Tubbie Head Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 21 minutes ago, JJ1964 said: That is the part that bothers me. I love the fast guitars and raw sound, but they can still do that with a higher level musically. They have done that and I my hope was that they would continue. If they have gone back to nothing but 3 chord power chord songs, with nothing extra, I will have to follow through on my prediction and become a Biffy fan. However, I am trying to think positively and remember it was one persons assessment and hold out judgement until I hear it for myself. Wtf Like Biffy Clyro aren't more complex than Green Day ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE THE X-KID Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Biffy write some of the most complex, imaginative songs you could think of. listen to their first three albums before they got big. Especially Vertigo of bliss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleIron1039 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 6 minutes ago, Billie Hoe said: My friend is a metal fan and she said it's scream, not that it matters Take Back is one of my favorites. It's so refreshingly different. What is "scream"? Did you mean "screamo"? If so, that's an emo or punk subgenre, I believe. Metal has screaming vocals sometimes but there's not a metal subgenre named after it, to the best of my knowledge. I want to hear Billie do death growls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercali_swagilistic Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, Billie Hoe said: My friend is a metal fan and she said it's scream, not that it matters Take Back is one of my favorites. It's so refreshingly different. yall can practise your growling skills here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 13 minutes ago, Jesus of Seneca said: When they were 25 they made Nimrod. I'd say that was one diverse record. OK, 22 sorry messed up the age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Seagull Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, Supercali_swagilistic said: yall can practise your growling skills here: I'll give this to my dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercali_swagilistic Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Just now, Steven Seagull said: I'll give this to my dog maybe you prefere this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Bras Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 31 minutes ago, JJ1964 said: I am not going to a Biffy show, no one has any clue who they are here. Biffy Clyro? They're headlining fucking Reading & Leeds Festival, I find hard to believe that "no one has any clue" of who they are here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatlesdude Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I just cant wait for a Jeff Matika solo album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Hoe Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 1 minute ago, Beatlesdude said: I just cant wait for a Jeff Matika solo album ? wrong thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonArk Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I think that "Bang Bang" review might need to be taken with a grain of salt, because I can't even count the number of times a new Green Day song/album has been likened to Dookie or early Green Day at this point. Hell, wasn't it RollingStone magazine or someone that said Know Your Enemy sounds like it could've been a leftover from Dookie? Honestly, I was kind of hoping they would go in a new direction at this point, because I really don't want another attempt at them recapturing their youth if we end up getting trilogy level songwriting/production in this case (which is what it often times felt like GD were trying to do with the trilogy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarcasm Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 3 hours ago, 21guns&novacaine said: I read in an article a little bit ago that the DJ said it was a lot like 'old Green Day'. I'm kinda hesitant now, because the last time Green Day attempted to go back to their roots, we ended up with the trilogy. The trilogy, although the songs not bad, the overly sexual, drug and alcohol ridden lyrics and videos felt more like a mid-life crisis for the band. When they start from scratch and take an entirely new direction, that's when they're at their best, not feeding into what people expect them to sound like, complaining that they want old Green Day back. I think it pressures the band a bit to try to incorporate their old sounds and styles to the current generation of rock, just to appeal all age groups listening to them. "old Green Day" is such a weird term. Most of the time it refers to Dookie from 1994, but isn't Insomniac, Nimrod and Warning also "old"? I mean it's been 16 years since Warning came out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 10 minutes ago, StefanoBras said: Biffy Clyro? They're headlining fucking Reading & Leeds Festival, I find hard to believe that "no one has any clue" of who they are here. They have zero presence in the US, and I mean zero. Their records are not played on the radio and they don't tour here, ever. I only heard of them through this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakke Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 1 minute ago, Sarcasm said: "old Green Day" is such a weird term. Most of the time it refers to Dookie from 1994, but isn't Insomniac, Nimrod and Warning also "old"? I mean it's been 16 years since Warning came out It mostly refers to pre-AI Green Day, though one could dispute whether Warning is part of that 'old' era since it differs so much from all previous records. Then again, I think this division in 'old' and 'new' Green Day is more stringent than necessary sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleIron1039 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 13 minutes ago, JJ1964 said: They have zero presence in the US, and I mean zero. Their records are not played on the radio and they don't tour here, ever. I only heard of them through this forum. I'm American, and there are a sizable amount of kids at my school who like the band.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 17 minutes ago, JJ1964 said: They have zero presence in the US, and I mean zero. Their records are not played on the radio and they don't tour here, ever. I only heard of them through this forum. Pretty much this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonArk Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I just want them to experiment more with song structure, instrumental arrangements, guitar tones, or SOMETHING with this new album. I don't think I could take another album featuring solely guitar, drums and bass with the same song structures and the same guitar tones on every track. Especially considering the fact it's been 4 years lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, PurpleIron1039 said: I'm American, and there are a sizable amount of kids at my school who like the band.... I have never heard them on the radio and I don't know anyone that has ever heard of them other than this forum. They are not played on the radio in the NY market and that is a pretty big market 2 minutes ago, CrimsonArk said: I just want them to experiment more with song structure, instrumental arrangements, guitar tones, or SOMETHING with this new album. I don't think I could take another album featuring solely guitar, drums and bass with the same song structures and the same guitar tones on every track. Especially considering the fact it's been 4 years lol This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
localinsomniac Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 This thread is funny. I don't know if I'll like the song but from the things I've heard about it, I'm pretty optimistic. I avoided Oh Love until UNO was out. That turned out to be a mistake, since I didn't care much for the album. Won't let that happen again. Can't wait to hear this track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakke Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, CrimsonArk said: I just want them to experiment more with song structure, instrumental arrangements, guitar tones, or SOMETHING with this new album. I don't think I could take another album featuring solely guitar, drums and bass with the same song structures and the same guitar tones on every track. Especially considering the fact it's been 4 years lol Yeah. 21CB was the last album to have this variety. Every song diverged from the traditional verse-chorus-verse-bridge-chorus-chorus framework and every song sounded different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Private Ale. Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 if people actually said Know Your Enemy sounds like dookie ,that's so funny. But as @Brooklyn Baby stated this guy gives some song examples ,that's very promising .Especially "Chump" . seems like he knows what he is talking about. "rawness" of 39/smooth makes me excited. I had some worries but now i'm actually happier thanks to the reviewer . Hopefully he is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin1 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 11 minutes ago, Dakke said: It mostly refers to pre-AI Green Day, though one could dispute whether Warning is part of that 'old' era since it differs so much from all previous records. Then again, I think this division in 'old' and 'new' Green Day is more stringent than necessary sometimes. Well said. I've always thought of Warning as the definition of a 'transition' album. A perfect example a band going from a narrow minded rock stars with set sounds and ideas to realizing they're adults and really fucking good song writers that can write and sing about whatever the hell they feel like 🙂 AI and 21st CB were works of art from guys who knew exactly who they were, what they were doing and had nothing to prove, but still wanted to be the best at their craft. I've always been torn about the Trilogy was because no matter how much people say they don't like it, you can't go a few posts before seeing the word 'trilogy', so clearly it had a massive impact.. Whatever that impact was. I still have a weird feeling that was a more epic time/idea in their career than people think.. I know I loved it! If I were to guess about what kind of impact this album will have, I'd say the same as Warning.. Maybe a transition record back out of that type of manic headspace Billie was in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, Jake69 said: Remember Ronnie Blake, or whatever his name is, recording horns for the album. I don't get the negativity. I'm really excited for this album. I totally forgot about that. That makes me feel a bit better. Thanks dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suspendedskies Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Just remembered something that put things into perspective. The first time i heard Know Your Enemy, I was kinda disappointed and nervous for what the album would sound like. But 21CB is one of my favourite albums. The lead single doesn't necessarily speak to the rest of the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakke Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 11 minutes ago, Justin1 said: Well said. I've always thought of Warning as the definition of a 'transition' album. A perfect example a band going from a narrow minded rock stars with set sounds and ideas to realizing they're adults and really fucking good song writers that can write and sing about whatever the hell they feel like 🙂 AI and 21st CB were works of art from guys who knew exactly who they were, what they were doing and had nothing to prove, but still wanted to be the best at their craft. I've always been torn about the Trilogy was because no matter how much people say they don't like it, you can't go a few posts before seeing the word 'trilogy', so clearly it had a massive impact.. Whatever that impact was. I still have a weird feeling that was a more epic time/idea in their career than people think.. I know I loved it! If I were to guess about what kind of impact this album will have, I'd say the same as Warning.. Maybe a transition record back out of that type of manic headspace Billie was in. I've always wanted to consider the Trilogy as a kind of Warning-like album, but then it is too much of a failed throwback to the Lookout-era simplicity and '70s inspirations rather than an evolution like Warning was. Sonically it disappointed I think because that simplicity was too artificial in the power chords and the horrible vocal filters. It didn't feel 'honest'. It lacked passion and emotion and quantity prevailed over quality. At least Warning had no filler or meaningless tracks like Dos! did. I personally assume that for the band 12 will be a new beginning like AI was, whilst being sonically more of a Warning-style evolution than a revolution. I think we'll only after hearing the entire album multiple times and letting it soak in be able to gauge where the band is headed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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