have no idea what it is,like to change up songs. If you don't like the setlist don't go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 15 minutes ago, Scattered Wreck said: Unless you are in that stage with them and at practice with them you have no idea what it is,like to change up songs. If you don't like the setlist don't go I'm talking about even on the setlists they have "audible" just before Christie Road but aren't playing one. It's flat out playing it safe and comfortable knowing they'll get a great response each song but without taking a risk of what else will go down great. Ive been to enough Green Day shows over the last 12 years to see them change things up that I think it's a fair discussion to talk about how they aren't changing things up anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jonny Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 True blue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 9 hours ago, Scattered Wreck said: Unless you are in that stage with them and at practice with them you have no idea what it is,like to change up songs. If you don't like the setlist don't go Yeah like, they've carefully crafted this show over the years with songs chosen to keep the flow just right and keep the crowd's attention and the energy levels high with all kinds of stuff other than just playing the songs built into it. Some bands just get up and play through songs so it's easy to play them in a different order or play different ones but a Green Day show is so much more than that. They give you the best live experience ever so even if I might like to hear one song or another or think some things could be done differently sometimes I can pretty much trust that they know what they're doing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 They played Troubled Times tonight and I know beyond a shadow of a doubt it's because I tweeted Matika and told him to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jonny Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Yeah, live debut in Amsterdam! Who knows if it will stick around or not, we'll have to wait and see. No Christie Road again, this makes me quite sad. It's Kerplunk!'s 25th anniversary, the two tracks were good! Who Wrote Holden Caulfield or Private Ale would be just as good though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muscles90 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 The perfect one for me Bouncing Off The Walls Bang Bang Revolution Radio Know Your Enemy Holiday Letterbomb Boulevard Of Broken Dreams Young Blood Christie Road Armatage Shanks Brat Reject Worry Rock Longview Basket Case She Wehn I Come Around Are We The Waiting / St Jimmy Forever Now Somewhere Now Minority American Idiot Jesus Of Suburbia Orindary World Good Riddance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillenniumFan Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Mine would be (and it's a long one) Bouncing of the Walls or Somewhere Now Bang Bang Revolution Radio Know Your Enemy Holiday Letterbomb Boulevard of Broken Dreams Young Blood or Troubled Times Christie Road 2000 Light Years Away Armatage Shanks Brain Stew Nice Guys Finish Last Hitchin' A Ride Redundant J.A.R Welcome to Paradise Longview When I Come Around Basket Case She Are We The Waiting St. Jimmy Homecoming (King for A Day) I'm not certain though Minority Still Breathing Forever Now 1. Encore American Idiot Jesus of Suburbia 2. Encore Ordinary World Wake me Up When September Ends Good Riddance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorryRock02 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I really'd love the kind of acoustic encore of 21stCB Tour....this was just amazing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatsername Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 12 hours ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: They played Troubled Times tonight and I know beyond a shadow of a doubt it's because I tweeted Matika and told him to Sorry to disappoint you, but I think it was because of my Troubled-Times-sign at the Cologne show I'm sure their conversation before the Amsterdam gig went like this: Billie: Hey guys, remember that pretty girl yesterday in Cologne in the second row with that Troubled Times-sign? Mike&Tré: Hell, yeah! Billie: Let's play that shit tonight, all right? Mike&Tré: All right! I'm absolutely sure that's what it was. I can live with this theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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