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Billie's voice on Troubled Times is so good. Also love how they used the "Nightlife effect" on the chorus :P

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I actually like Too Dumb To Die. Is slowly becoming my favorite song of the album. Seems the better written, along with Bang Bang and Somewhere Now

My real problem of this album, at this point of the of my life, and the band too, is that BJ is too lazy to write a good chorus w/o making repetitive (Outlaws, Youngblood, Say Goodbye, Still Breathing, Troubled Times) I mean, there is nothing than a dictionary can't fix for making the songs better. The other part is the solos. Thinking that the trilogy gave us good chunck of guitar work, the idea is to keep the good things, not just wash them away, at least in this moment where there is no pressure to show something to someone, where you have all the time to make a good and consistent record. God, those solos on Youngblood, if can call them like that, are some of the worse ideas ever.

 

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2 hours ago, tdlyon said:

...So has anyone else not given in yet?

Me

For those interested, Metacritic has 3 review snippets up (no links yet to full reviews). 80, 70, and 60.

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3 hours ago, Clayish said:

Looking for a cause
But all I got was Santa Clause

:sick:

I love this verse.
It's just me. I was trying to fight for a cause, but there was nothing to fight for, because everything was a shit, so I just had "Santa Claus" (dreams, imagination, fantasy and illusions) to feel "repaired" from all the bad things.

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6 minutes ago, lorenovacaine said:

I love this verse.
It's just me. I was trying to fight for a cause, but there was nothing to fight for, because everything was a shit, so I just had "Santa Claus" (dreams, imagination, fantasy and illusions) to feel "repaired" from all the bad things.

You are right

3 hours ago, Clayish said:

Looking for a cause
But all I got was Santa Clause

:sick:

That's BJs song writing gift though - giving simple verse  a double meaning. 

I still need the lyric book though because I know I missing heaps.

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3 hours ago, tdlyon said:

...So has anyone else not given in yet?

I'm still waiting for Oct 7th.

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Somewhere Now has Foo Fighter vibes for sure, especially in the verses. I hear a bit of Big Me I think.

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I also feel like Say Goodbye is going to be a little gem that will stay buried in their catalogue.  I love the verse structure.

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I really like the chorus in Outlaws but the verses just drag out too long for me. And Forever Now is still a bit muddled to me...need a few more listens I think!

13 minutes ago, Second favourite son said:

I'm still waiting for Oct 7th.

I commend you. I tried having the willpower for about 2 hours and couldn't hack it :lol: 

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I really wonder how Billie destroyed the phrase "pop punk". Listen to the new Sum 41 song and you'll hear the difference.

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As I see everybody has the diverse references considering Somewhere Now, there are The Who, Sweet Child O'Mine by Guns'N'Roses, Boston, Foo Fighters.

 

For me this song is musically a big thank you for Rock'n 'Roll, to all the music Billie Joe enjoys and loves like he spoke in the Hall of Fame speech. And what I love most about it is that even having so many references it still sounds like Green Day, almost at its best. 

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Troubled Times sounds great, but musically it seems very similar to While My Guitar Gently Weeps, especially the intro. 

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One thing is sure - The STRONGEST moment in GD song for last 7 damn years is this part: 

 

Hallelujiah! I found my soul
Under the sofa pillows
Congratulations, I found myself
Somewhere now

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13 minutes ago, Metadon said:

One thing is sure - The STRONGEST moment in GD song for last 7 damn years is this part: 

 

Hallelujiah! I found my soul
Under the sofa pillows
Congratulations, I found myself
Somewhere now

Classic example of BJ's gift - I mean "under the sofa pillows" you would think that is so lame - BUT.... its genius.

1 hour ago, Jenn. said:

I really like the chorus in Outlaws but the verses just drag out too long for me. And Forever Now is still a bit muddled to me...need a few more listens I think!

I commend you. I tried having the willpower for about 2 hours and couldn't hack it :lol: 

I lasted 20 minutes that bitch @Scattered Wreck made me to it.  

I still am a little ashamed of myself.

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1 minute ago, Tinkle said:

Classic example of BJ's gift - I mean "under the sofa pillows" you would think that is so lame - BUT.... its genius.

Exactly! I know that from myself, In the hardest situations I really feel my soul, my original soul. BJ knows that feeling very well I suppose

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1 minute ago, Metadon said:

Exactly! I know that from myself, In the hardest situations I really feel my soul, my original soul. BJ knows that feeling very well I suppose

I think also even if you havent suffered an addiction - everybody has experienced dark days when you are lying on the couch for days & at some moment you say fuck it I gotta sake this off.

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2 minutes ago, Tinkle said:

I think also even if you havent suffered an addiction - everybody has experienced dark days when you are lying on the couch for days & at some moment you say fuck it I gotta sake this off.

Yeah that's very good explanation. Thanks for mind expansion! :) Also think that BJ must be difficult personality

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Just now, Metadon said:

Yeah that's very good explanation. Thanks for mind expansion! :) 

Well Im always looking for a cause but I usually just get santa clause:sorry:

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18 minutes ago, Tinkle said:

Classic example of BJ's gift - I mean "under the sofa pillows" you would think that is so lame - BUT.... its genius.

I lasted 20 minutes that bitch @Scattered Wreck made me to it.  

I still am a little ashamed of myself.

I don't make you do anything, you follow a natural leader.

Over hear, I guess there is another common kind of joke that you always lose things in the sofa pillows.  You pull your pillows up and you will find change, guitar picks, the remote control etc.  It is a common place to find things.  I think what he meant by I find my sould under the sofa pillows is that the was so far gone, but it was easy to find his way back if you looked in the right place

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1 minute ago, Scattered Wreck said:

I don't make you do anything, you follow a natural leader.

Over hear, I guess there is another common kind of joke that you always lose things in the sofa pillows.  You pull your pillows up and you will find change, guitar picks, the remote control etc.  It is a common place to find things.  I think what he meant by I find my sould under the sofa pillows is that the was so far gone, but it was easy to find his way back if you looked in the right place

It just fantastic that we can now have actual discussions about his lyrics once again.:happyhands:

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If anyone else wrote an album with these lyrics they'd be hailed geniuses, expectations from Billie from us are a little bit silly.

As far I can see most people like the lyrics though, it's not really worth picking certain lines out. There's some clever shit and some funny shit. I fucking LOVE this man.

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5 hours ago, stories and songs said:

I actually get sad when I reach the end, because it goes by so fast. THAT is the sign of a good album, folks.

That's the saddest thing about the album for me. I really hope they release more albums as good as this from now on. Hopefully a little longer next time though :P

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2 minutes ago, RisingRedWolf said:

That's the saddest thing about the album for me. I really hope they release more albums as good as this from now on. Hopefully a little longer next time though :P

About 21CB length.

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