Joe K Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, Scattered Wreck said: No, Blink had pretty much no competition. The only competition the week they released was Snoop Dogg. GD had Norah Jones, One Republic, SUM 41, NOFX, even Melissa Etheridge. Why are you getting so upset? The industry write ups seem to be very positive about the sales of this album. I am not an industry insider so I only have to go with what I read. Plus, this is only a forecast, we need to wait to see the actual numbers. Also, I believe California is at around 250K sales now, so even though it had a great irst week, it hasn't sold much after that. You need to sit back and see what happens in weeks to come. Also, GD really didn't start promoting this album until this week. You also have ot consider the succes of Bang Bang, it has been #1 on the rock charts for 6 of 7 weeks. It went to #2 for 1 week and climbed back up to #1. Bored to dEath didn't get any higher than 6. These are all good indications. The success of an album isn't gauged only by first weeks. If it can maintain a decent sales track, much like Bang Bang is on the charts, it will be successful I'm not upset. Don't know if you noticed but I just posted on this very thread like an hour ago that I do think that the album will do better on the following weeks since the promotion just started and the album has received positive feedback. I never said that the album will be a commercial fail just because of the first week. What I'm just saying is that the first week sales were low and that's a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 14 minutes ago, Joe K said: I'm not upset. Don't know if you noticed but I just posted on this very thread like an hour ago that I do think that the album will do better on the following weeks since the promotion just started and the album has received positive feedback. I never said that the album will be a commercial fail just because of the first week. What I'm just saying is that the first week sales were low and that's a fact. Are you a music industry exec? The articles we have been reading indicate that the first week sales are good, so no not a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1039Revolutions Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I've never seen an album debut at #1 with less than 150k total units.. I have a feeling that 84k number isn't the whole shebang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grinch Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 If 84K was the final confirmed number, I feel like the billboard numbers would have been put out already for Revolution Radio. Billboard is the only one that isn't saying anything about album sales unless they're just a week behind on everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe K Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 8 hours ago, Scattered Wreck said: Are you a music industry exec? The articles we have been reading indicate that the first week sales are good, so no not a fact. Well I'm not an expert but the article I read just said "Green Day's Revolution Radio has dissapointing sales" or something like that. It was linked here I think. The sales have been good charting wise but that's just because of the low competition. Like if a huge pop artist like Justin Bieber would've released an album at the same time and revrad would've charted as number 2 the sale's would've not been actually any worse. It was just because of timing why revrad debuted at number one. Like cmon you don't need to be an expert to realise that. But I do think that revrad will do better in the following weeks and probably better than uno like in a span of an month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 3 hours ago, Joe K said: Well I'm not an expert but the article I read just said "Green Day's Revolution Radio has dissapointing sales" or something like that. It was linked here I think. The sales have been good charting wise but that's just because of the low competition. Like if a huge pop artist like Justin Bieber would've released an album at the same time and revrad would've charted as number 2 the sale's would've not been actually any worse. It was just because of timing why revrad debuted at number one. Like cmon you don't need to be an expert to realise that. But I do think that revrad will do better in the following weeks and probably better than uno like in a span of an month. Absolutely agree. I find it mind boggling how people equate one artists sales with who else released material the same week. If absolutely nobody else in the world released anything would more people have run out and bought Revolution Radio but because they had to somehow choose between buying Norah Jones and Green Day they sales were lower? Of course what other major artists are releasing makes a difference as to where it CHARTS in the particular week but I fail to see how it lowers sales figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: Absolutely agree. I find it mind boggling how people equate one artists sales with who else released material the same week. If absolutely nobody else in the world released anything would more people have run out and bought Revolution Radio but because they had to somehow choose between buying Norah Jones and Green Day they sales were lower? Of course what other major artists are releasing makes a difference as to where it CHARTS in the particular week but I fail to see how it lowers sales figures. Personally, having tools like Spotify and Apple Music, I didn't buy the NOFX album, I spent enough money for GD this month. I'll probably buy the record in the next months cause I like to collect their albums, but I think this was the reasonment expressed above. When you have 3-4 contemporary release with an overlapping fanbase/interested public it doesn't seem so awkward to me that the sales numbers will suffer the situation. And considering that we're living in a world where you can legally listen to almost every album for free, this effects are even more amplified IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe K Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 20 hours ago, Scattered Wreck said: The articles we have been reading indicate that the first week sales are good, so no not a fact. All the positive articles have been about how the album charted. The only article that mentioned anything about the actual sale numbers said that it was dissapointing, so yeah a fact. Also you talked about me being upset but tbh to this point it seems like you have been more upset about my posts than I have been about anything Don't worry I do not think that the album is a complete flop already. As you said and I myself have said, the promotion just started so it will do better on the following weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpelstiltskin2000 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 17 hours ago, 1039Revolutions said: I've never seen an album debut at #1 with less than 150k total units.. I have a feeling that 84k number isn't the whole shebang Wasn't Electra Heart by Marina & the Diamonds the lowest selling #1 in history (or something like that). At least in the UK it was #1 having only sold 21,358 copies Random factoid - apparently it was surpassed by Write It on Your Skin by Newton Faulkner which debuted at number one on the UK Albums Chart with first-week sales of 16,647 copies and Newton Faulkner was latterly Johnny in the UK version of the American Idiot musical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocaColaX Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Normally I would buy the cd, but for RR, I pre ordered from iTunes, and the red vinyl. I know a lot of fans on here bought more than one format. I take it the vinyl/cd sales from the official Warner store will be allocated to each country, not the USA? 🔮 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Private Ale. Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 so when the actual sales will be announced? and not just america but world sales,please. Hope pre-orders are counted too. I don't get this industry,i don't know a shit about it. i just hope for a good success of this great album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
End Of The World Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 IMHO world sales are difficult to get so early. From what I know we can get US sales, UK sales, Italian sales and so on and sum them togheter to have an indication. Anyway tomorrow will surely be published the UK chart, as well as the Italian one. For the Billboard, we'll have to wait 'til sunday for the top ten and next tuesday for the official chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Private Ale. Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, Ale7113 said: IMHO world sales are difficult to get so early. From what I know we can get US sales, UK sales, Italian sales and so on and sum them togheter to have an indication. Anyway tomorrow will surely be published the UK chart, as well as the Italian one. For the Billboard, we'll have to wait 'til sunday for the top ten and next tuesday for the official chart. thanks for the info! i hope for good news sunday.but if it's not, that's bummer yet okay , cause the album is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdsjames Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Officially number 1 in the UK with first week sales of 30,880. Apparently this is around 12,000 less than Uno's first week sales. However, as I mentioned earlier in the thread, even if Uno has better first week sales, I think RR will stick around longer due to the more positive initial reactions. It's still not bad going for a 30 year old band who haven't had any real radio play from the album. When more people are choosing to stream rather than buy albums, they still managed to outsell their nearest competitor by 2 to 1. Also, for reference, last weeks number 1 bowed out with around 21,000 copies sold 😉 link here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
End Of The World Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 No.1 in the Italian chart too! FIMI published charts in the Italian afternoon. http://www.fimi.it/classifiche#/category:album/year:2015 Uno! got the Gold certification in Italy (30.000 copies). Hopefully Revolution Radio will do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pisquano Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_Radio The page is updated with the dedut positions. Actually pretty good! Better performance than Uno almost everywhere, and barely with no promotion (Bang Bang has not been played on the radio all over Europe). Impressive #4 in the Netherlands where both AI and 21stCB peaked at #4 and a hair's breadth away from #3 (http://www.dutchcharts.nl/weekchart.asp?cat=a). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 What's taking Billboard so long to update their album charts? Does it take 2 weeks for it to show? The #1 on the Hot 200 is Solange's new album (released Sept. 30) and it say's it just debuted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 It's weird how RevRad is doing so much better in terms of chart positions than Uno did even though it appears to have quite a bit less sales. Has average album sales in general seriously declined this much since 2012? It's only been 4 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakke Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, MysticManiac said: It's weird how RevRad is doing so much better in terms of chart positions than Uno did even though it appears to have quite a bit less sales. Has average album sales in general seriously declined this much since 2012? It's only been 4 years Streaming has taken up a lot since and physical sales have declined substantially, something that increasing vinyl sales can only partly mitigate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, Dakke said: Streaming has taken up a lot since and physical sales have declined substantially, something that increasing vinyl sales can only partly mitigate. I just didn't think physical sales had declined so much. I guess we can't really compare first week sales to Uno/Dos/Tré, 21CB or AI just because of this decline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James11693 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 To be fair though, UNO had a lot of promotion, way more than RR. It's a shame this wasn't promoted a little better because I hear a lot of potential big hits on this record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsername Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 No 1 album in the New Zealand charts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 http://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=303378 This link says that RR has charted at No. 1 in the US (as expected). It doesn't say how many copies have been sold though in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan86 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 https://acharts.co/ireland_albums_top_100 number 1 in Ireland 🇮🇪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 When will we know the overall week sales (combined I mean)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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