Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 One Direction didn't actually cancel a gig over someone's girlfriend though did they I mean they broke up shortly afterwards so I assume that there were way bigger issues but who tells fans the truth Fucking hell did I just respond about one direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
**nobodylikesyou** Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Scattered Wreck said: The statement said an infection, but someone who appeared to be a member of the crew came on here and said they hd the flu. I missed that. Can you direct me to that post? I came on here to post and complain about not being at my show tonight. But after reading this thread ....and all the nonsense and arguing, I think I will pass... So I will just post a pic I took this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 On 9/19/2016 at 3:52 PM, foxborohottub said: Hello! No need for conspiracy theories folks, its just a really crappy flu bug making its way through the band, crew and friends. I had a bit of it myself... @**nobodylikesyou** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymee!! Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 2 hours ago, Scattered Wreck said: The statement said an infection, but someone who appeared to be a member of the crew came on here and said they hd the flu. He didn't appear to be, it's Bill. It cool, he legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyChunks Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Andres said: It's not something else, yet you like to keep kind of hinting or suggesting that something just "doesn't feel right" to you. You need to stop doing that. It's not cool to throw baseless theories like that around. Members of their crew and members of their family read these forums. It's embarrassing to have someone who continues to subtly try and suggest it could be something more. There's nothing more infuriating than being falsely accused of something or of being wrongly accused of disguising the truth- I think we've all experienced this feeling at some point and can appreciate how unjust, hurtful, and enraging this can be. Out of respect for others I always try to be mindful of this before jumping to conclusions about anything; oftentimes, people are slandered in the press and/or through rumor, and when we find out well after the fact that these accusations are false, it's too late- the reputational harm has been done. I hate elongating the discussion, but I strongly feel that this is a highly important point based on the damage that can be unfairly inflicted. And to Andres' point, this practice can be personally hurtful in this situation considering that this is THE fan resource for band related discussion, and as a result we're lucky enough to be occasionally joined by friends and family. Let's not reflect poorly on the GDA community by tossing unfounded speculation around, and let's not fan the flames with loose and unfounded (and just plain incorrect) speculation. It can only create harm and is inherently unfair at every level. Just my thoughts as it not only relates to this situation, but in passing judgement on others in our everyday lives. I've seen a lot of this happen recently in the public realm and also in private, and I've had enough of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockmanx37 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Get well soon guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rootbeersoup Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 53 minutes ago, rockmanx37 said: Get well soon guys. Only time can heal these wounds, but I'll be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatsername Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 13 hours ago, Justin1 said: It would just be nice to get a direct statement from the band members rather than 'the whole band and crew got sick'. I don't want to prolongate this discussion either because I think everything (and more) has been said, BUT I agree with you about one thing: I would have expected a little personal statement from one of them, too. I mean, they must know that speculations will start, we can't blame people for thinking about something more serious than an infection, at least I thought about something more serious when I first read the news. And I think no one here can deny that he has thought about that possibility, at least for a second or two. It would have been easy to resolve the concerns and speculations with a short personal statement to the fans. But I'm sure they have their reasons why they didn't do that, and we have to respect that. And I just hope they take enough time to rest, there's no way they should play when ill. Protracting an infection can lead to even more serious consequences like myocarditis, and I think that's the least thing we want them to get. Because then they can cancel the whole world tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second favourite son Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 16 minutes ago, MMwhatsername said: It would have been easy to resolve the concerns and speculations with a short personal statement to the fans. But I'm sure they have their reasons why they didn't do that, and we have to respect that. You mean like this one? "We’re so sad to announce we have to postpone three shows and cancel Toronto,” said the band. “Many of us have been battling this infection for days on end to be ready, and it just got the best of us” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I'll just say to the mods etc that feel embarrassed about people suggesting there's more to this than meets the eye (something to do with Billie's addictions or anything else) or embarrassed about people who are pissed off about cancelled and postponed gigs and the fact that the band members or family members may actually manage to see the comments because occasionally they might come on here, the worst stuff said here is high praise compared to what is being said on their own official Facebook. Obviously you can shut down the conversations out of respect and that's understandable but I'm saying they've already read people who don't believe they have flu (a lot of people) and an awful lot of very pissed off people typing in bold, furious that they cancelled Toronto without trying to find an alternative date, or the people who feel they always screw over the Midwest. They are saying this on GD's own Facebook page so they are definitely seeing it. Especially after they posted this the same day as they were due to play the first gig. The comments are rage filled. Fans are pissed off that they aren't even getting their gig and rather than announcing a rescheduled gig for St Louis the same day as the show they announce (and Billie tweets) about a competition to win a trip with hotels and meet and greet in LA instead. Want a trip to our sold out @thepalladium concert to meet @bjaofficial? Enter at prizeo.com/greenday to support Project Chimps Trust me the fans on here are essentially beaming with delight since hearing about the postponed and cancelled gigs in comparison with the ones on their own social media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeJennsitized Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 ^ Cool, but just because people are being even worse on the FB page doesn't mean some of the stuff in this thread isn't also shitty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semi-automatic lonely boy Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 13 hours ago, Justin1 said: Yes I know what the flu is. But I also know that professional musicians are trained to work sick much better than others because cancelling shows (especially ones as important as these) costs millions of dollars. lol, 3 club shows and a hockey world cup show millions of dollars? dude, you should stop posting. 12 hours ago, Justin1 said: 'Pretty Dumb' eh? Maybe he isn't 'running around' but what they do is exactly the same thing. Tim has to be as sharp and charming as a tack to sell these iPhones, you clearly have no idea. If anything, it could be even more difficult to public speak for 2 hours straight in an theatre than to perform songs you've performed many times before, and he has to know his product inside and out, as well as answer questions. Anyway, this is getting a little off topic. i wouldn't mind tim cooke to die though, i'd mind a lot if members of green day drop dead #whogetsthereference technology fanboys are some of the most pathetic human beings out there tbh. shouldn't you camp outside for a different coloured phone or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 25 minutes ago, Semi-automatic lonely boy said: lol, 3 club shows and a hockey world cup show millions of dollars? dude, you should stop posting. i wouldn't mind tim cooke to die though, i'd mind a lot if members of green day drop dead #whogetsthereference technology fanboys are some of the most pathetic human beings out there tbh. shouldn't you camp outside for a different coloured phone or something? How is the camping for the phone any different than all the people who camp out for record store day 2x a year? What does it matter to you what people spend their money on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 If people just educated themselves on what flu is, how it puts people out of action and how serious it can be and how not the same as a cold it is, a lot of drama could've been avoided here. 10 hours ago, **nobodylikesyou** said: So I will just post a pic I took this morning. The greatest thing to have come out of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatsername Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Second favourite son said: You mean like this one? "We’re so sad to announce we have to postpone three shows and cancel Toronto,” said the band. “Many of us have been battling this infection for days on end to be ready, and it just got the best of us” It's still not the same as a personal message e.g. on twitter or instagram. Those press releases are written by the people from the PR-department, they usually even write the quotes and the band/the management just approves them. I work in a PR-department, unfortunately not for a great band like GD, but the process is basically the same. And as I said, I don't judge them for anything, they have their reasons for doing it this way, it's totally OK. I just think a sign of life from anyone of them (apart from Billies tweet about Project Chimps) would calm people down a little bit and make a discussion like this redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: I'll just say to the mods etc that feel embarrassed about people suggesting there's more to this than meets the eye (something to do with Billie's addictions or anything else) or embarrassed about people who are pissed off about cancelled and postponed gigs and the fact that the band members or family members may actually manage to see the comments because occasionally they might come on here, the worst stuff said here is high praise compared to what is being said on their own official Facebook. Obviously you can shut down the conversations out of respect and that's understandable but I'm saying they've already read people who don't believe they have flu (a lot of people) and an awful lot of very pissed off people typing in bold, furious that they cancelled Toronto without trying to find an alternative date, or the people who feel they always screw over the Midwest. They are saying this on GD's own Facebook page so they are definitely seeing it. Especially after they posted this the same day as they were due to play the first gig. The comments are rage filled. Fans are pissed off that they aren't even getting their gig and rather than announcing a rescheduled gig for St Louis the same day as the show they announce (and Billie tweets) about a competition to win a trip with hotels and meet and greet in LA instead. Want a trip to our sold out @thepalladium concert to meet @bjaofficial? Enter at prizeo.com/greenday to support Project Chimps Trust me the fans on here are essentially beaming with delight since hearing about the postponed and cancelled gigs in comparison with the ones on their own social media. It's been, like, three days since they announced the cancellations. It's understandable that they haven't announced makeup days yet because believe it or not all of these venues have other bands to book too and the band has to make all the puzzle pieces fit within its schedule as well. They're allowed to continue their usual PR on social media until that happens. I mean, essentially what you're saying is Billie Joe is offering a fan a chance to meet him for a $10 donation to a charity and fans are bitching about it? Shocking. I also don't get why people act like it's their obligation to make us feel better, either. Sure, an Instagram post would've been nice, and fans saying stuff like "I wish they would've posted something more personal about it" is even understandable, but it's not a requirement. People's outrage, acting like we're being betrayed by the lack of an Instagram post from Billie Joe, or a post about something other than the canceled dates is ridiculous. I mean, at the end of the day they're not our friends, they don't even know who we are... they put out an official statement through their PR team, like celebrities do, and are moving on. Maybe we all should too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semi-automatic lonely boy Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 hour ago, WhiteTim said: How is the camping for the phone any different than all the people who camp out for record store day 2x a year? What does it matter to you what people spend their money on? i do neither. but there is a difference. look how iphones are produced, what the prupose of a phone is and how it affects you personally in contrast to art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeJennsitized Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Semi-automatic lonely boy said: i do neither. but there is a difference. look how iphones are produced, what the prupose of a phone is and how it affects you personally in contrast to art. lol are you for real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spark in the night Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I won't lie, I felt pissed when they posted status updates for the behind the scenes video and the chimps tshirt raffle thing. I don't care about that right now, I want my show rescheduled. I want an announcement posted on the status of the shows, not an ugly tshirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Holy shit, this is becoming embarrassing. As much as cancelling shows sucks, it has nothing to do with their other promo activities/the charity. Also, I don't think I need to see any "hey guys, look how sick we are!" posts on Instagram. They are not obliged to give anyone evidence that they are not lying. Frankly, I don't even understand what are the people speculating it could be something more serious on about. I mean, if it were something more serious, wouldn't it be an even more justified reason for postponing the shows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 The behind-the-scenes Bang Bang video was probably scheduled to post by their social media folks a while ago. As for the charity, Billie needs to be worried about helping them, not what's on Green Day's agenda (or not on their agenda), so he probably agreed to post about it on a certain day regardless of what else was going on. Neither have much of anything to do with the postponed concerts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Semi-automatic lonely boy said: i do neither. but there is a difference. look how iphones are produced, what the prupose of a phone is and how it affects you personally in contrast to art. Peoples views of art and opinions differ so vastly. I'm not a "rush to the next iPhone guy" but I can see why people want to experience the next new technology and see how it impacts them. To those people, technology is art sure it's factory produced but the design team are artists. To many of my friends and family they can't believe I would sleep on the streets of a city just to be a little closer to the band. That's my view of art. You shouldn't really call people pathetic humans because they don't fit your ideals. It's really offensive to many people on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solongfromthestars Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 16 minutes ago, dolce_amore93 said: The behind-the-scenes Bang Bang video was probably scheduled to post by their social media folks a while ago. As for the charity, Billie needs to be worried about helping them, not what's on Green Day's agenda (or not on their agenda), so he probably agreed to post about it on a certain day regardless of what else was going on. Neither have much of anything to do with the postponed concerts. Yeah, I'm surprised people think either of these are anything but necessary PR that would have happened either way. I totally get that a message from the band would be nice, especially for people who've lost money, but people don't need to be angry about their regular PR that they don't have much control over. They're not substituting a message about the cancelled shows with this stuff, it's just being posted as was likely planned before this happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I didn't see anyone complaining about the behind the scenes bang bang video but the project chimps thing annoyed people because they posted about winning tickets etc to a show in LA pretty much exactly at the same time they should have been getting ready for their opening show in St Louis and a lot of fans were sitting staring at their hands wondering if THEIR show will even happen. Some comments said that in 2012 they promised to reschedule shows in the Midwest but didn't so some fans were angry about possibly being overlooked twice in favour of the coasts. I've never had a show cancelled on me never mind twice so I can't say how I'd feel about it if I were affected but I guess nobody can tell anyone else how they should feel about a situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymee!! Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Imagine if those affected were all curled up in their beds, tissues up noses and thermometers in mouths, aching and groaning over the fact they can't breathe through their noses properly or move without feeling like they're breaking bones, reading this thread behind their hidden usernames or guest status' and just feeling more like shit because y'ALL CANT SIMMER THE FUCK DOWN???? The reason why each band member hasn't actually come out and spoken about the whole thing could actually be because they're not allowed to. They have PR people to do that are paid to do that stuff for them. As for the project chimp thing, that was just funny timing and he most likely would've put up that tweet at the exact same time had shows been cancelled or not. He's partnered with an organization he cares about and there's a lot of behind the scenes work that would go into just making the meet and greet happen before even announcing it. Stop reading into it all too deeply about how he's choosing to not respond. THEY SICK, LET THEM BE SICK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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