Green Day POSTPONES 3 Tour Days, cancels Toronto show

[Dakke]

Just now, Justin1 said:

I would normally agree with you, but..

a) Cancelling 3 shows at the start of a tour and album launch is a very big deal (business wise)

b) The story doesn't add up in that 'everyone is sick' therefore cancelling shows weeks ahead of time.. I can understand within a day or 2 but cancelling multiple shows ahead of time.. hmmm.

c) Nobody directly from the band is making a statement or apologizing about it.. usually indicating that someone told them not to. And if it really is a flu bug, what's the big deal?

Anyway, if Tre is really doing that interview tonight, I'm sure a lot of these issues will be addressed and 'over-reactive' people like me can shut up

a) Yes, but three shows are not a disaster. There are still two weeks before the album release.

b) They have cancelled a day or two ahead of time. They've annulled these shows on Sunday. The first show in the Pageant in St. Louis was supposed to happen today, Tuesday. They only postponed dates through Saturday the 24th, with the next show being on Monday, 8 days after the announcement. Besides, even if only BJ is sick, they can't play.

c) Why bother making a big deal about it indeed? It is the flu and it can be pretty nasty, even though it passes after a week or two.

Given that Tré is healthy enough to appear live, I don't think we should be too worried.

[Chin for a Day]

5 minutes ago, Justin1 said:

I would normally agree with you, but..

a) Cancelling 3 shows at the start of a tour and album launch is a very big deal (business wise)

b) The story doesn't add up in that 'everyone is sick' therefore cancelling shows weeks ahead of time.. I can understand within a day or 2 but cancelling multiple shows ahead of time.. hmmm.

c) Nobody directly from the band is making a statement or apologizing about it.. usually indicating that someone told them not to. And if it really is a flu bug, what's the big deal?

Anyway, if Tre is really doing that interview tonight, I'm sure a lot of these issues will be addressed and 'over-reactive' people like me can shut up

You should read this

http://www.everydayhealth.com/flu/guide/how-long-does-the-flu-last/

[Teenage Lush]

9 minutes ago, Second favourite son said:

It takes far more than the 3 of them to put on a show though.  And the problem is that, in the last few days before leaving for tour, all these people would have been in contact wih each other.  The band, the touring musicians, sound guys, general roadies, guitar techs, manager etc are all needed for each show to run smoothly, and very hard to replace at such short notice.  

oh yeah i know that! i'm not blaming them for postponing the shows even if only one of them was sick, i just meant that i can understand the band not posting anything about this themselves while they were sick, but they're presumably healthy enough by now to type an instagram post. 

i'm not trying to be an entitled asshole fan (even tho i apparently managed to come off as one lol) i'm just really sad and would most likely feel better if we heard something directly from them. 

[Justin1]

2 minutes ago, Scattered Wreck said:

You should read this

http://www.everydayhealth.com/flu/guide/how-long-does-the-flu-last/

Yes I know what the flu is. But I also know that professional musicians are trained to work sick much better than others because cancelling shows (especially ones as important as these) costs millions of dollars.

[Second favourite son]

1 minute ago, Justin1 said:

I would normally agree with you, but..

a) Cancelling 3 shows at the start of a tour and album launch is a very big deal (business wise)

b) The story doesn't add up in that 'everyone is sick' therefore cancelling shows weeks ahead of time.. I can understand within a day or 2 but cancelling multiple shows ahead of time.. hmmm.

c) Nobody directly from the band is making a statement or apologizing about it.. usually indicating that someone told them not to. And if it really is a flu bug, what's the big deal?

Anyway, if Tre is really doing that interview tonight, I'm sure a lot of these issues will be addressed and 'over-reactive' people like me can shut up

'If it really is a flu bug' #GDCconspiracytheories

The story does add up - they postponed shows 1 week ahead of the shows.  The work doesn't start when the band walks onto stage and plays the first song.  Even if we ignore all the behind the scenes work, they still have to travel.  Have you ever tried travelling across the US when you have the flu?  When I had it, the longest journey I made was from my bed to the sofa.  That was still a bit too far to travel.

In a medical context, flu is not the same as a cold.  It is not even the same as a really bad cold.  Recovery time is about a week, and you really do need that recovery time.  Here's a link to information about flu in case you still don't believe me.

[Chin for a Day]

Just now, Justin1 said:

Yes I know what the flu is. But I also know that professional musicians are trained to work sick much better than others because cancelling shows (especially ones as important as these) costs millions of dollars.

Are you seriously looking at what you type before you type it? 

[stories and songs]

29 minutes ago, Justin1 said:

It would just be nice to get a direct statement from the band members rather than 'the whole band and crew got sick'. I've never heard of so many people getting the same flu bug that would have a band cancel multiple shows in advance.. the math just isn't adding up to me

Right, but...that's exactly what happened. Some of them got sick, and they released a statement. From the band. They had to cancel a few shows and that really, REALLY sucks, but now they're probably just focusing on building their stamina back and prepping for the shows they have coming up. I'd rather them be focused on that then writing up instagram posts. It takes plenty of behind the scenes work before they show up to perform.

When you have the flu or even a stomach virus, it can knock you out for days, and then in the days following you're still not feeling totally yourself. They were smart to give themselves extra time to rest, rather than pushing it too far and having them not be well on the road. Figure a few members of their crew, Jason, and Billie are sick (no idea who is sick, just basing it off of previous info). That's plenty to warrant canceling a few shows. They need their singer, they need their lead touring guitarist, and they need their crew. 

I'm the biggest worrier I know, and seriously, I'm not worried about this whatsoever beyond them getting healthy and strong enough to play in a few days. If I can't trust them when they say, "We're really sad but we need to start the tour late because a lot of us are sick," then my relationship with them has turned into something ugly. 

[Dakke]

1 minute ago, Teenage Lush said:

oh yeah i know that! i'm not blaming them for postponing the shows even if only one of them was sick, i just meant that i can understand the band not posting anything about this themselves while they were sick, but they're presumably healthy enough by now to type an instagram post. 

i'm not trying to be an entitled asshole fan (even tho i apparently managed to come off as one lol) i'm just really sad and would most likely feel better if we heard something directly from them. 

No problem. We understand your disappointment. BJ has tweeted about his chimps, so he's still amongst the living and blogging

[stories and songs]

^ The lack of proper capitalization indicates that he is indeed back to tweeting. Hahaha. I'm glad. 

[Justin1]

4 minutes ago, dolce_amore93 said:

Right, but...that's exactly what happened. Some of them got sick, and they released a statement. From the band. They had to cancel a few shows and that really, REALLY sucks, but now they're probably just focusing on building their stamina back and prepping for the shows they have coming up. I'd rather them be focused on that then writing up instagram posts. 

When you have the flu or even a stomach virus, it can knock you out for days, and then in the days following you're still not feeling totally yourself. They were smart to give themselves extra time to rest, rather than pushing it too far and having them not be well on the road. Figure a few members of their crew, Jason, and Billie are sick (no idea who is sick, just basing it off of previous info). That's plenty to warrant canceling a few shows. They need their singer, they need their lead touring guitarist, and they need their crew. 

I'm the biggest worrier I know, and seriously, I'm not worried about this whatsoever beyond them getting healthy and strong enough to play in a few days. If I can't trust them when they say, "We're really sad but we need to start the tour late because a lot of us are sick," then my relationship with them has turned into something ugly. 

I agree that the band should be as rested and healthy as possibly, but album launches are a really big deal, and a really bad time to be cancelling shows, so the flu seems odd. But hey, I hope I'm wrong and as Weezer would say.. 'Everything will be alright in the end'

I'm done..

[Chin for a Day]

2 minutes ago, Justin1 said:

I agree that the band should be as rested and healthy as possibly, but album launches are a really big deal, and a really bad time to be cancelling shows, so the flu seems odd. But hey, I hope I'm wrong and as Weezer would say.. 'Everything will be alright in the end'

I'm done..

Damn, I forgot, people plan when they get the flu.

[Teenage Lush]

i will say that for me this is nothing compared to when they postponed a couple shows back in 2005 because one of them was sick. i was 13 years old and already in line for my first show with pit tickets when they started putting up signs that the show that night was cancelled. talk about devastating. my friend's dad had to drive us three hours back home with three sobbing girls in the backseat. 

at least now i am old enough to just appreciate the four days i gave myself off work this week even if there's no show  

[MaraGreenDay]

This is like when people gets worry when they don't post something when one of them is celebrating their birthday lol 

[Justin1]

2 minutes ago, Scattered Wreck said:

Damn, I forgot, people plan when they get the flu.

Do you think Tim Cooke would have cancelled his iPhone 7 launch with the flu?

Workaholics and Professionals usually learn to work through being sick because missing work can literally cost millions, and this is a prime example of that. I'm sure they can recover with some really good promotional shows next week, but if not, it's really bad for an album launch financially.. especially the biggest band in the world.. that's all I'm saying.

[Second favourite son]

2 minutes ago, Justin1 said:

Do you think Tim Cooke would have cancelled his iPhone 7 launch with the flu?

He would've cancelled it if a large proportion of his workforce got the flu.  It's like saying should Green Day cancel if Warner music CEO gets the flu.  Entirely different situation.

[Teenage Lush]

3 minutes ago, Justin1 said:

Do you think Tim Cooke would have cancelled his iPhone 7 launch with the flu?

Workaholics and Professionals usually learn to work through being sick because missing work can literally cost millions, and this is a prime example of that. I'm sure they can recover with some really good promotional shows next week, but if not, it's really bad for an album launch financially.. especially the biggest band in the world.. that's all I'm saying.

it's really kind of gross that you think they should put money before their health though

[Second favourite son]

4 minutes ago, Justin1 said:

especially the biggest band in the world.. 

One Direction cancelled a show cos Liam broke up with his girlfriend...

[lizziebix]

15 minutes ago, Justin1 said:

I agree that the band should be as rested and healthy as possibly, but album launches are a really big deal, and a really bad time to be cancelling shows, so the flu seems odd. But hey, I hope I'm wrong and as Weezer would say.. 'Everything will be alright in the end'

I'm done..

 

5 minutes ago, Justin1 said:

Do you think Tim Cooke would have cancelled his iPhone 7 launch with the flu?

Workaholics and Professionals usually learn to work through being sick because missing work can literally cost millions, and this is a prime example of that. I'm sure they can recover with some really good promotional shows next week, but if not, it's really bad for an album launch financially.. especially the biggest band in the world.. that's all I'm saying.

I was looking forward to the part where you said you were done. What the heck happened?   Done is done , right?

[stories and songs]

I'd be out of work for a few days if I got the flu (or a stomach virus, or even possibly a really bad sinus infection because those wipe me out). And I sit at a desk all day. Sure, you can power through it to a certain extent, but most of us can also call out sick or work from home if we need to. We're not jumping around on stage lugging instruments around, and sweating our asses off. Don't know about anyone else, but if I don't feel well I CANNOT be hot. Imagine feeling terrible and being in a small theater with a couple thousand people? God, that sounds awful to me. 

The fact that this is a debate is silly. They didn't think they were well enough to perform, so they're resting up until they feel up to it. They have AWESOME work ethic so honestly I'm glad that they're taking time for themselves if they think they need it. Yeah, Mike has played through puking off the stage, but that doesn't mean he SHOULD. 

[Justin1]

5 minutes ago, Teenage Lush said:

it's really kind of gross that you think they should put money before their health though

Depending on how serious it is.. yes. If isn't serious, they should work through it (and usually do without anyone knowing). Billie is worth $50,000,000 for a reason. Obviously, if it's something very serious that would hurt them long term, they shouldn't, but a flu doesn't fit that bill to me, sorry.

[The Grohl]

*grabs popcorn and watches* Wow

All I know is when I had a bad bug, and this was not the flu, I woke up everyday with a fever, had to go to the doctor, and be on three different meds to fight it. I had to take time off work and school. It can get really serious and the flu even more so. The guys did the right thing by resting up.

[lizziebix]

7 minutes ago, Justin1 said:

Depending on how serious it is.. yes. If isn't serious, they should work through it (and usually do without anyone knowing). Billie is worth $50,000,000 for a reason. Obviously, if it's something very serious that would hurt them long term, they shouldn't, but a flu doesn't fit that bill to me, sorry.

 

10 minutes ago, lizziebix said:

 

I was looking forward to the part where you said you were done. What the heck happened?   Done is done , right?

 

[Alan86]

This thread is beyond fuckin Mental.

[jengd]

We get that you are upset, we all are all but have you seen GD live?  There is no way they could perform the show they want to when ill.  Years ago Billue got mild food poisoning in Thailand and managed to only cancel one show I think it was.  They have an amazing work ethic but if they did perform with a virus they could make themselves very ill indeed which would need much longer to get over.  Also, they don't want to start a tour and get bad reviews because they sound bad even if it were due to illness.  Sorry but they just need some time.

[AlissaGoesRAWR]

1 hour ago, Justin1 said:

I love how you think it's not okay for fans to have different theories, but it is okay to insult them.

If you had the slightest idea how much something like this would cost the band 'money wise' at the launch of the biggest band in the world's new album, you'd be a little more insightful as to why it's happening. I have NO IDEA what is, but I do think it's more than the band and crew having the flu.

I never said it wasn't okay for fans to have "different theories," even though yours sucks. What I said is it disgusts me that people like you act like such an entitled prick.

Jason and Mike's wife are both recovering from cancer treatment, presumably with weakened immune systems. So let's push them to "work while sick" just to make a buck and to avoid upsetting fans? Come on dude. Their family and health is most important. They have the flu, they canceled shows, and they're making up all of them except the Toronto show, which was tied to an event that can't be rescheduled for them. They're presumably taking a little extra time to rehearse new material before the Columbus show on Monday. 

There is literally no reason to think there is anything more to this story and you're coming off as a real dick with your incessant posts about why you're right. Just drop it.