02 - Bang Bang

[matteo263]

34 minutes ago, TimmyChunks said:

Agreed. I was on a trip this weekend so I got some serious headphone/ plane time with this one. Overall the sound and mix job are really solid- pretty stunning, actually when compared side by side with previous albums. I'm no audiophile/ mix engineer, so can someone help me by explaining how much of this (if any) can be attributed to new technology? Has recording technology improved this significantly over the years? I would assume they used absolute top of the line equipment and recording methods during their recent major releases, but this seems like it's on a whole new level.

Also, I agree that the vocals tend to get overpowered in a few spots, but given the power of the drums and guitars I'd imagine something would need to be sacrificed. The drum mix- and quality of Tre's drumming- was shocking to me. I've always thought the world of him, but in some recent albums it seemed he had either been holding back a bit or had deliberately been more restrained. Not on this one.

 

Andrew Scheps has moved into mixing completely 'in the Box'...meaning no hardware or anything, just computer software. CLA mixed green day since Nimrod (i think) and does everything in analogue with hardware and really expensive gear. There is no right or wrong way to mix, but the sound is certainly different

[GenXIdiot]

I went walking with my phone and headphones and listened to Bang Bang over and over for my entire walk, LOL. The tempo is perfect for walking and it sounds GORGEOUS through headphones.

[desertrose]

Green Day -Bang Bang

 

After 4 years, the great band Green Day released their new song Bang Bang.
I was lucky enough to be invited by Warner Music to direct the official lyric video for this powerful song. Green Day is one of my favorite bands, so I had so much fun working with them.

My role: Direction, Design and Animation.
Produced by: Devin Sarno, Laura Mende

 

http://blinkmybrain.tv/greenday-bang-bang

[UNICORN VOMIT]

I have been listening all day & it finally has come on the radio - the best song of the day.  Goal achieved for today.

[N A I]

The bridge is my favorite part of the song 

[Joe.]

I love it, the guitar and bass seems so HUGE

[DeJennsitized]

Lmao, everytime 'I got my photo bomb' comes on, I hear 'I got my vol au vent'

[Chin for a Day]

Bang Bang is #13 on Alt Nations most requested songs list.  They do it on a Saturday so the song was only out for 2 days.  Now if the oldest didn't total my car with Sirius radio I could listen to it.  

[Siddharth_471]

9 minutes ago, Jake69 said:

Anthony Fantano (theneedledrop) isn't to fond of "Bang Bang".

Its the first song he talks about.

 

[xXRustyJamesXx]

1.6 million views on YouTube...

pretty disappointing

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

1 minute ago, xXRustyJamesXx said:

1.6 million views on YouTube...

pretty disappointing

Not at all. 6.1 millions views on Facebook. It already has the same amount of views the Oh Love Lyric video gained in 4 years.  

[Joe.]

Every time I hear "I wanna dance like I'm on the video" I have this mental image of BJ twerking and I don't know how to feel about that

[Jean]

Billboard: This week of Aug. 27th

Rock Airplay: #9

Rock Digital Songs: #42

Alternative Songs: #16

Mainstream Rock Songs: #17

Hot Rock Songs: #23

[Steven Seagull]

31 minutes ago, J a c said:

Not at all. 6.1 millions views on Facebook. It already has the same amount of views the Oh Love Lyric video gained in 4 years.  

Only that Facebook views mean nothing

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

3 minutes ago, Steven Seagull said:

Only that Facebook views mean nothing

Why? Facebook views are nowadays used by every chart, including Billboard. They used FB as primary platform, it's obvious they're gaining more views there.  

[Second favourite son]

6 minutes ago, Steven Seagull said:

Only that Facebook views mean nothing

They mean quite a lot.  For a view to have been counted, the video has to have played for long enough to make an impression on the user.  Of course 6.1 million people haven't watched the entire video from start to finish.  But the video has made an impression on these people, which is great from a publicity viewpoint.

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

Just now, Second favourite son said:

They mean quite a lot.  For a view to have been counted, the video has to have played for long enough to make an impression on the user.  Of course 6.1 million people haven't watched the entire video from start to finish.  But the video has mad an impression on these people, which is great from a publicity viewpoint.

And, just saying, on YouTube even a 1 second view count as a normal view. 

[Sanity Loan]

38 minutes ago, xXRustyJamesXx said:

1.6 million views on YouTube...

pretty disappointing

Well, considering the official site only has the Facebook video up (which has 6 million as the other person pointed out), 1.6 isn't too bad. If you think about it, a lot of casual fans would follow this pattern: Hey, Green Day has a new song out, let me check their website.

[Steven Seagull]

20 minutes ago, Second favourite son said:

They mean quite a lot.  For a view to have been counted, the video has to have played for long enough to make an impression on the user.  Of course 6.1 million people haven't watched the entire video from start to finish.  But the video has made an impression on these people, which is great from a publicity viewpoint.

Facebook records a view if it was played for more than 3 seconds. I think youtube uses 10 seconds. Also Facebook autoplays videos, so if you're looking at your timeline you see several posts in a row. You don't even need to watch the video and it will still record a view.

[Private Ale.]

6 days and every morning i wake up with "i wanna be a celebrity martyr" in my head. Occasionally ,it goes to bridge part too. And there was one time my brain went "i got my photo bomb! i got my vietnam!"

and i'm not even trying .I was thinking maybe it's stuck in my head because of my love for GD but actually it's just because it's a great song.

i love 8-bit version a lot too. 

[DookieLukie]

Chart performance is kind of underwhelming. Oh Love debuted at #1 on like two Rock charts. Maybe it had a longer week to chart on? I don't remember.

[Second favourite son]

7 minutes ago, Steven Seagull said:

Facebook records a view if it was played for more than 3 seconds. I think youtube uses 10 seconds. Also Facebook autoplays videos, so if you're looking at your timeline you see several posts in a row. You don't even need to watch the video and it will still record a view.

I know.  But even if you haven't watched it, you've seen it and are aware it exists.  

[Steven Seagull]

8 minutes ago, DookieLukie said:

Chart performance is kind of underwhelming. Oh Love debuted at #1 on like two Rock charts. Maybe it had a longer week to chart on? I don't remember.

16.7.2012 was Monday yes

 

2 minutes ago, Second favourite son said:

I know.  But even if you haven't watched it, you've seen it and are aware it exists.  

true

[HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN]

40 minutes ago, Steven Seagull said:

Facebook records a view if it was played for more than 3 seconds. I think youtube uses 10 seconds. Also Facebook autoplays videos, so if you're looking at your timeline you see several posts in a row. You don't even need to watch the video and it will still record a view.

"YouTube's definition of a view is a legitimate (non-robot) video REQUEST. That means if the page loads, that's a view, the user doesn't actually have to watch more than 1 second."

https://www.quora.com/If-one-person-watches-the-same-YouTube-video-twice-does-it-count-it-as-one-or-two-views

By the way the Billboard charts "are monitored on a Friday to Thursday cycle since July 2015, previously it was on a Monday to Sunday cycle. Radio airplay song charts however follows the Monday to Sunday cycle (previously Wednesday to Tuesday). The charts are updated the following Tuesday, but dated the Saturday a further week (i.e. 11 days) later." [Wikipedia]

So we have to wait for a correct comparison between Bang Bang and the Oh Love's result. 

[Bastard of 1967]

15 hours ago, TimmyChunks said:

Agreed. I was on a trip this weekend so I got some serious headphone/ plane time with this one. Overall the sound and mix job are really solid- pretty stunning, actually when compared side by side with previous albums. I'm no audiophile/ mix engineer, so can someone help me by explaining how much of this (if any) can be attributed to new technology? Has recording technology improved this significantly over the years? I would assume they used absolute top of the line equipment and recording methods during their recent major releases, but this seems like it's on a whole new level.

Also, I agree that the vocals tend to get overpowered in a few spots, but given the power of the drums and guitars I'd imagine something would need to be sacrificed. The drum mix- and quality of Tre's drumming- was shocking to me. I've always thought the world of him, but in some recent albums it seemed he had either been holding back a bit or had deliberately been more restrained. Not on this one.

 

I remember when the guys dropped Demolicious the contrast between their demo songs and the same songs on the Trilogy couldn't have been more distinct.  The guitars and drums were dirtier, more powerful, and in a large sense more "real", than what had actually made it onto the album (so much so that I have a custom Trilogy playlist that subs in some of the demo cuts for songs like Carpe Diem and Baby Eyes).  Looks like the band took this feedback to heart.  One big change from past albums is who *isn't* on the mix: Chris Lord-Alge, who has mixed just about every Green Day album since Dookie.  He's been criticized before for applying too much compression when mixing the tracks for the final production, particularly where Tre's percussion is concerned.  As I understand it (and I'm no audio engineer either, but here goes....) the effect of compressing a track is you boost its overall volume at the cost of leveling off the peaks and valleys.  Too little compression gives you a track that doesn't play nicely with the others, while too much gives you a disconcerting "loud and muddy" result.  Chris leans toward the "too much compression" end of the spectrum, which gives you that arena sound but doesn't let the instruments really stand out.  Different production team this time, and it seems we're getting a more "balanced" mix that plays a lot more like Demolicious than the Trilogy or 21st Century Breakdown.  Me likes.