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Role of Jeff Matika and other touring members


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3 minutes ago, DookieLukie said:

Isn't that the age of most people on here? If not, it's surely their maturity level.

 

:lol:

My theory is that Green Day makes adults act like 11 year old's because some of us were 11 when we got into Green Day and we default to that mode when we're excited about them. That still doesn't explain getting bent out of shape over touring members, but hey. It's a theory.

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Do we really need to be so snarky people? 

the majority of people on here are having a civilised discussion, but some feel the need to put others down. 

we are all here because we love a band, can we not just have a discussion without having to make comments about people's maturity levels etc? 

 

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9 minutes ago, Lizzie Atwell said:

Do we really need to be so snarky people? 

the majority of people on here are having a civilised discussion, but some feel the need to put others down. 

we are all here because we love a band, can we not just have a discussion without having to make comments about people's maturity levels etc? 

 

Welcome to GDC

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2 minutes ago, Khaleesi. said:

Welcome to GDC

lol

this is why I stopped coming on several years ago, had hoped it had calmed down a bit...

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Just now, Lizzie Atwell said:

lol

this is why I stopped coming on several years ago, had hoped it had calmed down a bit...

when it comes to GD it won't calm down :lol: 

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1 minute ago, Lizzie Atwell said:

lol

this is why I stopped coming on several years ago, had hoped it had calmed down a bit...

It actually had, until the news broke and the forum got flooded with people who aren't used to the forum culture :blink:

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2 hours ago, StefanoBras said:

Nah, probably he's a nice bloke. But disposable? yeah.

I don't see a reason for them to get rid of him at all. Mike and Tre are also disposable. Tre isn't even close to providing top-tier drumming compared to a lot of other bands in the same genre, and Mike's vocals are only ok. As for Jason, there is millions of people who can play what he plays as good or better than he can, but they don't "dispose" of people because they don't want to. 

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1 minute ago, Sarcasm said:

 

I don't see a reason for them to get rid of him at all. Mike and Tre are also disposable. Tre isn't even close to providing top-tier drumming compared to a lot of other bands in the same genre, and Mike's vocals are only ok. As for Jason, there is millions of people who can play what he plays as good or better than he can, but they don't "dispose" of people because they don't want to. 

a band is greater than the sum of it's parts, though. 

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1 minute ago, Brooklyn Baby said:

It actually had, until the news broke and the forum got flooded with people who aren't used to the forum culture :blink:

It actually had, until the news broke and the forum got flooded with people who aren't used to the forum culture :blink:

I think it's unfair to blame people who 'aren't used to the forum culture' 

no one should have to take crap for expressing their opinion whether new or old. 

i don't think that it should be expected to take insults as its part of 'forum culture' 

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14 minutes ago, Sarcasm said:

 

I don't see a reason for them to get rid of him at all. Mike and Tre are also disposable. Tre isn't even close to providing top-tier drumming compared to a lot of other bands in the same genre, and Mike's vocals are only ok. As for Jason, there is millions of people who can play what he plays as good or better than he can, but they don't "dispose" of people because they don't want to. 

I said disposable.

I'm not saying they should get rid of him, I just said they could and that would be fine.

Tre and Mike are not disposable, they are the core members of the group alongside Billie and it's not only about the talent really, it just wouldn't be the same.

Btw, I don't know about the others, but I'm not bitching about Jeff. I'm just giving my opinion on a (I think) legitimately good topic to talk about.

All these members trying to put themselves above everyone else with their obnoxious comments it's not a new thing in GDC.. it's time to stop.

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32 minutes ago, Brooklyn Baby said:

It actually had, until the news broke and the forum got flooded with people who aren't used to the forum culture :blink:

We need conversion therapy 

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53 minutes ago, StefanoBras said:

I said disposable.

I'm not saying they should get rid of him, I just said they could and that would be fine.

Tre and Mike are not disposable, they are the core members of the group alongside Billie and it's not only about the talent really, it just wouldn't be the same.

Btw, I don't know about the others, but I'm not bitching about Jeff. I'm just giving my opinion on a (I think) legitimately good topic to talk about.

All these members trying to put themselves above everyone else with their obnoxious comments it's not a new thing in GDC.. it's time to stop.

it sounds like you're bitching about Jeff and then attempting to justify it by holding up the "it's just my opinion" internet-shield. 

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1 hour ago, StefanoBras said:

All these members trying to put themselves above everyone else with their obnoxious comments it's not a new thing in GDC.. it's time to stop.

i don't disagree with you. People start feeling too entitled and too easily shit on other members. Similarly to what you're doing. 

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Jeff's cute but the world wouldn't end if he wasn't in the touring group anymore. 

Completely off topic, I know, but  I'll be the one to say, I think Billie Joe's piano playing sounds nicer and more musical than Jason Freese's. 

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1 hour ago, Jake69 said:

I don't really see the reason for him touring with the band. I think 2 guitarist are enough.

Is that Dave Grohl in your profile picture?

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Just now, Jake69 said:

yup. why?

Just wondering how you feel about Foo Fighters having 3 guitarists? :P

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5 minutes ago, Jake69 said:

Foo Fighters songs are a lot more complicated to play than Green Day. Foo Fighters NEED 3 guitarist. Green Day, not to much. 

:lol: :lol:

 

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2 minutes ago, Jake69 said:

whats so funny? 

They didn't need 3 for their first 6 albums. That's a lot of songs they play live where they did not need 3 guitarists. But they do because it gives a fuller sound. No different to Green Day adding an extra guitarist for their live sound.

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8 minutes ago, Jake69 said:

Foo Fighters songs are a lot more complicated to play than Green Day. Foo Fighters NEED 3 guitarist. Green Day, not so much. 

That was funny as hell.  Thanks for the laugh:lol:

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5 minutes ago, Jake69 said:

if you look at their tab books, they need 3 guitarist. there is always 3-4 guitar parts. 

 

:fuckyou:

Aw thanks, I love you too.

Not all their songs are written for 3 guitarists and even if they are, it doesn't mean the songs are complicated.  It just means they are using 3 guitarists.  The piece parts are normally very simple.  GD is not hard to play either, but their later stuff can be a bit tricky, the Foos, not so much.  Plus, GD is a hell of alot more fun to play.

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8 minutes ago, Jake69 said:

if you look at their tab books, they need 3 guitarist. there is always 3-4 guitar parts. 

Are you sure it's not because Pat Smear realised he wanted to come back. If Pat didn't want to come back there would not have been someone else added. 

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How come Mike and Tre sometimes don't get the same love from fans as Billie does . It always feels like a one man show effect with Mike and Tre part of the " house band ' with the big three . 

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1 minute ago, ElectricBlue said:

How come Mike and Tre sometimes don't get the same love from fans as Billie does . It always feels like a one man show effect with Mike and Tre part of the " house band ' with the big three . 

Lead singer and song writer will get more attention no matter what band. Tre and Mike definitely get more love that the touring members.

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I think it's fair to say most lead singers get more attention than other band members. It's definitely not unique to Green Day. Personally I think Billie's strengths are in songwriting and performing and that Mike and Tre are better musicians. 

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1 hour ago, StefanoBras said:

Btw, I don't know about the others, but I'm not bitching about Jeff. I'm just giving my opinion on a (I think) legitimately good topic to talk about.

 

Nah I didn't mean just questioning what he adds to the band. I mean the thing where people act like he's above himself and make generally snide comments about him, when all he's done is make a couple of slightly snarky jokes all in good fun on twitter and his sense of humour doesn't seem any "worse" than the other band members'. I also see snarkiness about both Jasons which I see absolutely no reason for. No idea what started it off and it irritates me :P 

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