End Of The World Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I love RevRad. Again, is their deepest album. "Call me irresponsible" but I rank it higher than 1039SOSH, Kerplunk, 21stCB and Trilogy. It's a 5th place shared with Warning. 2 hours ago, Jane Lannister said: We real fans say it's their best since the Sweet Children EP. We real fans say "each GD album is in the top 12" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 13 hours ago, Psycho Britney said: Does 'Outlaws' remind anyone else of 'Lupe Brown' by The Fratellis? 10 hours ago, Tinkle said: Cc: @Scattered Wreck Yes, they are similar chord progressions, different BPM though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeDirntConfused Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 17 minutes ago, Jake69 said: I don't see what's deep about this album. The political songs feel so forced. RR lyrics make absolutely no sense in the chorus, sounds like they are just singing words that they think sound cool together. Say Goodbye is so repetitive and has no emotion. And troubled times is even more repetitive. Literally the most generic statement said over and over. Feels so uninspired and forced. It has so personally touch to it. To me this record feels shallow. That's what I've been saying since RR came out; prepare to get flamed. The album has a bunch of fillers sprinkled with occasional good songs. I can honestly say that every successive album after AI has had diminishing quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 9 hours ago, Tinkle said: The radio announcer said "some are saying revrad is GD's best since dookie or nimrod" - c'mon now how much are they playing you🤔 I agree that it is one of the best still don't know if it tops AI or not, sometimes I think I does, sometimes I think it doesn't 18 minutes ago, Jake69 said: I don't see what's deep about this album. The political songs feel so forced. RR lyrics make absolutely no sense in the chorus, sounds like they are just singing words that they think sound cool together. Say Goodbye is so repetitive and has no emotion. And troubled times is even more repetitive. Literally the most generic statement said over and over. Feels so uninspired and forced. It has so personally touch to it. To me this record feels shallow. Says the guy who said he likes 8 of 12 songs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Just now, Jake69 said: Confused? No you said in another thread that you liked 8 of the 12 songs. I asked you about it and you said yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Just now, Scattered Wreck said: I agree that it is one of the best still don't know if it tops AI or not sometimes I think I do sometimes I think it doesn't I can't rank their albums because I overplayed everything to the point I only listen to the whole things occasionally and the newest one is my current fave simply because it's not overplayed. 5 minutes ago, MikeDirntConfused said: That's what I always say. Prepare to get flamed. Nah, too lazy to opinion or type. Or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhere Man Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Jake69 said: I don't see what's deep about this album. The political songs feel so forced. RR lyrics make absolutely no sense in the chorus, sounds like they are just singing words that they think sound cool together. Say Goodbye is so repetitive and has no emotion. And troubled times is even more repetitive. Literally the most generic statement said over and over. Feels so uninspired and forced. It has so personally touch to it. To me this record feels shallow. I'd say the problem is only in political songs (but Bang Bang is great and I also like Say Goodbye). The personal are more emotional and sincere - Still Breathing, Somewhere/Forever Now, for example, nothing generic in these songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Jake69 said: I don't see what's deep about this album. The political songs feel so forced. RR lyrics make absolutely no sense in the chorus, sounds like they are just singing words that they think sound cool together. Say Goodbye is so repetitive and has no emotion. And troubled times is even more repetitive. Literally the most generic statement said over and over. Feels so uninspired and forced. It has so personally touch to it. To me this record feels shallow. I can agree with RevRad, that song is kinda a generic political song. But Troubled Times no way. The verses are lyrically fantastic and even though "We live in Troubled Times" is a cliché, it's more relevant than ever. And Say Goodbye is also brilliant lyrically and musically Just because a song is repetitive, that doesn't mean it's a bad song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
End Of The World Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 59 minutes ago, Jake69 said: I don't see what's deep about this album. The political songs feel so forced. RR lyrics make absolutely no sense in the chorus, sounds like they are just singing words that they think sound cool together. Say Goodbye is so repetitive and has no emotion. And troubled times is even more repetitive. Literally the most generic statement said over and over. Feels so uninspired and forced. It has so personally touch to it. To me this record feels shallow. It looks like you're trying to list only the negative things of the album (how can Say Goodbye have no emotion!?). Still Breathing is their deepest song ever. I think it's enough. Just my opinion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Jake69 said: That was probably when the album first came out and I was just so happy for a new GD album. Now it's been out for a while, I'm not loving it. Actually no it was last week. You said you hated the album that the songs weren't really good, then you named 8 songs you liked. I said that is 2/3 of the album and you said yes. I didn't understand it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
End Of The World Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 38 minutes ago, MysticManiac said: The verses are lyrically fantastic and even though "We live in Troubled Times" is a cliché, it's more relevant than ever When I listen to TT I always imagine a music video with all the catastrophes (social and political) of 2000s. In the verse "We run for cover, like a skyscraper's falling down" I see in my mind the tragic video of the Twin Towers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Jake69 said: You mean this post. It says I really don't like. Ahh OK, I read it wrong. Sorry, I disagree with you but ok, get it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 5 minutes ago, End Of The World said: When I listen to TT I always imagine a music video with all the catastrophes (social and political) of 2000s. In the verse "We run for cover, like a skyscraper's falling down" I see in my mind the tragic video of the Twin Towers. I think it could be a great next single. I showed my friend that song (who's not really into GD) and she really liked it. She didn't really like any of the other songs on the album I just don't understand people's complaints with this song. The chorus is catchy (despite being repetitive, which again, does not make the song bad) and the verses are meaningful and lyrically great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jonny Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 It's a great song! Don't have any complaints, but it is one of those songs that hit you the hardest on the first few listens. Perfect song for this day and age though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedundantIdiot Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 2 hours ago, MysticManiac said: I think it could be a great next single Agreed, it would be a good choice for the 3rd single. It's 'radio-friendly' and it's got a catchy chorus. I can see a lot of non-Green Day fans liking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatsername Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 2 hours ago, MysticManiac said: I just don't understand people's complaints with this song. The chorus is catchy (despite being repetitive, which again, does not make the song bad) and the verses are meaningful and lyrically great Yeah, I don't get why some people seem to think that a repetetive chorus/instrumental chorus automatically means that it's a bad song. Hitchin a Ride is repetetive, too and it's a great song. Brain Stew doesn't have a "real" sung chorus and it's a great song. Sometimes you don't need many words to create the right atmosphere. When I listen to TT, it feels like the apocalypse is close, similar to what @End Of The World already said. It feels menacing. For me it's the perfect soundtrack to the crazy times we live in. I would love it as a single, but I doubt it, since we didn't get a lyrics video for it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 1 minute ago, MMwhatsername said: Yeah, I don't get why some people seem to think that a repetetive chorus/instrumental chorus automatically means that it's a bad song. Hitchin a Ride is repetetive, too and it's a great song. Brain Stew doesn't have a "real" sung chorus and it's a great song. Sometimes you don't need many words to create the right atmosphere. When I listen to TT, it feels like the apocalypse is close, similar to what @End Of The World already said. It feels menacing. For me it's the perfect soundtrack to the crazy times we live in. I would love it as a single, but I doubt it, since we didn't get a lyrics video for it either. I'm pretty sure it's been played on the radio twice during some radio interviews or something, can't really remember. So maybe they're intending to release it as a single. It'd be better than RevRad as a political single, RevRad is too generic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Revrad is catchier though. The lyrics are horrible but the chorus is an earworm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Jane Lannister said: Revrad is catchier though. The lyrics are horrible but the chorus is an earworm. I don't think RevRad is catchier. I think Troubled Times is really catchy. Also, I don't think RevRad brings anything new to the table in terms of GD's sound or lyrics. TT does imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakke Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I disagree regarding Say Goodbye being emotionless. Billie singing 'oh lord have mercy on our soul' is one of the vocal highlights of the record along with 'burning lights and blackouts' and the finale of Forever Now. Troubled Times succeeds instrumentally in capturing the urgency and haunt of the terror attacks of the 2000s and 2010s, even if the lyrics could have been better. In general, RevRad is their most personal album ever, particularly if you know the quandaries they've braved in 2012 - 2014 and the madness that is 2016 on myriad levels. It's one of the reasons why 'If this is what you call the good life, I want a better way to die' is one of my favorite lyrics ever and I say that as someone who considers 21CB pure lyric porn. The way he ties together the personal and public quandaries we can relate to in Forever Now, especially the reprise of the first verse of Somewhere Now demonstrate that the sometimes deceptively simple lyrics carry a lot of punch and are the legacy of someone who's been to hell and back again and lives to tell it. That being said, I understand why some people don't like RevRad. It's clearly not AI or Dookie, it stands on its own, like Combat Rock was no Give 'Em Enough Rope and is more like a Nimrod or a Warning in Green Day's discography: a point of no return replete with sonical, emotional and thematic diversity. 21CB was also ill-received upon its release by a part of the fandom. Guess which albums are my number 2 and 4 in my Green Day top 5. 7 minutes ago, MysticManiac said: I don't think RevRad is catchier. I think Troubled Times is really catchy. Also, I don't think RevRad brings anything new to the table in terms of GD's sound or lyrics. TT does imo RevRad is a better 99 Revolutions. Billie even stated that it was a happy song that sonically throws back to the 90s. Say Goodbye has always been the political track and in my opinion its message is more universal and less shallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, Dakke said: I disagree regarding Say Goodbye being emotionless. Billie singing 'oh lord have mercy on our soul' is one of the vocal highlights of the record along with 'burning lights and blackouts' and the finale of Forever Now. Troubled Times succeeds instrumentally in capturing the urgency and haunt of the terror attacks of the 2000s and 2010s, even if the lyrics could have been better. In general, RevRad is their most personal album ever, particularly if you know the quandaries they've braved in 2012 - 2014 and the madness that is 2016 on myriad levels. It's one of the reasons why 'If this is what you call the good life, I want a better way to die' is one of my favorite lyrics ever and I say that as someone who considers 21CB pure lyric porn. The way he ties together the personal and public quandaries we can relate to in Forever Now, especially the reprise of the first verse of Somewhere Now demonstrate that the sometimes deceptively simple lyrics carry a lot of punch and are the legacy of someone who's been to hell and back again and lives to tell it. RevRad is a better 99 Revolutions. Billie even stated that it was a happy song that sonically throws back to the 90s. Say Goodbye has always been the political track and in my opinion its message is more universal and less shallow. The lyrics in TT are fantastic, except for the repetitive chorus. And I'll say this again repetition does not equal bad song. It might be the best song lyrically (or Forever Now) since 21CB Say Goodbye is another great political song. GD has to have at least one more political single from this album and it better be Say Goodbye or Troubled Times. Both are much superior to RevRad. I don't think RR is much better than 99 Revolutions, it's just as generic. They might release Forever Now as the final single just like they did with JoS for AI. I just hope they don't release OW as a single, that would be the absolute worst single choice they could possibly make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakke Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 1 minute ago, MysticManiac said: The lyrics in TT are fantastic, except for the repetitive chorus. And I'll say this again repetition does not equal bad song. It might be the best song lyrically (or Forever Now) since 21CB Say Goodbye is another great political song. GD has to have at least one more political single from this album and it better be Say Goodbye or Troubled Times. Both are much superior to RevRad. I don't think RR is much better than 99 Revolutions, it's just as generic. They might release Forever Now as the final single just like they did with JoS for AI. I just hope they don't release OW as a single, that would be the absolute worst single choice they could possibly make Fully agree about Forever Now. It's poised to become a staple on tour and it'd be more suitable as a single than Last of the American Girls. In my opinion, Say Goodbye should be the third single, Revolution Radio the fourth and Forever Now the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 40 minutes ago, MysticManiac said: I don't think RevRad is catchier. I think Troubled Times is really catchy. Also, I don't think RevRad brings anything new to the table in terms of GD's sound or lyrics. TT does imo Revrad gets stuck in my head more but that might be just me. I agree TT is more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
End Of The World Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I was thinking about what RevRad song, if any, GD will add to the concert tracklist. Besides BB, RR, SB and FN I'd like to hear Somewhere Now, TDTD and BOTW (a faster version would be great). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakke Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 1 hour ago, End Of The World said: I was thinking about what RevRad song, if any, GD will add to the concert tracklist. Besides BB, RR, SB and FN I'd like to hear Somewhere Now, TDTD and BOTW (a faster version would be great). They've already played Somewhere Now live once, so that'll be added. I'd love Outlaws and BOTW, though I woudln't complain about TDTD either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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