Stefano Bras Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, dudley dawson said: Incredibly false lol. I've been a fan since 94. Just curious, what's your favorite album of theirs? American Idiot, predictable I guess..? but the thing is a masterpiece and it was the first album I ever bought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, Spike said: The Santa Claus line is pretty baffling. I'd quite like to know what @Hermione makes of it The rest of it works, though? The reference to Somewhere Over The Rainbow ties in the cello metaphor nicely. I'm not saying it's one of Billie's better lyrics but beyond the aforementioned it's not totally nonsensical. Doesn't he sing cause. That's what I hear - that makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, Tinkle said: Doesn't he sing cause. That's what I hear - that makes sense to me. "Looking for a cause, well all I got was Santa Claus." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Spike said: The Santa Claus line is pretty baffling. I'd quite like to know what @Hermione makes of it The rest of it works, though? The reference to Somewhere Over The Rainbow ties in the cello metaphor nicely. I'm not saying it's one of Billie's better lyrics but beyond the aforementioned it's not totally nonsensical. If you are gonna defend the cello line then I'm afraid I'm never going to be able to take anything else you ever say seriously ever again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: If you are gonna defend the cello line then I'm afraid I'm never going to be able to take anything else you ever say seriously ever again I never asked you to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Spike said: "Looking for a cause, well all I got was Santa Claus." Yeah that's what I hear too but I was going by the lyrics. It doesn't improve things. I mean come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just now, Spike said: "Looking for a cause, well all I got was Santa Claus." Yeah dreaming of something. Sorry For my pathetic answer I on my phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudley dawson Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, Stefano Bras said: American Idiot, predictable I guess..? but the thing is a masterpiece and it was the first album I ever bought. And that's where you and I differ. I think every album prior to AI is superior. 5 minutes ago, Jake69 said: 8th avenue serenade is just alright. Every song on RevRad is 100x better than that. Wrong lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Bras Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 11 minutes ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: That's your interpretation and that's nice for you however Billie has given absolutely no indication that he feels his career is nearly done in any of the many interviews I've seen him do in the past few days and there remains no edges to any world I know of. The dude said that he could've easily died while doing drugs and I don't think it is too far fetched to believe that a 30 year old band can be considered at his "last moments", not being too literal tho, Green Day still has a lot to offer 9 minutes ago, dudley dawson said: Yes easily. I like Forever Now but Outlaws is very forgettable. 8 minutes ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: Yes That's sad to hear. 3 minutes ago, dudley dawson said: And that's where you and I differ. I think every album prior to AI is superior. superior to what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudley dawson Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Stefano Bras said: The dude said that he could've easily died while doing drugs and I don't think it is too far fetched to believe that a 30 year old band can be considered at his "last moments", not being too literal tho, Green Day still has a lot to offer That's sad to hear. superior to what? Superior to AI. Green Day peaked with Warning and it's been downhill ever since. I still love them but they aren't what they once were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyxLongview Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Speaking of lyrics, has anyone come up with a meaning for the 2nd verse of Somewhere Now? it makes no sense to me I got a scene in the middle of the road, i'm gonna take my time I shop online so I can vote at the speed of life I'm like a drone way up in the sky, i'm a shooting star There's a soldier that's freaking out, PS this is war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 28 minutes ago, Stefano Bras said: For me Revolution Radio is beyond good or bad, they didn't just record some songs just to keep things going (which is what I think they've been doing since the 2000's, not necessarily a bad thing tho), Revolution Radio is a love letter to their entire career and, therefore, their lives, what they've accomplished. I love it. I totally agree with it being a love letter to their career. It picks up a lot from their previous work and injects something new into it. American Idiot, 21CB, and the Trilogy were made very...professionally-minded. Which is fantastic and inspired some of the very best work of their career. They take their music seriously, and that's awesome. But RevRad comes from a different place. After hearing from all these different alter egos from Billie's psyche, after everything that has happened over the past few years, I really wanted to hear from just him. Not as a concept or a character, but just as a human being. And that's exactly what this album provides. 18 minutes ago, Stefano Bras said: I'm too lazy to answer to all that but since I've been wanting to talk about these Forever Now lyrics, I will These are one of my favourite lyrics because my interpretation is that "Standing at the edge of the world" means that Billie is realising his career is almost done, Green Day has been around since 1986 and being so close to the "edge" is freaking him out. I could elaborate more but I think they point has been made, those aren't senseless lyrics. I think this is a totally valid interpretation (most interpretations are valid when we don't know for sure, obviously!), but I look at "the edge of the world" as being what his life will be like from now on, and being scared of what lies ahead. At the same time, "burning lights and blackouts" paints me a painfully vivid picture of him looking back at his past, so I'm not sure. But I definitely view it as more personal than being about his career. His career is a big part of his life though, so I suppose it all blends together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeDirntConfused Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I feel like some of you guys look deeper into the lyrics than GD does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Bras Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, dudley dawson said: Superior to AI. Green Day peaked with Warning and it's been downhill ever since. I still love them but they aren't what they once were. Well that's not a surprise, you said that you've been a fan since 1994 so you grew up with 90's Green Day and the nostalgia will always kick in. Obviously those albums will always be more appealing to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, Stefano Bras said: The dude said that he could've easily died while doing drugs and I don't think it is too far fetched to believe that a 30 year old band can be considered at his "last moments", not being too literal tho, Green Day still has a lot to offer That's sad to hear. Well if one does conclude that Forever Now is about Billie worrying that Green Day might break up then what the hell does this line have to do with anything I'm like a punk rocker on Labor Day How the hell did I work so hard to be born this way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudley dawson Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, Stefano Bras said: Well that's not a surprise, you said that you've been a fan since 1994 so you grew up with 90's Green Day and the nostalgia will always kick in. Obviously those albums will always be more appealing to you. Yes it's partly due to nostalgia but I also believe their music was just all around stronger back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 6 minutes ago, AmyxLongview said: Speaking of lyrics, has anyone come up with a meaning for the 2nd verse of Somewhere Now? it makes no sense to me I got a scene in the middle of the road, i'm gonna take my time I shop online so I can vote at the speed of life I'm like a drone way up in the sky, i'm a shooting star There's a soldier that's freaking out, PS this is war It makes no sense. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 We wouldn't be on a Green Day fan forum if we weren't up for a bit of analyzation. Despite some nonsense here and there, I don't think Billie arbitrarily writes this stuff. The ability he has to interweave themes and lyrics and melodies throughout an album gives me the indication that he puts plenty of thought into it. And I'm a writer, I like to analyze stuff lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeDirntConfused Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I think GD peaked around AI. I really don't know how you can write a JoS to the duds of the trilogy and RevRad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Bras Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, stories and songs said: I totally agree with it being a love letter to their career. It picks up a lot from their previous work and injects something new into it. American Idiot, 21CB, and the Trilogy were made very...professionally-minded. Which is fantastic and inspired some of the very best work of their career. They take their music seriously, and that's awesome. But RevRad comes from a different place. After hearing from all these different alter egos from Billie's psyche, after everything that has happened over the past few years, I really wanted to hear from just him. Not as a concept or a character, but just as a human being. And that's exactly what this album provides. I think this is a totally valid interpretation (most interpretations are valid when we don't know for sure, obviously!), but I look at "the edge of the world" as being what his life will be like from now on, and being scared of what lies ahead. At the same time, "burning lights and blackouts" paints me a pretty vivid picture of him looking back at his past, so I'm not sure. But I definitely view it as more personal than being about his career. Totally, RevRad feels different. Certainly I can see what you mean by "it's just him", in songs like Somewhere Now, Outlaws and Forever Now you can clearly see it, and I think that's beautiful and unlike anything he's done before. Btw, I also meant that those Forever Now lyrics were about his life too, not only his career. My interpretation is that the uncertainty is driving him crazy and since he's life revolves around Green Day, he probably doesn't know what his life is going to be after that. 6 minutes ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: Well if one does conclude that Forever Now is about Billie worrying that Green Day might break up then what the hell does this line have to do with anything I never said anything about "Billie worrying that Green Day might break up", Green Day will never break up (if no one dies that is) for me it's just him worrying about the future, since he's near to the "end", this is slightly exaggerated obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Stefano Bras said: Totally, RevRad feels different. Certainly I can see what you mean by "it's just him", in songs like Somewhere Now, Outlaws and Forever Now you can clearly see it, and I think that's beautiful and unlike anything he's done before. Btw, I also meant that those Forever Now lyrics were about his life too, not only his career. My interpretation is that the uncertainty is driving him crazy and since he's life revolves around Green Day, he probably doesn't know what his life is going to be after that. Well it obviously has driven him crazy since he can't figure out how after working so hard he still ended up getting born the way he did. Bummer. "I'm like a punk rocker on Labor Day How the hell did I work so hard to be born this way?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Bras Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: Well it obviously has driven him crazy since he can't figure out how after working so hard he still ended up getting born the way he did. Bummer. "I'm like a punk rocker on Labor Day How the hell did I work so hard to be born this way?" Are you like... Seagull or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperXCsabre495 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Whenever I listen to Say Goodbye I get a chill when Mike screams out "the suffering", I just love the way it sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Stefano Bras said: Are you like... Seagull or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Is it bolt or vote btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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