That Dude Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 37 minutes ago, Luli said: It's not explicit enough. It's just "let's get mad" "it's cool to use the word revolution". The violence is very important but if it has more content, it's my opinion of course, it has more impact. I just don't think they seem mad/sad/violent enough. I need more deep feelings! haha Maybe hearing or see it performed live will make a big difference. Songs tend to have a lot more bite live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonArk Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 13 minutes ago, Scattered Wreck said: Do you ever have anything substantial to add to a conversation? i find the lyrics are a surface level attempt at a rallying cry. There's no subtleties or nuances utilized when discussing such potentially inflammatory topics. With no unique observations or perspectives on said subject, it creates a sense of hollowness that at times renders the song's direction as pointless or even generic. It makes it appear as if as little thought as possible was utilized during the writing process of the song, or that the song's subject matter was boiled down to a point that rendered it as palatable as it could possibly be to a mainstream audience, which kind of feels counterproductive to a song with the title of "Revolution Radio". I always felt Billie thrived at writing songs that were more personal than political. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luli Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Libertine Angel said: They don't really have anything specific to say though, there's all this talk of standing up and revolution but it doesn't seem to have any real drive to it, any true passion. The world is fucked in general chaos, but you can't feel that lyrically, there's no real sense of the desperate anger you'd expect from a revolution in the midst of chaos. It's a song for revolution, but it's a tame and watered-down revolution. I think it says something that I didn't even realise it was about BLM until this post, the lyrics are such generic revolution fare I couldn't tell. That's exactly how I feel about them! Thank you. Songs are good to make people more sensitive about certain subjects, and even though I do like this song and it's quite catchy, to get people concerned about anything you have to hit them right in the feels, and this song does not make it, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, Scattered Wreck said: Again, I totally disagree. What were you really expecting him to do, tell people to march in the streets, go on hunger strikes etc., the first step to stopping something is understanding it. Then he is asking people to get concerned about it. It is the same thing he did in AI, he tried to get people concerned. If anything AI is less explicit, AI is just a rallying cry about the general state of the country. Revolution Radio is bringing attention to BLM and again, the shit we see on the news every day. But like I said, this is so generic I didn't even realise it was about any specific issue. It feels like it's trying to sound revolutionary but its heart isn't in it, and it won't get other people concerned if it doesn't seem particularly concerned itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I criticized the lyrics earlier. But after seeing the lyrics video, GDA got some of the lyrics wrong and real lyrics make more sense. "Legalize the truth" is way better than "we call lies the truth". There are some other ones too. Get it together GDA. Is this going to be a single or is this one just promotional? Not that it matters, if it charts it charts, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonArk Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 17 minutes ago, Scattered Wreck said: I have to totally disagree. I think it perfectly captures the Black Lives Matter movement. That is a very serious subject here and like Bang Bang, I think he set teh tone of waht is going on. Of course he is only saying "let's get mad", which is also what he said in American Idiot. He can't resolve the issue that Black Lives Matter was formed for, but he can bring attention to it. That is the exact purpose of the song. If he can bring attention to issues, more people will get concerned with it and maybe it can change. I have to ask, are you actually a member of the Black Lives Matter movement, heavily invested in some way, or are you just a casual observer? Are you yourself black? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malleus Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I find it hard to believe that anybody can rationally say these lyrics are anything other than generic, blanket ass words that have something to do with revolting just for that sake. They are easily the lamest part of the song, and a lot less intense or interesting than Bang Bang was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, CrimsonArk said: Apparently no more so than about 95% of this board, but if you want something substantial, then okay. The lyrics are a surface level attempt at a rallying cry. There's no subtleties or nuances utilized when discussing such potentially inflammatory topics. With no unique observations or perspectives on said subject, it creates a sense of hollowness that at times renders the song's direction as pointless or even generic. It makes it appear as if as little thought as possible was utilized during the writing process of the song, or that the song's subject matter was boiled down to a point that rendered it as palatable as it could possibly be to a mainstream audience, which kind of feels counterproductive to a song with the title of "Revolution Radio". Maybe if you stopped trying to be brash and trendy you would see that there are plenty of intelligent conversation to be had on this forum because people would be more willing to engage you in that conversation. No one wants to have a conversation with someone they continually feel they need to fight. Why does a rallying cry need to be subtle? Wouldn't it make more sense to reach the masses if it wasn't? Why does it need to bring a unique perspective? Having a unique perspective does not mean that it is not hollow, nor does not having a unique perspective mean that it is hollow. Often, it can rally a subject matter if someone just states what most people are already thinking. It gives people comfort and makes them more likely to take a stand if they know that someone they admire feels the same way they do. Also, if you want people to rally about a subject, you need to make as many as possible aware of it. Therefore, you want to make it as mainstream as possible to reach the largest audience. So I disagree that that is counterproductive to a song like Revolution Radio, I will argue that it is the purpose. Now whether Billie accomplished that in these lyrics is subjective. I think he did, you did not. That is perfectly fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkangel Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Thank God I just enjoy music and don't over-analyze every part of the song like some people here. Both songs are really good. Can't wait to hear the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I don't think lyrics have to be totally specific to have worth. Bang Bang gets right at an issue while Revolution Radio is more general but I think the message (to take notice of the mess that's happening in the world and to want to make sense of it) is still pretty clear, doesn't seem much less specific than American Idiot. They didn't sign up to promote a particular cause with this album, they're just expressing their own feelings/perspective, so whether it's the most helpful possible message being given or not is neither here nor there really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 10 minutes ago, CrimsonArk said: I have to ask, are you actually a member of the Black Lives Matter movement, heavily invested in some way, or are you just a casual observer? Are you yourself black? I am not black, but not being black does not mean you are not invested in movement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanity Loan Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 13 minutes ago, thatdude03 said: I criticized the lyrics earlier. But after seeing the lyrics video, GDA got some of the lyrics wrong and real lyrics make more sense. "Legalize the truth" is way better than "we call lies the truth". There are some other ones too. Get it together GDA. Is this going to be a single or is this one just promotional? Not that it matters, if it charts it charts, right? Geez, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Hoe Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Downloaded it today and I have to say I really really love it and it's very catchy altough I have to think about the lyrics a bit, they're not very clear to me yet. I'm a LITTLE BIT disappointed by how clear Billie's voice sounds, it reminded me a lot of how it sounded during the trilogy. I like his voice dirty and not much tampered with All in all an awesome song though and I can't wait for the rest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, punkangel said: Thank God I just enjoy music and don't over-analyze every part of the song like some people here. Both songs are really good. Can't wait to hear the album. It's fun! Looking at the lyrics in more detail and hearing different opinions on them can make the song even more enjoyable. As long as people can be civil to each other and not take a discussion about a song personally, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Seagull Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 15 minutes ago, Malleus said: I find it hard to believe that anybody can rationally say these lyrics are anything other than generic, blanket ass words that have something to do with revolting just for that sake. They are easily the lamest part of the song, and a lot less intense or interesting than Bang Bang was LOL only that Bang Bang lyrics made no fucking sense at all. This song is so much better in every way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, Hermione said: I don't think lyrics have to be totally specific to have worth. Bang Bang gets right at an issue while Revolution Radio is more general but I think the message (to take notice of the mess that's happening in the world and to want to make sense of it) is still pretty clear, doesn't seem much less specific than American Idiot. They didn't sign up to promote a particular cause with this album, they're just expressing their own feelings/perspective, so whether it's the most helpful possible message being given or not is neither here nor there really. Honestly I didn't get that message at all though, nor did I really get it as their own feelings or perspective, it's just such a bland, cliché revolution call there's no hallmarks of...well, anything really. Just now, Steven Seagull said: LOL only that Bang Bang lyrics made no fucking sense at all. This song is so much better in any way. Bang Bang makes sense and leaves the listener with no doubts about exactly what it's about, this is just "woo...revolution...yeah..." with no real focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 9 minutes ago, Hermione said: I don't think lyrics have to be totally specific to have worth. Bang Bang gets right at an issue while Revolution Radio is more general but I think the message (to take notice of the mess that's happening in the world and to want to make sense of it) is still pretty clear, doesn't seem much less specific than American Idiot. They didn't sign up to promote a particular cause with this album, they're just expressing their own feelings/perspective, so whether it's the most helpful possible message being given or not is neither here nor there really. I totally agree. I'd absolutely put RevRad on par with American Idiot in a lot of ways, especially lyrically. This morning I had the pleasure of hearing Bang Bang and RevRad back-to-back for the first time. I got chills. Listening to them one after the other gives a great sense of the kind of album this will be, and I'm so pumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malleus Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 10 minutes ago, Steven Seagull said: LOL only that Bang Bang lyrics made no fucking sense at all. This song is so much better in every way. I am not saying they are absolutely clear and perfect, but if you believe that then you need to read them again I think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 8 minutes ago, Matt. said: Geez, sorry. It's going to take time to rebuild but I'm not considering legal action, even though GDA has basically ruined the song for me. Billie's singing "legalize" and I'm over here looking like a chump singing "we call lies". Haha. It is hard to understand, and lots of people are complaining about that in BANG BANG and this song but I would say a majority of rock songs are that way if you don't take some initiative and read the lyrics somewhere. I like BANG BANG. I like Revolution Radio. I do hope that this album will pump the breaks a bit before we come to its conclusion at the beautiful "Ordinary World". At least one more slow song in the blaze of new songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakabanas Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 3 hours ago, Second favourite son said: I can't wait to listen to this in the car. I can't wait to listen to this song drunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan86 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 40 minutes ago, Matt. said: Geez, sorry. Not good enough. GDA has set a high standard that it must constantly live up to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan86 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 4 hours ago, Second favourite son said: I can't wait to listen to this in the car. 17 minutes ago, Bakabanas said: I can't wait to listen to this song drunk Don't hangout with each other. It's not safe to be drunk in a car. Bang Bang. Sorry! I'll leave now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second favourite son Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 Just now, Alan86 said: Don't hangout with each other. It's not safe to be drunk in a car. Bang Bang. Nah it's fine I'll be the designated driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 55 minutes ago, Hermione said: I don't think lyrics have to be totally specific to have worth. Bang Bang gets right at an issue while Revolution Radio is more general but I think the message (to take notice of the mess that's happening in the world and to want to make sense of it) is still pretty clear, doesn't seem much less specific than American Idiot. They didn't sign up to promote a particular cause with this album, they're just expressing their own feelings/perspective, so whether it's the most helpful possible message being given or not is neither here nor there really. If they're too specific it limits the song. Billie Joe may have written it about certain events, but a truly great song could take on new meaning for each set of ears hearing it. There might be a couple out there falling in love listening to this song. Someone losing a friend, someone overcoming great odds. And for each one of them, the song will mean something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siddharth_471 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 The more I listen (even checking the lyric video) I feel the production is actually okay. So I'll say this song is even on par with Bang Bang and I love it! And what's wrong with 'call-back' vocals and the lyrics? I think they are the best parts. The backing vocals are most recognizable in Bang Bang & RevRad and lyrics are definitely thoughtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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