imXieli Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 i can give you guys one semi-solid reason green day SHOULD (but probably still won't) release a live album for this tour. scattered. this video is from the show i went to in jersey on the club tour, and i was in the mood for this song so i went and found the video. and when i SAW them during the bridge part i didn't notice the keyboard harmonies jason freese was doing above the notes billie was hitting on the guitar at around 2 mins in, but now that i went back and listened it does make me realize the live band for green day does have their own subtle little ways to change up EVERY song that they can properly without damaging the flow & structure of the song itself. yes everybody has mentioned many times before in this thread "oh almost every song on this tour has been put on a live album already"... yeah you see thats the thing... ALMOST. scattered, 86 (i believe they played it towards the end of the tour), armatage, paper lanterns (AAF bonus i dont count it lmao), christie road, and welcome to paradise to name a couple that aren't rev rad songs could all be put on a live album. one that could go one of two directions, make it short (12 songs avg, about the length of a studio album) and appease mainly to hardcore/semi-hardcore fans and put primarily the rarities that havent been on live albums yet and revrad songs, OR they could as mentioned many times previously in this thread do a full concert film start to finish with no songs or parts edited out. i still really wish they would do something like this but judging by billie's activity with the longshot it's pretty safe to assume the revrad era of green day is officially over and we won't be getting a concert film or live album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherryBombs&Gasoline Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 On 2.6.2018 at 2:26 AM, Christian's Inferno! said: Streaming is the main source of music for most people nowadays. Less and less people buy physical copies, so seeing a large increase in streaming. 1500 streams are now equivalent of an album unit so streaming is vital for an album's success, even if most of it is just fans returning to it. But still, it's much higher now than the streams of the trilogy albums. The track with the best streams on the trilogy is Oh Love at only 17.5m streams. And while the streaming for the trilogy has also increased, it's not been at the same rate as RR. So I consider this a rebound from the trilogy which was a commercial failure and I think over time, RR will sell more and get more streams than the trilogy, eventually overtaking Uno in sales I agree. The initial reaction to Uno wasn't that bad. It even received quite a few gold certificatons and has sold more than a million copies if I'm not mistaken. However, I think that people, especially casual fans on Spotify, will rather come back to RevRad than to the trilogy, which is why I think that RevRad is going to be the more successful album in the long run. Which is fair because it was a return to form for the band . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, CherryBombs&Gasoline said: I agree. The initial reaction to Uno wasn't that bad. It even received quite a few gold certificatons and has sold more than a million copies if I'm not mistaken. However, I think that people, especially casual fans on Spotify, will rather come back to RevRad than to the trilogy, which is why I think that RevRad is going to be the more successful album in the long run. Which is fair, because it was a return to form for the band . As of March of 2017, Uno has sold 1,050,000 copies worldwide (330k in the US) while RevRad was on 700,000 (230k in US) at that time. Since then, I'd estimate that RevRad has sold AT LEAST 100k more while Uno's probably had a very small change in the last 15 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherryBombs&Gasoline Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said: As of March of 2017, Uno has sold 1,050,000 copies worldwide (330k in the US) while RevRad was on 700,000 (230k in US) at that time. Since then, I'd estimate that RevRad has sold AT LEAST 100k more while Uno's probably had a very small change in the last 15 months. Yeah, I'd be happy if RevRad sold at least 1,000,000 copies. It don't know why I care, I guess I just want my favourite band to do well and I think that RevRas is just so much better than the trilogy . Maybe we'll get an update in terms of sales when the next album is released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrduckygoosy Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 So RevRad is still not gold in the US ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, mrduckygoosy said: So RevRad is still not gold in the US ? No, but neither is Uno. Gold is 500,000 album equivalents in the US (album sales / streaming / digital downloads) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrduckygoosy Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said: No, but neither is Uno. Gold is 500,000 copies in the US Wow, I'm a bit surprised. It makes me realise how Green Day is more an international band as they sell good worldwide, but actually not that much in the US when you compare them to a band like Blink for example (California is already gold in the US). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 1 minute ago, mrduckygoosy said: Wow, I'm a bit surprised. It makes me realise how Green Day is more an international band as they sell good worldwide, but actually not that much in the US when you compare them to a band like Blink for exemple (California is already gold in the US). Blink sold 186,000 (172k album sales) album equivalents in its first week in the US while GD only managed 95,000 (90k album sales) in its first week. That alone tells us how much better Blink did with album sales, downloads and streaming in the US. If you look at the year end charts for RevRad (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_Radio#Year-end_charts), they were only at 195 on the Billboard 200, whereas in other countries, they were much higher like in the UK at 94. California, in comparison only appeared on 2 Year end charts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_(Blink-182_album)#Year-end_charts), but one being in the US at No. 69, much higher than where RevRad appeared. California was released 3 months earlier however So yeah, I think it's safe to assume that GD did better than Blink outside of the US while Blink did better in the US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherryBombs&Gasoline Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 I think I can confirm that. Green Day is way bigger in Europe than Blink. For example, GD headlined last year's Hurricane festival (which I attended) while Blink was basically the opening act for Linkin Park. So yeah, I think RevRad wasn't a phenomenal success in any country, but it performed decently all around the world which is why I think that it will ultimately be more successful than it's predecessors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunt Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Listen to how California sounds. It’s poppy, catchy, and easy to dance around to. It fits better on mainstream radio. Plus a lot of people bought it because it was like a nostalgia thing. Every god damn kid in middle school liked Blink 182 because it was cool and the songs they wrote fit perfectly with a bunch of preteen kids. They have songs like family reunion that kids can snicker at. Blink 182 is a nostalgic novelty band and people are dumb enough to fall for it no matter how it sounds. Nostalgia is one of the biggest things that helps a lot of major businesses (Pepsi, Disney, Universal, Miller) to make more money. Revolution Radio definitely is a lot more of an aggressive and louder sounding album than California, but it’s biggest downfall is that its more rock oriented than California. It’s mature and not singing about seeing naked dudes. And it doesn’t help that Green Day had a complete shit show of the trilogy and a lot of people kinda lost interest. Plus I’m sure the politics can’t help either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe. Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 24 minutes ago, Cunt said: Listen to how California sounds. It’s poppy, catchy, and easy to dance around to. It fits better on mainstream radio. Plus a lot of people bought it because it was like a nostalgia thing. Every god damn kid in middle school liked Blink 182 because it was cool and the songs they wrote fit perfectly with a bunch of preteen kids. They have songs like family reunion that kids can snicker at. Blink 182 is a nostalgic novelty band and people are dumb enough to fall for it no matter how it sounds. Nostalgia is one of the biggest things that helps a lot of major businesses (Pepsi, Disney, Universal, Miller) to make more money. Revolution Radio definitely is a lot more of an aggressive and louder sounding album than California, but it’s biggest downfall is that its more rock oriented than California. It’s mature and not singing about seeing naked dudes. And it doesn’t help that Green Day had a complete shit show of the trilogy and a lot of people kinda lost interest. Plus I’m sure the politics can’t help either. Blink were successful because that album was written with chart success in mind. RevRad struggled because it was more ‘artistic’ but ultimately was just mediocre as California Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanity Loan Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 6 hours ago, Joe. said: Blink were successful because that album was written with chart success in mind. RevRad struggled because it was more ‘artistic’ but ultimately was just mediocre as California And because it was of interest to the music industry: The first Blink album without founding member Tom Delonge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe. Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Matt. said: And because it was of interest to the music industry: The first Blink album without founding member Tom Delonge. Yeah exactly- it had significance and more interest around it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second favourite son Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Matt. said: And because it was of interest to the music industry: The first Blink album without founding member Tom Delonge. So which member of Green Day should we get rid of to increase sales next time round? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, Second favourite son said: So which member of Green Day should we get rid of to increase sales next time round? 🤔 Billie Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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