02 - Bang Bang

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

7 minutes ago, Todd said:

Sweet! Kevin Kerslake directed the Brain Stew video  Cool to see that he's working on this too

Yes, I checked his bio, he looks like a quality guarantee. I love his works with Sonic Youth. Cool videos everywhere.   

[Todd]

1 minute ago, Billie Hoe said:

Uhhh... wasn't Tim Armstrong supposed to direct it? Or was that a joke?

It says Tim's directing and Kevin's operating the camera

[Billie Hoe]

4 minutes ago, Todd said:

It says Tim's directing and Kevin's operating the camera

Ooooh, OOPS. I totally didn't see the "T. Armstrong"  Just faded it out because another Armstrong is in that picture

I'm sorry  I'm gonna hide in a hole now

[Sarcasm]

2 hours ago, Eric said:

Yeah... it sounds like a complaint.

if you can't find criticisms you're blind 

[Jean]

50 minutes ago, 21guns&novacaine said:

Just realized that the lyric 'I want to be like the soldiers on the screen' could be referencing the shooter being inspired by the footage of another shooting on TV, and in his twisted mindset, perhaps believes the killer is a 'soldier' by doing so, and wants to do that, too, because of the recognition. 

Or possibly Call of Duty.

[Eric]

43 minutes ago, Sarcasm said:

if you can't find criticisms you're blind 

So I criticize things on here and I get attacked for it by a group of people. I call out your sillly complaint and yet I am blind? ok only on GDC  

[Alan86]

17 minutes ago, Jean said:

Or possibly Call of Duty.

When I was imagining how a music video for Bang Bang would look. I instantly thought it be cool to have something that is like a cross between Red hot Chili peppers Californication video, call of duty and GTA.

[DeJennsitized]

1 minute ago, Eric said:

So I criticize things on here and I get attacked for it by a group of people. I call out your sillly complaint and yet I am blind? ok only on GDC  

lmao you must really hate it here

[Sarcasm]

5 minutes ago, Eric said:

So I criticize things on here and I get attacked for it by a group of people. I call out your sillly complaint and yet I am blind? ok only on GDC  

it's a read-the-room situation dude, if all you have to say for yourself is that you're not happy here maybe you should take a step back

[Stefano Bras]

On 22/8/2016 at 2:33 PM, Jake69 said:

I like lyrics that make you think a little bit. None of the lyrics on the trilogy made me think. I want the lyrics to have a deeper meaning then lets go to a party and makeout with chicks or I miss you baby, come back. That shit is so generic and boring. 

On 22/8/2016 at 11:54 AM, Jake69 said:

Then name one.

Really? you think that's all the trilogy is about? Alright...  

Here are some that I found to be clever and/or beautiful (and not generic at all as you claim):

 

 

-So won't you stay and count the circles 'round my eyes?

-Did you crash in my imagination too?

-Now you're suckin' on the doorknob that got slammed in your face

-Hey! Isn't that what's-his-face that I see walking down the street? (gotta love the AI Reference damn)

-My tears are putting out my cigarette

-I’m too tired to be bored
I’m too bored to be tired
I’m too mental to go crazy
I’m too drunk to be pure

-Everything that I want, I want from you
But I just can't have you
Everything that I need, I need from you
But I just can't have you

-Is your heart singing out of tune?
Are your eyes just singing the blues?

-This time i got a put my guard down
Lift myself up off the ground
And take the pain

-I chopped me a line of my best friends ashes

-What the fuck does OK stand for?
When the afterlife is only worth dying for

-Don’t look away from the arms of a bad dream
Don’t look away from the arms of tomorrow
Don’t look away from the arms of love.

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All this lyrics seem to be on the same level as Bang Bang in my opinion, song that you enjoy quite a lot as far as I can tell.

Mate, sometimes I feel you're so blindsided and enthusiastic with some stuff, like Bang Bang and Green Day's future (believe me, I think just like you, I think the album is probably gonna be awesome),

But with others stuff you seem rather mindclosed and seagull-ish nonsensical..

[Eric]

5 minutes ago, Stefano Bras said:

Really? you think that's all the trilogy is about? Alright...  

Here are some that I found to be clever and/or beautiful (and not generic at all as you claim):

 

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-So won't you stay and count the circles 'round my eyes?

-Did you crash in my imagination too?

-Now you're suckin' on the doorknob that got slammed in your face

-Hey! Isn't that what's-his-face that I see walking down the street? (gotta love the AI Reference damn)

-My tears are putting out my cigarette

-I’m too tired to be bored
I’m too bored to be tired
I’m too mental to go crazy
I’m too drunk to be pure

-Everything that I want, I want from you
But I just can't have you
Everything that I need, I need from you
But I just can't have you

-Is your heart singing out of tune?
Are your eyes just singing the blues?

-This time i got a put my guard down
Lift myself up off the ground
And take the pain

-I chopped me a line of my best friends ashes

-What the fuck does OK stand for?
When the afterlife is only worth dying for

-Don’t look away from the arms of a bad dream
Don’t look away from the arms of tomorrow
Don’t look away from the arms of love.

 

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All this lyrics seem to be on the same level as Bang Bang in my opinion, song that you enjoy quite a lot as far as I can tell.

Mate, sometimes I feel you're so blindsided and enthusiastic with some stuff, like Bang Bang and Green Day's future (believe me, I think just like you, I think the album is probably gonna be awesome),

But with others stuff you seem rather mindclosed and seagull-ish nonsensical..

 

 

 

No sense in debating with the Elite Green Day fans, they are too cool to understand

[Stefano Bras]

Btw, all that I said was a comparison between Bang Bang lyrics and the ones on the trilogy,

So I believe I'm not going off topic.

[Stefano Bras]

2 minutes ago, Jake69 said:

Are you fucking kidding me. Mind closed? I don't think the lyrics on the trilogy are good. That's it. Also, I do like bang bang but I know it has its flaws. It's very over produced and the vocals are way to thin. Yes, I'm excited about green day's future but I also love the past. I'm not seagull at all. I ain't a troll, I just say what I really think. 

I'm not saying you're a troll, I'm just saying that one day you say very optimistic things about RevRad and GD's future (which it is alright but sometimes it comes as a bit blinded, like "it doesn't matter if RevRad sound like The Network meets Nightlife 2.0, it's gonna be dope", even though obviously you don't think that way), but then you say stuff like "The trilogy is only about partying, making out with chicks and generic lyrics about missing my bae hehehe lmao lol". It's doesn't make much sense to me honestly, but it's fine, it's your opinion I guess.

 

11 minutes ago, Jake69 said:

Me thinking the trilogy has flaws makes me too cool to understand. 

One think is saying it has flaws (it does), another one very different is saying it's only about partying and shit.. c'mon man.

[Stefano Bras]

8 minutes ago, Jake69 said:

If the RevRad sucks, I'm going hate it dude. I don't get were you got I'm blinded from. Just cause I love bang bang I'm not over optimistic. Also, I love the trilogy but the lyrics aren't the best. I don't think all the songs are about making out with chicks. Dude, if you're going to make all these accusations about me. Give me some examples please. PM me if you have a problem with me.

No problems man haha, I'm aware that you're not blinded, I just said that sometimes things you say come across as it.

My point was that you're very open minded when we're talking about Bang Bang and Revolution Radio but then you say stuff like "I want the lyrics to have a deeper meaning then lets go to a party and makeout with chicks or I miss you baby, come back. That shit is so generic and boring" which I think is a very 'mind closed' thing to say.

That's all, no hard feelings.

EDIT:

Also what I meant is not that I'm saying that you think all the songs are about making out with chicks, what I meant is that saying that the trilogy lyrics have no deeper meanings than the examples you provided is a foolish thing to say, actually I think Bang Bang lyrics are comparable to some songs on the trilogy @Jake69

[Eric]

1 hour ago, Jake69 said:

Are you fucking kidding me. Mind closed? I don't think the lyrics on the trilogy are good. That's it. Also, I do like bang bang but I know it has its flaws. It's very over produced and the vocals are way to thin. Yes, I'm excited about green day's future but I also love the past. I'm not seagull at all. I ain't a troll, I just say what I really think. 

Me thinking the trilogy has flaws makes me too cool to understand. 

way tooo coool

51 minutes ago, Stefano Bras said:

No problems man haha, I'm aware that you're not blinded, I just said that sometimes things you say come across as it.

My point was that you're very open minded when we're talking about Bang Bang and Revolution Radio but then you say stuff like "I want the lyrics to have a deeper meaning then lets go to a party and makeout with chicks or I miss you baby, come back. That shit is so generic and boring" which I think is a very 'mind closed' thing to say.

That's all, no hard feelings.

EDIT:

Also what I meant is not that I'm saying that you think all the songs are about making out with chicks, what I meant is that saying that the trilogy lyrics have no deeper meanings than the examples you provided is a foolish thing to say, actually I think Bang Bang lyrics are comparable to some songs on the trilogy @Jake69

Of course there is deeper meaning. They think because there is an obvious drop in overall message from AI and 21st that they are automatically shit. They need to live a lil and realize not everything has to be so serious.

[Eric]

23 minutes ago, Jake69 said:

Are you really that immature? 

You should be a mod, you are that COOOLLLL!

[inthehallwaynow]

Alright guys enough of the back and forth shitting contest 

[Stefano Bras]

I mean,  maybe there's no lines like "I'm the son of rage and love, the jesus of suburbia" on the trilogy, but I'm not seeing that in Bang Bang either and there's nothing wrong with that.

I think both, Bang Bang and the Trilogy, deliver perfectly their message. The problem is that people are not aware that you can't expect the same thing with every release.

People have to understand that you can't appreciate everything in the same way, the trilogy is meant to be a collection of simple, fun and stripped down rock n roll songs. It's meant to have songs like Fuck Time, Let Yourself Go and Sex Drugs & Violence, that's the whole point.

If your mindset is configurated to enjoy only a certain type of things obviously you're not gonna be able to enjoy the complexity and poetic deliver of masterpieces like American Idiot and at the same time enjoy the simplicity of albums like ¡UNO! or Kerplunk.

[Z J]

3 hours ago, Stefano Bras said:

Really? you think that's all the trilogy is about? Alright...  

Here are some that I found to be clever and/or beautiful (and not generic at all as you claim):

  Hide contents

 

-

-Hey! Isn't that what's-his-face that I see walking down the street? (gotta love the AI Reference damn)

 

-Everything that I want, I want from you
But I just can't have you
Everything that I need, I need from you
But I just can't have you

 

 

-Don’t look away from the arms of a bad dream
Don’t look away from the arms of tomorrow
Don’t look away from the arms of love.

 

got to be kiddin me with these 3, other ones I like too

3 hours ago, Eric said:

No sense in debating with the Elite Green Day fans, they are too cool to understand

 

2 hours ago, Eric said:

way tooo coool

Of course there is deeper meaning. They think because there is an obvious drop in overall message from AI and 21st that they are automatically shit. They need to live a lil and realize not everything has to be so serious.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

16 minutes ago, Stefano Bras said:

 

People have to understand that you can't appreciate everything in the same way, the trilogy is meant to be a collection of simple, fun and stripped down rock n roll songs. It's meant to have songs like Fuck Time, Let Yourself Go and Sex Drugs & Violence, that's the whole point.

If your mindset is configurated to enjoy only a certain type of things obviously you're not gonna be able to enjoy the complexity and poetic deliver of masterpieces like American Idiot and at the same time enjoy the simplicity of albums like ¡UNO! or Kerplunk.

This point is bunk because the trilogy is not stripped down in the slightest, nothing about a 37 song triple album with those vocals is stripped down. You guys keep saying "the whole point is to have fun" but like there are way more songs on the trilogy with serious subject matter, and they're not all that either. I love pop music, mindless stuff, and I don't like a lot of the trilogy. 

 

Bang Bang can go toe-to-toe lyrically with any song on the trilogy, I'm actually struggling to think of a better one, and we're talking about 37 songs vs 1. You can point out one or two lines that may be good, but whole songs? Not many trilogy songs held it together lyrically for their entirety 

[Eric]

7 minutes ago, Z J said:

got to be kiddin me with these 3, other ones I like too

 

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

This point is bunk because the trilogy is not stripped down in the slightest, nothing about a 37 song triple album with those vocals is stripped down. You guys keep saying "the whole point is to have fun" but like there are way more songs on the trilogy with serious subject matter, and they're not all that either. I love pop music, mindless stuff, and I don't like a lot of the trilogy. 

 

Bang Bang can go toe-to-toe lyrically with any song on the trilogy, I'm actually struggling to think of a better one, and we're talking about 37 songs vs 1. You can point out one or two lines that may be good, but whole songs? Not many trilogy songs held it together lyrically for their entirety 

I have fun listening to the trilogy. Get over it and back on topic since Mr. Inthehallwaynow said so  

[Steven Seagull]

3 hours ago, Jake69 said:

Are you fucking kidding me. Mind closed? I don't think the lyrics on the trilogy are good. That's it. Also, I do like bang bang but I know it has its flaws. It's very over produced and the vocals are way to thin. Yes, I'm excited about green day's future but I also love the past. I'm not seagull at all. I ain't a troll, I just say what I really think. 

Me thinking the trilogy has flaws makes me too cool to understand. 

If you don't like GD you're a troll, deal with it.

[Stefano Bras]

13 minutes ago, Z J said:

got to be kiddin me with these 3, other ones I like too

This point is bunk because the trilogy is not stripped down in the slightest, nothing about a 37 song triple album with those vocals is stripped down. You guys keep saying "the whole point is to have fun" but like there are way more songs on the trilogy with serious subject matter, and they're not all that either. I love pop music, mindless stuff, and I don't like a lot of the trilogy. 

Bang Bang can go toe-to-toe lyrically with any song on the trilogy, I'm actually struggling to think of a better one, and we're talking about 37 songs vs 1. You can point out one or two lines that may be good, but whole songs? Not many trilogy songs held it together lyrically for their entirety 

Not at all, I like the first because of it's reference that's it; the Stray Heart one reminds of Church On Sunday where Billie says that some lyrics can seem cliché and therefore shitty but sometimes you can be cliché while being completely honest and that's fine, I felt the same way with Stray Heart, those lines can sound cliché but  I think they're genuine; same thing with the forgotten's one.

I don't see where you're getting that, most of the trilogy is about not so serious stuff or just simple pop punk kind of love/angry songs.

I agree Bang Bang has better lyrics but like I said, the point of Bang Bang, the "goal" of the song, was completely different, obviously the lyrics of most of the trilogy songs are more simple than Bang Bang, they have completely different intentions.

[DookieLukie]

Heard Bang Bang for the first time on the radio since the premiere. It was a pleasant surprise.

[Z J]

6 minutes ago, Steven Seagull said:

If you don't like GD you're a troll, deal with it.

 I dislike the trilogy, everyone knows I'm not trolling. It may be a you problem

 

Also, I agree with the people saying it will be tough for GD to follow in Twenty One Pilot's wake. The real issue is that TOP are on the "rock" charts, but they do so many more things that cause them to do well across top 40 radio. They rap, they incorporate EDM, they are bound to no genre. Green Day will be hard pressed to beat them anywhere head to head, just have to hope that TOP don't have plans to run another single through the radio cycle (though they'd be insane not to, there's at least 3 other radio gems on that album). 

For those reasons, I don't think we see Bang Bang reach number one (on the rock charts), unless it lasts a while and gets a boost after the album comes out. We also have to consider that TOP are coming to the end of the album cycle, their songs have been out there for well over a year now, so perhaps that skews things a bit. 

[Fuzz]

This isn't the topic to debate the trilogy.