Sanity Loan Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 14 minutes ago, JJ1964 said: Mainstream is simply airplay and Top rock songs is airplay, sales and surveys. So the fact that it is #1 in airplay, but #16 in top rock songs means that the sales numbers are low and the survey results are low. That doesn't sound good. It shouldn't be surprising that sales numbers are low. Just now, sampy said: If the song is number one on airplay list, it's going to effect positively on sales and streamings. I think that sales aren't so reliable source on this day. Not many people buy specific songs separately. If it's gaining more airplay, more people is going to discover it via streaming services. this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Just now, sampy said: If the song is number one on airplay list, it's going to effect positively on sales and streamings. I think that sales aren't so reliable source on this day. Not many people buy specific songs separately. If it's gaining more airplay, more people is going to discover it via streaming services. Well, the charts say differently. The charts say it is getting the airplay, but that airplay is not turning into sales or streaming activity. It could be that the charts do not coincide. However, it was #8 on Top rock songs last week and dropped to #16. So, the airplay has increased but the sales have decreased. 2 minutes ago, Matt. said: It shouldn't be surprising that sales numbers are low. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanity Loan Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 18 minutes ago, JJ1964 said: Why? Because the number of people that are purchasing individual albums or songs is declining drastically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Just now, Matt. said: Because the number of people that are purchasing individual albums or songs is declining drastically. Ok I do agree with that. But why would the song that is getting the most airplay have 15 songs that have less airplay but more sales? Unless, do album sales also count for individual song sales as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James11693 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Anyone find it weird that Bang Bang really hasn't been promoted? Like after the day it was released, the band hasn't really mentioned it much besides with hash tags in photos. Normally bands would have posted a bunch of times to check out their new song. Regardless, I'm glad it's not doing terrible considering the promotion has been weak 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeJennsitized Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 1 minute ago, James11693 said: Anyone find it weird that Bang Bang really hasn't been promoted? Like after the day it was released, the band hasn't really mentioned it much besides with hash tags in photos. Normally bands would have posted a bunch of times to check out their new song. Regardless, I'm glad it's not doing terrible considering the promotion has been weak I think it'll be pushed more when the video comes out. Though I see for that promo ad they've used the lyric video! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, James11693 said: Anyone find it weird that Bang Bang really hasn't been promoted? Like after the day it was released, the band hasn't really mentioned it much besides with hash tags in photos. Normally bands would have posted a bunch of times to check out their new song. Regardless, I'm glad it's not doing terrible considering the promotion has been weak I find it very strange as well. I actually work in marketing and the only thing i can think of is that they have a limited or varying budget. Other than that, I've got nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedundantIdiot Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I keep thinking that more promotion will happen closer to the albums release..... but of course this begs the question: why have such a big gap between the singles release and the albums release? Apart from the odd selfie on Billies Instagram account (i.e on the set of Bang Bang's video) and the twitter ''takeover'' in which they goofed around for two hours, things seem to have gone a bit flat. Even the bands official twitter and Instagram accounts have hardly posted anything. This photo basically sums up my mood as I wait for something exciting to happen: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 This is Green Day. It's not about a lack of budget, they're one of the biggest rock bands of all time and they're on Warner. Warner sits on money. The song is doing really great even without a huge promotion. It'll come when the release date gets closer. Chill out! 2 hours ago, JJ1964 said: Ok I do agree with that. But why would the song that is getting the most airplay have 15 songs that have less airplay but more sales? Unless, do album sales also count for individual song sales as well? There can be a song which has released months ago, but it's so popular that it keeps on selling. Still, because it's not the newest hit, radio won't play it so often anymore, so it isn't high on airplay charts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 38 minutes ago, sampy said: This is Green Day. It's not about a lack of budget, they're one of the biggest rock bands of all time and they're on Warner. Warner sits on money. The song is doing really great even without a huge promotion. It'll come when the release date gets closer. Chill out! There can be a song which has released months ago, but it's so popular that it keeps on selling. Still, because it's not the newest hit, radio won't play it so often anymore, so it isn't high on airplay charts. Just because they are Green Day does not mean they have a huge budget. Warner does sit on money, it also doesn't mean they are distributing they way you want it too. The song is doing very well, but not over the top well. WE have been having a conversation, please don't tell me to chill out, it is rude. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semi-automatic lonely boy Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 this thread is painfull to read. music isn't a competition. how do sales affect you guys? are you afraid green day will starve? get a grip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, Semi-automatic lonely boy said: this thread is painfull to read. music isn't a competition. how do sales affect you guys? are you afraid green day will starve? get a grip. They want to see Rock music back on top! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chin for a Day Posted August 30, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, Semi-automatic lonely boy said: this thread is painfull to read. music isn't a competition. how do sales affect you guys? are you afraid green day will starve? get a grip. Actually music very much is a competition. Sales don't directly affect us, but first, being a huge fan, I want to see them do well. But, the record company is concerned with sales and if a record doesn't perform, it could affect a bands standing in the record company. And if you think GD is too big to worry about what the record company thinks, talk to Bon Jovi. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semi-automatic lonely boy Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JJ1964 said: Actually music very much is a competition. read some adorno. Edited August 30, 2016 by Semi-automatic lonely boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 1 minute ago, JJ1964 said: Actually music very much is a competition. Sales don't directly affect us, but first, being a huge fan, I want to see them do well. But, the record company is concerned with sales and if a record doesn't perform, it could affect a bands standing in the record company. And if you think GD is too big to worry about what the record company thinks, talk to Bon Jovi. Oh c'mon now. Sales matter to us psychologically because we want the music and band we like to be in the spotlight to justify our effort and devotion. Green Day's standing in the record company is not going to change, especially if song doesn't sell well. They're one of the biggest rock bands of the past 25 years, they've sold a ridiculous amount of albums, and they're basically immortal with the Hall of Fame status now. They just released 3 albums that tanked and were out of commission do to Billie's drug addiction, and that did hardly any damage to their status with Warner. Worst comes to worst they release independently or move to the hundreds of other labels that would pick them up in a heartbeat. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, DookieLukie said: Oh c'mon now. Sales matter to us psychologically because we want the music and band we like to be in the spotlight to justify our effort and devotion. Green Day's standing in the record company is not going to change, especially if song doesn't sell well. They're one of the biggest rock bands of the past 25 years, they've sold a ridiculous amount of albums, and they're basically immortal with the Hall of Fame status now. They just released 3 albums that tanked and were out of commission do to Billie's drug addiction, and that did hardly any damage to their status with Warner. Worst comes to worst they release independently or move to the hundreds of other labels that would pick them up in a heartbeat. Couldn't agree more with why you think sales matter. It's way for people to say HEY LOOK MY FAVORITE BAND PROVED WHY ROCK MUSIC ISNT DEAD, but sales shouldn't matter to us. Unless they make more Pop Rock friendly tracks I do not see the song living up to their expectations on the charts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, DookieLukie said: Oh c'mon now. Sales matter to us psychologically because we want the music and band we like to be in the spotlight to justify our effort and devotion. Green Day's standing in the record company is not going to change, especially if song doesn't sell well. They're one of the biggest rock bands of the past 25 years, they've sold a ridiculous amount of albums, and they're basically immortal with the Hall of Fame status now. They just released 3 albums that tanked and were out of commission do to Billie's drug addiction, and that did hardly any damage to their status with Warner. Worst comes to worst they release independently or move to the hundreds of other labels that would pick them up in a heartbeat. I agree sales matters because I want them to do well. However, a record label is concerned with making money. No band is totally safe. I'm not saying that Warners is going to drop them or anything, simply that the record label is super concerned with sales. I said, look at Bon Jovi. They sold way more than GD and Mercury records cut their budgets and wanted more of the publishing rights, which was why they left. No band is safe, no matter how established. It is a business. 3 minutes ago, Jake69 said: You guys are acting like the song is doing terrible on the charts. With the lack of promotional I think it's doing pretty decent. I feel like once we get closer to release date, there will be a lot more promoting and it will do better on the charts (not saying that it's doing bad right now). I agree. We just started discussing the chart performances and it just gets so blown out of proportion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillenniumFan Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) Now 4 Million views on YouTube... Edited August 30, 2016 by MilleniumFan 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedundantIdiot Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Yet another discussion that gets blown out of proportion. I don't think anyone is worried about sales, or GD being dropped, or whatever. The number of views that the lyric video has had proves that the song is doing well despite the lack of promotion. I think the one genuine gripe that people do have is this huge gap between the singles release and the albums release as there is now this dead period that is as flat as a fart where we are waiting for something exciting to happen. But things will happen soon closer to the albums release 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, Whatsername_123 said: Yet another discussion that gets blown out of proportion. I don't think anyone is worried about sales, or GD being dropped, or whatever. The number of views that the lyric video has had proves that the song is doing well despite the lack of promotion. I think the one genuine gripe that people do have is this huge gap between the singles release and the albums release as there is now this dead period that is as flat as a fart where we are waiting for something exciting to happen. But things will happen soon closer to the albums release A lot are watching over the charts daily and more will continue to do so even more when the album actually in stores. I think many are worried about sales. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semi-automatic lonely boy Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Eric said: A lot are watching over the charts daily and more will continue to do so even more when the album actually in stores. I think many are worried about sales. are those the fans holding up smartphones and screaming uuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh billlieeeeeee at concerts? if they disappear with low sales, i'll want that album to be really good and do really bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Am I the only one who doesn't give a crap about single sales. Album sales are the important thing to me that indicates whether a band is doing well. I mean singles are important too, but I think the airplay is more important than sales, as that actually gets more people to hear the song 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semi-automatic lonely boy Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Jake69 said: You are being kinda rude. i know and i don't really care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanity Loan Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 @Jake69 and @Semi-automatic lonely boy Stop it both of you. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semi-automatic lonely boy Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Matt. said: @Jake69 and @Semi-automatic lonely boy Stop it both of you. ok mummy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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