HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 7 minutes ago, MikeDirntConfused said: Personally, I believe the critics like GD as well as their fans - but the general public has moved on. I mean nothing stays at the top forever, and GD had two peaks in their career - something unheard of. Blink 182 got hype from the reunion, but if they never broke up, then they'd be in a similar boat in terms of sales. I bought the album at Best Buy the evening of the day it came out, and the display was loaded with unsold copies. A lot of my friends, coworkers, and acquaintances had no idea an album was coming out. Most remember "Wake Me Up When September Ends", "Blvd of Broken Dreams", "American Idiot", and "Basket Case" only. A significant portion thought GD broke up, or they just lost interest. Honestly, how can you judge the impact of this era only 2 days after the album release? Of course Rock music in general is not living a market honeymoon, of course replicate the success of AI is almost an impossible operation, but it's definitely too early to declare the death of their relevance inside the music world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeDirntConfused Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 You can generally predict an album's sales by preorders and initial days sales. Not saying that the album is a flop, but apart from GD fans, it really doesn't look like people care too much about the band. Their existing international fanbase is pretty large, so there will always be hype - but in a U2, Rolling Stones, Metallica kind of way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueshadows Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Album sales are for sure good to have. However I think concerts/tour/merchandises are what brings back the most to artists. Green Day may sell less albums than some other artist but I think they can always count on people showing up for their shows. Many artist are quite popular on top 40 radio but they for sure can't sell out arenas, let alone stadium shows. Well no matter what the final sales number is, if they can get the #1 it'd be great and from early numbers it looks like RevRad will debut at #1 (in the US)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLumian Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Album sales really have gone down across the board for all artists due to streaming services like Spotify. Spotify actually pays artists pretty much next to nothing for streaming. IMO, in the future, we are just going to see albums used a promotional piece for touring since that is where the majority of the money comes from for artists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Alan86 said: It's No. 3 on iTunes Ireland. It was actually number 1 when I checked yesterday. What am I even looking at then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.C Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 iTunes: #1 United Kingdom (=) #1 Italy (=) #2 United States (-1) #2 Australia (=) #2 Canada (-1) #2 New Zealand (-1) #4 Switzerland (-1) #5 Austria (-1) #5 Germany (=) #5 Ireland (-4) #5 Japan (-1) #5 Norway (-2) #6 Denmark (-4) #6 Mexico (-3) #7 Brazil (-4) #7 Russia (-3) #7 South Africa (-1) #8 Belgium (-2) #9 Spain (-4) #10 Netherlands (-2) #18 France (-9) #18 Indonesia (-11) #65 Turkey (-49) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Green Day is doing good on Finnish radio. Still Breathing is the most played song of the week on Radio City and it's on the second spot on YleX Top 20 -list. Bang Bang is also in Radio City's Top 10 most played songs of the week and it's played many times during a day on Radio Rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 2 hours ago, MikeDirntConfused said: You can generally predict an album's sales by preorders and initial days sales. Not saying that the album is a flop, but apart from GD fans, it really doesn't look like people care too much about the band. Their existing international fanbase is pretty large, so there will always be hype - but in a U2, Rolling Stones, Metallica kind of way. Oh well, if Rolling Stones is the comparison I'm completely fine with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeDirntConfused Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 I'm not saying Green Day is forgotten or dismissed or anythjng of the sort. I just think the band is a different stage of their careers - like Robert de Niro. His mainstream, leading man days are gone. He's now doing whatever he wants without caring about the box office performance of his films. That being said, people have moved on to Leonardo, Christian Bale, etc. While De Niro is still respected, he's not "popular". De Niro fans will still watch his movies, but he's no longer the talk of the town. The same can be said of Green Day. Album sales, downloads, etc. wise GD will most likely do average. They're more of a legendary act now, where audiences will go to concerts to hear their signature tunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 The fact that the album debuted so high on iTunes charts all over the world is pretty significant for a 30 year old band. I agree that they're now in the stage of their career where the general public might not be super hyped about them (and there's zero wrong with that because they're so well regarded and that's an honor), but hardcore fans alone aren't enough to get it to such a great position. I think there's clearly still a fair bit of interest, even if there's not quite as much as at their peaks. This is honestly the most interest I've seen from casual listeners since AI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixtrix Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 9 hours ago, Jake69 said: Turkey has a terrible taste in music. Looks like the Netherlands dont have much of a better taste though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXRustyJamesXx Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 http://www.alternativenation.net/green-day-revolution-radio-disappointing-sales-does-album-deliver/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixtrix Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, xXRustyJamesXx said: http://www.alternativenation.net/green-day-revolution-radio-disappointing-sales-does-album-deliver/ Not sure how serious I should take that review when they say "The mentions of cherry bombs and Sertraline are just fantastic" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 5 hours ago, xXRustyJamesXx said: http://www.alternativenation.net/green-day-revolution-radio-disappointing-sales-does-album-deliver/ I thought pure copies just meant physical copies as opposed to digital copies etc. So really 74-79k wouldn't be that disappointing as that only accounts for a certain percentage of the total album sales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1039Revolutions Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 33 minutes ago, MysticManiac said: I thought pure copies just meant physical copies as opposed to digital copies etc. So really 74-79k wouldn't be that disappointing as that only accounts for a certain percentage of the total album sales Pure copies is a 1 time purchase of a full hard copy or digital copy of the album. Added on to that is 1 album sale for every 10 'single tracks' purchased by people who didn't buy the full album and 1 album sale for every 1500 streams of the album. Im assuming a lot of people like me bought the singles on iTunes and the full album on CD or vinyl after, so I'd expect that number to be closer to 150k by Friday. It's dropped down to 4th place on. iTunes so I hope it still debuts at #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXRustyJamesXx Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, 1039Revolutions said: Pure copies is a 1 time purchase of a full hard copy or digital copy of the album. Added on to that is 1 album sale for every 10 'single tracks' purchased by people who didn't buy the full album and 1 album sale for every 1500 streams of the album. Im assuming a lot of people like me bought the singles on iTunes and the full album on CD or vinyl after, so I'd expect that number to be closer to 150k by Friday. It's dropped down to 4th place on. iTunes so I hope it still debuts at #1 at least i does pretty well on Spotify! the new songs now all have about 300k plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdsjames Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Based on midweek sales, Green Day are heading for their 3rd UK number one. Revolution Radio is nearly double second place at the moment Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 22 minutes ago, tomdsjames said: Based on midweek sales, Green Day are heading for their 3rd UK number one. Revolution Radio is nearly double second place at the moment Link Uno got 42,651 first week sales in the UK according to wikipedia. According to that link, Green Day have reached 24,000 copies at the midweek stage. So if sales continue at that rate for the remainder of the week, it would sell 48,000 copies. However I think the first half of the week would probably sell better than the 2nd half so it will probably be less than 48,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdsjames Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 minute ago, MysticManiac said: Uno got 42,651 first week sales in the UK according to wikipedia. According to that link, Green Day have reached 24,000 copies at the midweek stage. So if sales continue at that rate for the remainder of the week, it would sell 48,000 copies. However I think the first half of the week would probably sell better than the 2nd half so it will probably be less than 48,000. Uno didn't do badly in terms of first week sales, it was just unlucky being released at the same time as Mumford and Sons second album which broke sales records for the year. The previous week it would have been number 1. Number 1 is impressive for a band who've been around for 30 years and considering the singles haven't really had any radio play over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, tomdsjames said: Uno didn't do badly in terms of first week sales, it was just unlucky being released at the same time as Mumford and Sons second album which broke sales records for the year. The previous week it would have been number 1. Number 1 is impressive for a band who've been around for 30 years and considering the singles haven't really had any radio play over here. Yeah that album sold 600,000 on its first week (in the US) and 159,000 in the UK. Even 21CB and AI wouldn't have got No. 1 if they were released at that time. Getting a No. 1 album is really just dependent on what other albums are released at the same time. I hope RR does better than Uno. It'll certainly do better than Dos or Tré. It might be one of those albums that start selling more in later weeks, as GD didn't start doing much promotion until close to the album release date. Uno dropped to no. 11 in its second week, no. 26 the next week, no. 32 the week after and then no. 46. It dropped quickly, so hopefully this stays in the top 10 for a few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michidookie Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I think it's going quite well in general.. considering this historical period.. But considering it is one of the best albums of one of the best-selling bands ever.. 50.000 on the first week in the UK it's not so good. The fact is that green day albums are being bought only by green day fans, like red hot albums only by their fans, blink 182 albums.. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdsjames Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, MysticManiac said: Yeah that album sold 600,000 on its first week. Even 21CB and AI wouldn't have got No. 1 if they were released at that time. Getting a No. 1 album is really just dependent on what other albums are released at the same time. I hope RR does better than Uno. It'll certainly do better than Dos or Tré. It might be one of those albums that start selling more in later weeks, as GD didn't start doing much promotion until close to the album release date. Uno dropped to no. 11 in its second week, no. 26 the next week, no. 32 the week after and then no. 46. It dropped quickly, so hopefully this stays in the top 10 for a few weeks I have a feeling that even if Uno has better first week sales, RevRad will have more longevity as the initial reactions have been more positive than they were for Uno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe K Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 How long for the Billboard chart update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDInsaniac Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Do we know of anymore promotional work from billie while hes in nyc still? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
End Of The World Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I think Billboard is still collecting data (October 7/13), so we'll have to wait until next tuesday (October 18th) to see them on the chart, that is gonna be labelled October 29th. Here in Italy RevRad is still 1st on iTunes and the FIMI chart is gonna be published on Friday. Let's hope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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