Green Day in the studio 2016

[Sanity Loan]

Assuming Jason's comments are correct in that the band will be rehearsing all summer, I'm guessing album won't come out until August or September. Marketing wise, I'm sure they won't want to start touring too long after release.

So, my guess at a first single would be early July. And, since July 4th is a Monday, I wouldn't be surprised if it came on the 4th or 5th, especially if it's a political song or about the US.

As they're rehearsing all summer, I can see doing TV performances as single and album promo.

Finally, I don't see this happening but I wouldn't be surprised if they release a song for Record Store Day next month if they're done recording in time. Doesn't take too long to mix and master one track.

[DoodleBob]

19 minutes ago, Matt. said:

As they're rehearsing all summer, I can see doing TV performances as single and album promo.

Hopefully we'll get the Ellen performance that was supposed to happen in 2012! (with better different music, of course)

[WhiteTim]

29 minutes ago, Matt. said:

Assuming Jason's comments are correct in that the band will be rehearsing all summer, I'm guessing album won't come out until August or September. Marketing wise, I'm sure they won't want to start touring too long after release.

So, my guess at a first single would be early July. And, since July 4th is a Monday, I wouldn't be surprised if it came on the 4th or 5th, especially if it's a political song or about the US.

As they're rehearsing all summer, I can see doing TV performances as single and album promo.

Finally, I don't see this happening but I wouldn't be surprised if they release a song for Record Store Day next month if they're done recording in time. Doesn't take too long to mix and master one track.

Won't be all RSD have been locked in deadline for submissions was the 29th if RSD made an exception for GD so many labels would balk 

[Chin for a Day]

3 minutes ago, WhiteTim said:

Won't be all RSD have been locked in deadline for submissions was the 29th if RSD made an exception for GD so many labels would balk 

They could have finished one song first just to make the deadline.  I know it's a stretch, but I need some hope for something sooner. 

[That Dude]

6 hours ago, JJ1964 said:

6 hours ago, Paola17 said:

That show would have been amazing to go to.
Sadly, not only was I 13 at the time, but I would have arrived back from being outside the country a few hrs prior to the Holmdel show (which I don't even think is accessible via public transportation).

Can we just have a show in which Green Day simply plays the entire night? No openers or anything? That'd be great.

This.

Yeah, that's the problem for openers.  90 percent of the crowd is there for the headliners, so even if it's a great band, they are sort just passing the time until the main attraction.   And Billie could finally make up for all the songs that I Heart Radio wouldn't give them the time to play (haha!)  Green Day could easily pull off a great 4 hour show.  Make it epic.  Every single (that's 48 songs right there), sprinkle in the fan favorites, rarities and new songs (from the new album they are recording in the studio this year.  gotta stay on topic)  .....it would be an amazing night. 

[WhiteTim]

41 minutes ago, thatdude03 said:

Yeah, that's the problem for openers.  90 percent of the crowd is there for the headliners, so even if it's a great band, they are sort just passing the time until the main attraction.   And Billie could finally make up for all the songs that I Heart Radio wouldn't give them the time to play (haha!)  Green Day could easily pull off a great 4 hour show.  Make it epic.  Every single (that's 48 songs right there), sprinkle in the fan favorites, rarities and new songs (from the new album they are recording in the studio this year.  gotta stay on topic)  .....it would be an amazing night. 

Umm they played their full set at Iheart they were given 30 mins and they played 30 mins 

[GenXIdiot]

Hell, make it a nine hour gig and they can play through every record, front to back, end to end. I'm sure Billie's up to the challenge.

[WhiteTim]

5 minutes ago, GenXIdiot said:

Hell, make it a nine hour gig and they can play through every record, front to back, end to end. I'm sure Billie's up to the challenge.

Billie would forget 85% of the songs lol 

[Chin for a Day]

7 minutes ago, WhiteTim said:

Billie would forget 85% of the songs lol 

He would just replace them with Hey OH's

[GenXIdiot]

1 minute ago, JJ1964 said:

He would just replace them with Hey OH's

That's fine with me.

[ElmoGreenDay]

Does anyone else feel like Jasons "slip up" was a tad too detailed? I feel it may have been intended to get us curious and excited on a rumour. Like a subtle way of saying "we are back bitches"  but got Jason to do it to make it look like a slip up. Sorry for the rambling 

[Siddharth_471]

I found this article from Billie Joe's Equipment thread (thanks to @Ham Pascale) 

This may not be the complete article but I find it interesting because we all know that Nimrod was overall an experimental album and it's been told that many of the songs even date back before Dookie sessions which means that they didn't went to studio to make it experimental but already wrote those songs before that. I think that many of Trilogy songs would have been written during 21stCB but they reserved them for future sessions. Anther thing to note are solos which everyone complaints about, they definitely don't make too much long solos but make it with more melodic approach (they were extended only in 39/Smooth and Kerplunk). Around 40 songs were written before Nimrod which means even more songs have been written for this new album if they were active for a long. In last paragraph it is written that they will make their next step keeping in mind their previous mistakes. Though the next album after it was warning (which was even more different than Nimrod itself) but don't forget that after Warning it was American Idiot! Warning was released when Nu Metal and Rap became popular and they were waiting for the right time to release it, I think we can come to know about the new album anytime soon as they are just waiting for the right time to release it, if they wanted they would have went right after Hall Of Fame but it wasn't the right time. So at this time there's no sign of punk rock in today's music so they are definitely waiting to release it and bring back punk rock again with their new hardcore punk album.

[Ham Pascale]

3 hours ago, Siddharth_471 said:

This may not be the complete article but I find it interesting because we all know that Nimrod was overall an experimental album and it's been told that many of the songs even date back before Dookie sessions which means that they didn't went to studio to make it experimental but already wrote those songs before that.

Here's the complete article - http://greenday-scans.tumblr.com/post/85291394977/total-guitar-december-1997-i-remember-this-like

3 hours ago, Siddharth_471 said:

This may not be the complete article but I find it interesting because we all know that Nimrod was overall an experimental album and it's been told that many of the songs even date back before Dookie sessions which means that they didn't went to studio to make it experimental but already wrote those songs before that.

Nimrod was, to quote Tim Quirk, "the band has basically just recorded another fourteen Green Day songs, then tossed in four selections that try to do something a little different, to wit: one acoustic ballad, one surf-y instrumental, one song that kind of swings and has a violin at the beginning, and one song with a harmonica". And, yes, Haushinka, Good Riddance, Scattered were written during or before Dookie era.

3 hours ago, Siddharth_471 said:

I think that many of Trilogy songs would have been written during 21stCB but they reserved them for future sessions. Anther thing to note are solos which everyone complaints about, they definitely don't make too much long solos but make it with more melodic approach (they were extended only in 39/Smooth and Kerplunk).

Trilogy had A LOT of lame extended, guitar wank type solos. I think there is no place for any kind of solos in Green Day's music. The only thing solos, in their vast majority, could possibly showcase is how self indulgent the guitarist is.

And Green Day were always melodic, even on Insomniac. A lot of people seem to forget that. 

3 hours ago, Siddharth_471 said:

Though the next album after it was warning (which was even more different than Nimrod itself) but don't forget that after Warning it was American Idiot! Warning was released when Nu Metal and Rap became popular and they were waiting for the right time to release it, I think we can come to know about the new album anytime soon as they are just waiting for the right time to release it, if they wanted they would have went right after Hall Of Fame but it wasn't the right time.

Warning was recorded from March to April 2000 and released in October 2000. I think they didn't wait for the right, but just dropped it when it was ready. Besides, Billie Joe hated nu-metal and some certain rappers - he was more than quick to slag off (and while it was pretty unpleasant, I do 100% agree with him) Slipknot, Limp Bizkit and Eminem. Warning might have been meant as a huge "fuck you" to heavy, uber-masculine, dumb jock type music.

Also, before HOF Green Day was just demoing. You can't really announce a new album if you only have five songs that may not even make it to the initial record.

3 hours ago, Siddharth_471 said:

So at this time there's no sign of punk rock in today's music so they are definitely waiting to release it and bring back punk rock again with their new hardcore punk album.

Ughhhh...  There is punk in today's music. You just have to dig deeper than 5SOS and other crap John Feldmann currently produces. If you're not willing to search for more obscure bands to uncover a gold nugget, it's your own fault. 

Green Day's music was never even punk rock, let alone hardcore punk - on the contrary, they were known to be very, very poppy. Besides, punk movement (or any type of music to begin with) was never/shouldn't be about how hard and heavy your music is.

[Siddharth_471]

1 hour ago, Ham Pascale said:

Warning was recorded from March to April 2000 and released in October 2000. I think they didn't wait for the right, but just dropped it when it was ready. Besides, Billie Joe hated nu-metal and some certain rappers - he was more than quick to slag off (and while it was pretty unpleasant, I do 100% agree with him) Slipknot, Limp Bizkit and Eminem. Warning might have been meant as a huge "fuck you" to heavy, uber-masculine, dumb jock type music.

Also, before HOF Green Day was just demoing. You can't really announce a new album if you only have five songs that may not even make it to the initial record

I was saying all that according to what the article was saying. Well they didn't released it with those of Nu Metal bands but their release happened to be in such a time when their music was mostly unique to those of others during that time. Hence it'd 've been come into light due being different but unfortunately couldn't.

After HOF they said that they will have their time, if they wanted album would have been released on Sept./Oct. of previous year but they didn't which surely means they will have everything planned and will be out in right time.

2 hours ago, Ham Pascale said:

Ughhhh...  There is punk in today's music. You just have to dig deeper than 5SOS and other crap John Feldmann currently produces. If you're not willing to search for more obscure bands to uncover a gold nugget, it's your own fault. 

Green Day's music was never even punk rock, let alone hardcore punk - on the contrary, they were known to be very, very poppy. Besides, punk movement (or any type of music to begin with) was never/shouldn't be about how hard and heavy your music is.

No it's not my fault just because I don't live in US or UK and here there is no punk scene so how will I did those underground bands.

Green Day's music was never even Power/Garage Punk but didn't they did it in the trilogy. So why can't they make it more like hardcore or even punk this time?

[Ham Pascale]

2 hours ago, Siddharth_471 said:

I was saying all that according to what the article was saying. Well they didn't released it with those of Nu Metal bands but their release happened to be in such a time when their music was mostly unique to those of others during that time. Hence it'd 've been come into light due being different but unfortunately couldn't.

After HOF they said that they will have their time, if they wanted album would have been released on Sept./Oct. of previous year but they didn't which surely means they will have everything planned and will be out in right time.

No it's not my fault just because I don't live in US or UK and here there is no punk scene so how will I did those underground bands.

Green Day's music was never even Power/Garage Punk but didn't they did it in the trilogy. So why can't they make it more like hardcore or even punk this time?

Green Day never try to fit in the current music climate. When people expected Dookie part two, they release Insomniac, when people expect a punker album, they release Warning. That's what is so great about them.

Well, you do have the internet, don't you? Explore!

[Siddharth_471]

8 minutes ago, Ham Pascale said:

Green Day never try to fit in the current music climate. When people expected Dookie part two, they release Insomniac, when people expect a punker album, they release Warning. That's what is so great about them.

This is what I'm exactly trying to say. That "right time" doesn't mean what current music climate wants it's exactly the reverse of it and it is through which we got American Idiot.

 

12 minutes ago, Ham Pascale said:

Well, you do have the internet, don't you? Explore!

It was the internet through which I explored Ramones, Pistols, The Clash, Black Flag, Bad Brains (not only punk bands but all other bands too) and most importantly Green Day  

[Chin for a Day]

2 hours ago, Ham Pascale said:

Green Day never try to fit in the current music climate. When people expected Dookie part two, they release Insomniac, when people expect a punker album, they release Warning. That's what is so great about them.

 

INsomniac pretty much was Dookie part 2, it just had a harder edge to it.  There was nothing musically differnet from Dookie.  The started to branch out in Nimrod, adding violins and focusing on more adult themes

[GenXIdiot]

14 minutes ago, JJ1964 said:

INsomniac pretty much was Dookie part 2, it just had a harder edge to it.  There was nothing musically differnet from Dookie.  The started to branch out in Nimrod, adding violins and focusing on more adult themes

Yeah I'm on an Insomniac binge this weekend..I agree it's  Dookie part 2 musically, with a harder edge to the sound;  however I think the adult themes begin to creep in on Insomniac.   Billie's lyrics became more dark and expansive in a lot of the songs. It's a great snap shot of  his experience growing up; his world is getting bigger, he' losing his innocence, and the pessimism sets in, maybe because of unresolved childhood demons and unfulfilled romantic relationships.  But it's always tempered with the great thread of self-effacing humor that remains true in every Green Day album.

[Chin for a Day]

19 minutes ago, GenXIdiot said:

Yeah I'm on an Insomniac binge this weekend..I agree it's  Dookie part 2 musically, with a harder edge to the sound;  however I think the adult themes begin to creep in on Insomniac.   Billie's lyrics became more dark and expansive in a lot of the songs. It's a great snap shot of  his experience growing up; his world is getting bigger, he' losing his innocence, and the pessimism sets in, maybe because of unresolved childhood demons and unfulfilled romantic relationships.  But it's always tempered with the great thread of self-effacing humor that remains true in every Green Day album.

I always thought there wasn't any growth from Dookie to insomniac but I see what you are saying about the lyrics.  The lyrics on Dookie were good, but very straight forward.  "You can't go forcing something if it's just not right"  on insomniac the start to be more poetic, such as describing insomnia as "my eyes feel like they're gonna bleed".  So yes, I see the lyrical growth.  However musically they are still 3 or 4 chord power chord songs.  I'm not a big fan of insomniac mostly because I think it is his worst album vocally.  He sounds like the teacher from peanuts. 

It will be interesting to look at each album and see where the growth is.  I know he used alot of key changes and substitution chords on ai and he used the harmonic scale on 21cb

[GenXIdiot]

3 minutes ago, JJ1964 said:

I always thought there wasn't any growth from Dookie to insomniac but I see what you are saying about the lyrics.  The lyrics on Dookie were good, but very straight forward.  "You can't go forcing something if it's just not right"  on insomniac the start to be more poetic, such as describing insomnia as "my eyes feel like they're gonna bleed".  So yes, I see the lyrical growth.  However musically they are still 3 or 4 chord power chord songs.  I'm not a big fan of insomniac mostly because I think it is his worst album vocally.  He sounds like the teacher from peanuts. 

It will be interesting to look at each album and see where the growth is.  I know he used alot of key changes and substitution chords on ai and he used the harmonic scale on 21cb

You're right about his singing, it's still his boy voice, and I think it's buried to far back in the mix. AI was much more musically sophisticated, that's why it caught my ear when a student played it for me back in 2005...I heard a lot going on there and bought the CD for myself and got hooked forever!  And now I am older and wiser and I appreciate all that came before it as well.  I can't wait for what's next.

OK, Billie Joe, time to post another picture of the studio because we're just sitting here, waiting for new clues on this thread!!!

[sara_gd]

Billie Joe posted on Instagram a week ago a Bette Midler quote that is exactly what American idiot is about. This makes me think that if BJ is identifying with the quote at this present moment, he has to be writing "about" politics (at least to the extent that American Idiot was about politics). With a more recent post about the execution of muslims to "raise awareness", it's clear to me that he wants to show the world what he is writing. Besides all his political Instagram posts, I believe that these two, that show that he's currently thinking about the stuff he wrote for American Idiot and his desire to speak out loud about these issues, are clear indicators that we're going to have the issues included in the album. 

The quote in case you are wondering: "I haven't left my house in days, and I watch the news incessantly. All the news stories are about the elections, and all the commercials are for viagra and cialis. Election, erection, election, erection... Either way we're getting fucked!" - Bette Midler. 

[Beerjeezus]

I wonder what my opinions on this band would be if I strongly disagreed with his views.

1 hour ago, JJ1964 said:

I find interesting that you chose "my eyes feel like they're gonna bleed" as an example of more poetic writing. I have always seen it as a pretty straightforward line - your eyes get dry when you can't sleep. I remember feeling like my eyes were literally gonna bleed. 

[Siddharth_471]

1 hour ago, JJ1964 said:

The lyrics on Dookie were good, but very straight forward.  "You can't go forcing something if it's just not right"  on insomniac the start to be more poetic, such as describing insomnia as "my eyes feel like they're gonna bleed".  So yes, I see the lyrical growth.  However musically they are still 3 or 4 chord power chord songs.  I'm not a big fan of insomniac mostly because I think it is his worst album vocally.

Well, at first I was not a fan of Insomniac either but surely there is growth both lyrically and musically. If you see Insomniac is no less straight-forward than Dookie. Dookie was more in a personal sense but c'mon you cannot be more straight-forward than directly saying "There's no return from 86, don't even try" to that same punk scene which restricted them playing there for signing to reprise. Vocals were also just as good as Dookie.

 

30 minutes ago, sara_gd said:

Billie Joe posted on Instagram a week ago a Bette Midler quote that is exactly what American idiot is about. This makes me think that if BJ is identifying with the quote at this present moment, he has to be writing "about" politics (at least to the extent that American Idiot was about politics). With a more recent post about the execution of muslims to "raise awareness", it's clear to me that he wants to show the world what he is writing. Besides all his political Instagram posts, I believe that these two, that show that he's currently thinking about the stuff he wrote for American Idiot and his desire to speak out loud about these issues, are clear indicators that we're going to have the issues included in the album. 

The quote in case you are wondering: "I haven't left my house in days, and I watch the news incessantly. All the news stories are about the elections, and all the commercials are for viagra and cialis. Election, erection, election, erection... Either way we're getting fucked!" - Bette Midler. 

I like how he's sharing his thoughts with people through social websites. They also expressed many ideas during AI and one more recent tweet I remember was about Billie's asking people regarding the justice system of today. I'm sure it's gonna be huge compared to trilogy and won't be surprised if there's another "rock opera" but definitely it won't be in the same vein of AI and 21stCB. I will really like it if theme wise it has some concept or is describing about contemporary issues because that's where they rock.

[sara_gd]

4 minutes ago, Siddharth_471 said:

I like how he's sharing his thoughts with people through social websites. They also expressed many ideas during AI and one more recent tweet I remember was about Billie's asking people regarding the justice system of today. I'm sure it's gonna be huge compared to trilogy and won't be surprised if there's another "rock opera" but definitely it won't be in the same vein of AI and 21stCB. I will really like it if theme wise it has some concept or is describing about contemporary issues because that's where they rock.

What do you mean the same vein as AI and 21st? If at the same time you think that the album will have some concept, be a rock opera and describe contemporary issues. 

[GenXIdiot]

3 minutes ago, Siddharth_471 said:

 

 

I like how he's sharing his thoughts with people through social websites. They also expressed many ideas during AI and one more recent tweet I remember was about Billie's asking people regarding the justice system of today. I'm sure it's gonna be huge compared to trilogy and won't be surprised if there's another "rock opera" but definitely it won't be in the same vein of AI and 21stCB. I will really like it if theme wise it has some concept or is describing about contemporary issues because that's where they rock.

I think you're right,imo  they are working on a socially relevant album; probably another concept album, if not rock opera, and they're going for broke. It's going to be big.