Hermione Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 9 minutes ago, Eric said: Sucks to be you, the song is great :/ If anyone was actually trying to spoil the enjoyment of the song for people who like it, deride people who like it or prevent discussion of it (like some haters of the trilogy in the past ) I'd get why you were bothered. But they're really just explaining their opinion of the song. Not everyone has to like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greendepent Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I think that the singles right now can mean two things: - This will be a very solid record overall - This is the better that we'll get from For the title track, solo could be a lot more better. Lyrics are ok, nothing to say about it. My hopes are up yet. Just waiting hearing the tracks live soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Bras Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 22 minutes ago, Libertine Angel said: None of that is even suggested in the lyrics though, that's what makes it generic, if you're going to say "we should all stand up and revolt but you fill in the blanks as to why" it just comes across as writing a revolution song for the sake of it instead of doing it for any particular reason, and political punk without drive is always going to fall flat. But we know it since that's what the album is about, the bands has stated it several times on interviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Just now, Stefano Bras said: But we know it since that's what the album is about, the bands has stated it several times on interviews. The fact that they've said what they're thinking about outside the song doesn't change the fact that the song itself gives no indication of it. If your lyrics are telling us to go and do something they also have to tell us why, otherwise no matter what you say elsewhere the lyrics themselves won't have a strong enough message to be anything other than hollow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlAuerE12thSt Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 To me After the second "single" it still feels like the natural musically evolution of the band. its kinda hard to express but for me it sounds like logical 2016 green day music the sonical theme of the so far 2 songs we've heard really grows on me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, KarlAuerE12thSt said: To me After the second "single" it still feels like the natural musically evolution of the band. its kinda hard to express but for me it sounds like logical 2016 green day music the sonical theme of the so far 2 songs we've heard really grows on me I just don't get how a Green Day site doesn't enjoy a Green Day sounding record lol, very strict standards of the Punk Rock fan in 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Just now, Eric said: I just don't get how a Green Day site doesn't enjoy a Green Day sounding record lol, very strict standards of the Punk Rock fan in 2016 Because being a Green Day fan doesn't mean loving everything they do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, Libertine Angel said: Because being a Green Day fan doesn't mean loving everything they do? EDIT* Ok i did say that, but The biggest part is to waste an entire day and going on a second day on something you do not like is just funny to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakke Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Eric said: I just don't get how a Green Day site doesn't enjoy a Green Day sounding record lol, very strict standards of the Punk Rock fan in 2016 Well, we didn't enjoy Dos! too thoroughly (in particular Nightlife and Lady Cobra). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8ball Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 On first listen I didn't think it was as good as Bang Bang, but it's a grower... Its fucking top quality - catchy chorus that will guarantee it lots of air play. At first I thought it would've been suited to the trilogy but then smacked myself in the face and stopped over analysing it. It's strong, catchy and will be a great song to go mental to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, 8ball said: On first listen I didn't think it was as good as Bang Bang, but it's a grower... Its fucking top quality - catchy chorus that will guarantee it lots of air play. At first I thought it would've been suited to the trilogy but then smacked myself in the face and stopped over analysing it. It's strong, catchy and will be a great song to go mental to live. See, perfect example of someone who stop over analyzing it and likes it a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakke Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 It's lyrically not as strong as Bang Bang, but I never really got a trilogy vibe from it. 99 Rev, which resembles it most thematically, is in my opinion far weaker, particularly the chorus, and blander. I think Say Goodbye will be 'the' political song of RevRad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallasthemenace Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 im on antibiotics now because of that infectious chorus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakke Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Just now, dallasthemenace said: im on antibiotics now because of that infectious chorus. The chorus might be resistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 7 minutes ago, Eric said: EDIT* Ok i did say that, but The biggest part is to waste an entire day and going on a second day on something you do not like is just funny to me. I don't think discussion is a waste if it's got thought put into it, and I don't think it's overanalysing to have criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second favourite son Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 Just now, Dakke said: Well, we didn't enjoy Dos! too thoroughly (in particular Nightlife and Lady Cobra). Speak for yourself! 2 minutes ago, Libertine Angel said: Because being a Green Day fan doesn't mean loving everything they do? This. I actually like this song. But even if I didn't, I'd still love the majority of what Green Day has put out. From what I've read, it isn't that people think this song is a pile of crap - they just think it could be (a lot) better. I like revolution radio, I can't bear last night on Earth. Others are probably the complete opposite. There are no criteria for a 'true fan'. Some fans like almost everything, some are more critical. Both are still fans. The function of this thread, and GDC as a whole, is to talk about things and explore differences in opinions, not just to agree blindly wih each other. That way we can really look at new things in the music and experience and enjoy it even more fully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 12 minutes ago, Second favourite son said: Speak for yourself! This. I actually like this song. But even if I didn't, I'd still love the majority of what Green Day has put out. From what I've read, it isn't that people think this song is a pile of crap - they just think it could be (a lot) better. I like revolution radio, I can't bear last night on Earth. Others are probably the complete opposite. There are no criteria for a 'true fan'. Some fans like almost everything, some are more critical. Both are still fans. The function of this thread, and GDC as a whole, is to talk about things and explore differences in opinions, not just to agree blindly wih each other. That way we can really look at new things in the music and experience and enjoy it even more fully. People could experience new things in music if they want to enjoy, there is Rap music thread (which should just be dedicated to every other genre not rap tbh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe. Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I like it a lot, the chorus is great. The song is much poppier than bang bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amberwhite Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 50 minutes ago, dallasthemenace said: im on antibiotics now because of that infectious chorus. I wish I could like this more than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second favourite son Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 39 minutes ago, Eric said: People could experience new things in music if they want to enjoy, there is Rap music thread (which should just be dedicated to every other genre not rap tbh) I voyage in there occasionally Generally not my cup of tea, but I did like that song chance did on good morning America. I just played Revolution Radio for my mum, her opinion: 'It's okay'. She said she'd probably like it more after a few listens, and that she could hear bits that sounded like some of their other songs. She didn't like the rhythm of the guitar bits at the end of the choruses. I've only just listened to the guitar solo properly for the first time, and now I understand why @Steven Seagull is raving about it so much - I really like it. Also, does anyone else think it sounds a bit like 'This is how I disappear' by MCR? I'm hearing a lot of similarity in the intro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayish Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 1 hour ago, CrimsonArk said: Yeah, I'm still looking forward to it, but neither of the songs released thus far feel like they measure up to the band's best. Neither are Green Day classics I feel. At this point in the band's career, I'm done expecting "classics". I just wish they gave up the social commentary shtick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alienlifeform Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 The intro remind me of this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semi-automatic lonely boy Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 2 hours ago, Stefano Bras said: I think is tacit the idea of what he wants to change is the fuck up things that are happening in the world: Police brutallity, mass murders, war, oppression, corrupt politics and governments, sensationalist media etc... or you know the fucked up things that happen, like people forming mass movements that target minorities and bring self proclaimed leaders to power? where did i heard that before? you all say the world is to complicated and it's hard to get specific within the lyrics. i beg to differ. you NEED to get specific in this complicated situation. you don't need a solution, but you need to name whats wrong OR try to aritstically encapsulate a situation/ a set of mind. the song does neither, i just offers plattitudes. and that is a problem. a trump supporter or right wing conspiracy nut could identify with those lyrics and not due to missinterpretation, but rightly so. it doesn't offer anything inspiring, it doesn't offer commentary, it's not describing anything specific. massmovements are dangerous, especially if there is nothing specific to the cause. if billie didn't talk about BLM nobody would think this is about the movement. rob taxpayer from the awesome band you all nee to check out, THE TAXPAYERS, describes the issue with those kind of "political songs" in an interview with diyngscene.com: "I do think that politics can become watered down and meaningless if it is 100% vitriolic all the time. Most folks don’t give a shit about some person screaming about how the government sucks, especially if that’s all that person ever does, and if the extent of their criticism never reaches beyond “fuck all authority”. The world and it’s problems are complicated, and it takes serious, nuanced thinking to figure them out. That said, we did have a few of those types of songs that we cut from this album. And we have definitely written some of those in the past. Screaming into a microphone can be therapeutic and help you blow off steam, but it can become like semantic saturation – if you do it too much, it ceases to have meaning." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Bras Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, Semi-automatic lonely boy said: or you know the fucked up things that happen, like people forming mass movements that target minorities and bring self proclaimed leaders to power? where did i heard that before? you all say the world is to complicated and it's hard to get specific within the lyrics. i beg to differ. you NEED to get specific in this complicated situation. you don't need a solution, but you need to name whats wrong OR try to aritstically encapsulate a situation/ a set of mind. the song does neither, i just offers plattitudes. and that is a problem. a trump supporter or right wing conspiracy nut could identify with those lyrics and not due to missinterpretation, but rightly so. it doesn't offer anything inspiring, it doesn't offer commentary, it's not describing anything specific. massmovements are dangerous, especially if there is nothing specific to the cause. if billie didn't talk about BLM nobody would think this is about the movement. rob taxpayer from the awesome band you all nee to check out, THE TAXPAYERS, describes the issue with those kind of "political songs" in an interview with diyngscene.com: "I do think that politics can become watered down and meaningless if it is 100% vitriolic all the time. Most folks don’t give a shit about some person screaming about how the government sucks, especially if that’s all that person ever does, and if the extent of their criticism never reaches beyond “fuck all authority”. The world and it’s problems are complicated, and it takes serious, nuanced thinking to figure them out. That said, we did have a few of those types of songs that we cut from this album. And we have definitely written some of those in the past. Screaming into a microphone can be therapeutic and help you blow off steam, but it can become like semantic saturation – if you do it too much, it ceases to have meaning." I never said it's hard to get specific within the lyrics of this song, I just think that's not the purpose of it, mind you: Quote I think the song is supposed to be about revolting against something but it doesn't want to be specific about it or tell you a clear idea like Bang Bang. The song let's you, the listener, decide what this "revolution" is about and basically sets the tone for the album's theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Eric said: I just don't get how a Green Day site doesn't enjoy a Green Day sounding record lol, very strict standards of the Punk Rock fan in 2016 Almost everyone here loves the song and is singing its praises though? And even the people who don't like it as much are being very chill about it. You're being more negative than anyone else in this thread at the moment, a few people not liking the song isn't stopping the rest of us from celebrating our love for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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