HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 30 minutes ago, Steven Seagull said: 99revolutions was a great neutral song to me. It's catchy with a message that doesn't seem forced. I already said what I think about Bang Bang lyrics. If we do get a political song I would much rather get something like 99rev. 99 Rev is about the Occupy movement, how can you call it neutral? I don't want to go OT, but why a song should be neutral, on any issue? GD have never been neutral and, you know, Dante created a Circle of Hell just for slothful people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopio Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, J a c said: Dante created a Circle of Hell just for slothful people. guess I'm screwed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 10 minutes ago, Procopio said: guess I'm screwed It's never too late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Why is the Trilogy still being discussed in here? Stop it, use this thread for that: As for the subject matter of the new album it's all about how it's done. Won't know if it's good or bad or original or in bad taste or anything else until we actually hear the lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_and_the_ave Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 I'll wander down to my local newsagent and get a copy of Q to scan. Pretty sure I saw it on the shelf when I bought Kerrang earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z J Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 2 hours ago, Steven Seagull said: 99revolutions was a great neutral song to me. It's catchy with a message that doesn't seem forced. I already said what I think about Bang Bang lyrics. If we do get a political song I would much rather get something like 99rev. Well, good news for everyone else is that we almost definitely won't. The issues are far too complex and crucial over here to be dumbed down to what you're looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 At this point in their lives and careers, I love hearing them take on social issues. It's tough and needs to be done with care, but they've proven time and time again they can handle it. I wouldn't ever want them to forgo the more personal songs all together, because they're fantastic at it, but I totally trust that they know what they're doing with the more topical songs. They've never given me reason to worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z J Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, dolce_amore93 said: At this point in their lives and careers, I love hearing them take on social issues. It's tough and needs to be done with care, but they've proven time and time again they can handle it. I wouldn't ever want them to forgo the more personal songs all together, because they're fantastic at it, but I totally trust that they know what they're doing with the more topical songs. They've never given me reason to worry. Yeah this is really what I love about this band. They've found ways to capture and evoke emotion across a variety of themes, whether they be political, introspective, romantic, or otherwise. The only thing that gives me pause is the trilogy, but I think even then I wouldn't really be worried if they had just cut it down to a single album. I'm very interested to hear what other kinds of things they write about given where they're at in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky_stars Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Sorry if this has already been answered/discussed, but will Green Day have a cover story on Rolling Stone to follow up on the short interview with BJ? I thought I heard that but wasn't totally sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Sorry to backtrack but just listened to the podcast and Billie's explanation of Still Breathing is so lovely. "Life's not perfect, it's better than that." Wow, yes. Eventually we will get to the point where the interviews don't make me cry, but today is not that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyChunks Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 3 hours ago, dolce_amore93 said: Sorry to backtrack but just listened to the podcast and Billie's explanation of Still Breathing is so lovely. "Life's not perfect, it's better than that." Wow, yes. Eventually we will get to the point where the interviews don't make me cry, but today is not that day. I'm listening to the interview right now. It's highly encouraging. Billie sounds really clear headed (yeah, I know he has his speaking idiosyncrasies which so many like to give him a hard time about, but I haven't heard him this focused or transparent on an interview before; in the early days he was usually really guarded and/ or fucking around, and in the last 10 years he tended to sound a bit grandiose about everything, which was entertaining but not necessarily revealing). The interviewer who has listened to the music is very positive in his remarks about the album and how organic it sounds. Most notably, he mentions that this is music that the core fans will really enjoy and relate to. This album is definitely something to look forward to- I'm sure it won't be perfect, nothing in life is, but it's going to be a great experience. 7 hours ago, Clayish said: I agree. I don't need more social commentary from this band, especially now. It's getting old, boring and honestly, comes off a little desperate. Great avy, by the way. I'm not trying to be glib, but what else would drive them to write passionate emotionally charged songs at this point? Love (been there, done that- especially at this stage of their lives)? Social commentary seems like a natural outlet for really emotionally charged music and is perfectly fine with me. At this stage of their careers, they can't write another Longview or Welcome to Paradise- those were reflective of their situations at the time. Times have changed and so have their situations. What alternative subject matter aside from social commentary could spark interesting music at this point for this band nearly three decades into their careers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siddharth_471 Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 9 hours ago, Steven Seagull said: I think Billie thought that if he writes songs that reflect the events of the past year then people will see them as punks again. But that doesn't work with younger fans. They should write songs about love and growing up. They are great at those. No weird lyrics, no characters, just a normal song. Sir, by any chance do you happen to be eating your Cheetos in front of your keyboard while typing this? Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopio Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 16 hours ago, Steven Seagull said: I think Billie thought that if he writes songs that reflect the events of the past year then people will see them as punks again. But that doesn't work with younger fans. They should write songs about love and growing up. They are great at those. No weird lyrics, no characters, just a normal song. We got 37 of these songs with the trilogy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatsername Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 12 hours ago, dolce_amore93 said: At this point in their lives and careers, I love hearing them take on social issues. It's tough and needs to be done with care, but they've proven time and time again they can handle it. I wouldn't ever want them to forgo the more personal songs all together, because they're fantastic at it, but I totally trust that they know what they're doing with the more topical songs. They've never given me reason to worry. Agree! And doesn't the fact that we're debating whether songs with political issues are better, or personal songs are better, or songs about growing up are better show the amazing musical variety of this band? I mean, they have proven several times in the past that they're capable of all of that and that they grew with their music and their music grew with them. That doesn't apply to many bands out there. Either they get stuck where they are (like Blink, I loved them as a teenager and in my early 20's, but at some point I felt that they didn't grow with me, mature with me), or they try to reinvent themselves, which fails most of the time. But I always felt that GD were absolutely authentic with what they did. The great thing about growing up (and growing old) with them is that they hit all the topics that become important to you at a certain age. There's this light-hearted Dookie teenage-life, and when you grow older, you realize that there' so much shit happening in the world and you get the urge to change it. I was 17 when AI came out and I started to get involved in politics at about that age, and GD had a big impact on that! Even the trilogy (which I have always liked!) makes perfect sense in that process, because I've always regarded it as some kind of midlife-crisis. Like you wanna be young again and "let yourself go", but suddenly you realize that you're a grown-up with responsibility and life is not only about partying, sex and drugs. That RevRed seems to be dealing with social and political issues now in this crazy fucked-up world we live in is the logical result, I would have been disappointed if they had nothing to say about that. Maybe some people don't like that as much as they like songs about growing up or masturbation, but the good thing is: We can choose whatever we want to listen to, because GD gave us all of it. And that's pretty unique! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z J Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Like how tf are 40 year olds supposed to still be writing about growing up that is the dumbest shit I've ever heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Z J said: Like how tf are 40 year olds supposed to still be writing about growing up that is the dumbest shit I've ever heard They did kind of do it with American Idiot and 21st CB, by writing from the point of view of younger selves and younger characters. Maybe that made people used to it? But yeah unless it's a special case like that I certainly don't want to hear them pretending to be young, I want to hear what they have to say about what's relevant to them now. That's what they did with the trilogy and sounds like what they're doing with this album so the outlook is good. 1 hour ago, Jake69 said: They're not blink 182 I cringed when I saw their comeback video started in a school lol. Apart from revisiting younger times in a way that was still mature and relevant with AI and 21st CB Green Day really have always written from the current time/age rather than clinging on to teenage subjects, totally agree it sets them apart from a lot of bands in their genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris Gotsis Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Jake69 said: They're not blink 182 I was about to say that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unextraordinarygirl Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Jake69 said: They're not blink 182 Thank God for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z J Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Hermione said: They did kind of do it with American Idiot and 21st CB, by writing from the point of view of younger selves and younger characters. Maybe that made people used to it? But yeah unless it's a special case like that I certainly don't want to hear them pretending to be young, I want to hear what they have to say about what's relevant to them now. That's what they did with the trilogy and sounds like what they're doing with this album so the outlook is good. I cringed when I saw their comeback video started in a school lol. Apart from revisiting younger times in a way that was still mature and relevant with AI and 21st CB Green Day really have always written from the current time/age rather than clinging on to teenage subjects, totally agree it sets them apart from a lot of bands in their genre. Good point, I think that maybe you could argue AI is a "growing up" album but the way they did it through the story and a new narrator outside of Billie (JOS) enabled them to sort of step in to those shoes. I doubt they can pull that trick twice. I like the idea of Billie addressing what's right in front of him, like the NYC protest that led to Bang Bang or the paranoia and mental instability that leads to a song like Basket Case. It's more raw and he's so good in those moments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 I see Amazon is selling the cd for 19 bucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 2 hours ago, WhiteTim said: I see Amazon is selling the cd for 19 bucks Wow and that's not even the Book edition thingy too huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtuous Xman Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 2 hours ago, WhiteTim said: I see Amazon is selling the cd for 19 bucks They're sick in the head to be charging that much. But at least its not the lord of the rings and hobbit 30 blu ray set.....800 smackers....AHHAHAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 44 minutes ago, Eric said: Wow and that's not even the Book edition thingy too huh? nope just the regular cd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Bras Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Green Day needs to release this Bang Bang Music Video quick, GDC is slowly dying again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 6 hours ago, Stefano Bras said: Green Day needs to release this Bang Bang Music Video quick, GDC is slowly dying again. In 40 days we'll have a new fucking album, nothing's dying, we are just cooling down our keyboards before the storm arrival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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