Green Day in the studio 2016

[Chin for a Day]

33 minutes ago, GenXIdiot said:

I am just curious, since I know nothing about the music business, what is the time frame for other aspects of releasing a new album? I'm talking about marketing and publicity.  Maybe the band's public appearance from Friday night was like a "warm-up" for them to brush themselves off, come out of their hidey holes, shave (Billie!), and otherwise start the process of  mentally and physically getting  ready to promote this thing and tour? It seems like if they are on to recording vocals, which is usually the last thing to record (but not always)  we should start seeing more of them soon with an album coming out; unless the album is not as near to completion as we were hoping? I'm just not sure of the usual timeline for this stuff.

They have actually already started promoting, sort of.  The band hasn't released an album in a little over 3 years, and the albums were not very well received.  They have been working on bringing the bands name back into peoples minds.  Xmas Time of year got people to say, oh a new GD song, what about a new album?  Now the cryptic instagrams have the fans talking and speculating, so the band is on our minds.  They are building momentum until they officially make the announcement and start real promotion.  This way it won't be a "Green Day, I haven't heard from them in forever" kind of thing.  It is really standard social media marketing   

[ZSebs]

37 minutes ago, GenXIdiot said:

Yes I think our posts crossed paths at the same time...I agree that you'd think there'd be some promotion, hype, singles, etc coming at us soon. 

Haha yeah they must have. I wasn't try to steal your ideas I swear 

[WhiteTim]

I'm willing to bet the booklet will read

 

"Recorded at OTIS with additional recording at Jingletown and/or Oceans Way"

[GenXIdiot]

46 minutes ago, JJ1964 said:

They have actually already started promoting, sort of.  The band hasn't released an album in a little over 3 years, and the albums were not very well received.  They have been working on bringing the bands name back into peoples minds.  Xmas Time of year got people to say, oh a new GD song, what about a new album?  Now the cryptic instagrams have the fans talking and speculating, so the band is on our minds.  They are building momentum until they officially make the announcement and start real promotion.  This way it won't be a "Green Day, I haven't heard from them in forever" kind of thing.  It is really standard social media marketing   

Ok that makes sense, for now the promotion seems to be to fans who are keeping an eye out for them, but I can see how this would build momentum as you say, and start to spill over into the mainstream media, if it hasn't already.  It was so nice to see the three of them together in the photos from Friday night, and it was kind of like a sneak preview of when the full blown promotion will begin.

[Ross_19]

56 minutes ago, JJ1964 said:

They have actually already started promoting, sort of.  The band hasn't released an album in a little over 3 years, and the albums were not very well received.  They have been working on bringing the bands name back into peoples minds.  Xmas Time of year got people to say, oh a new GD song, what about a new album?  Now the cryptic instagrams have the fans talking and speculating, so the band is on our minds.  They are building momentum until they officially make the announcement and start real promotion.  This way it won't be a "Green Day, I haven't heard from them in forever" kind of thing.  It is really standard social media marketing   

I agree, I think the Christmas song was definitely a "hey, we're here, we're active" sort of thing. I think the meaning behind releasing it was more important than the quality of the song. 

And now with these Instagram posts, the band is further wetting the appetite of fans, and grabbing even more attention from casual fans. Not to mention coverage from news outlets, there's been a Kerrang article reporting on the photo of Billie in the vocal booth, which fueled and spreaded the speculation

[Maddie86]

in the past though they always announced when they were in the studio working on new material, isn't that enough to generate hype and get people excited? if they're in the finishing stages then it seems like rolling stone would have had a blurb about it by now.

or maybe by being vague this time time around they're actually generating more hype by having people speculate as to how it's going to sound. 

[ZSebs]

59 minutes ago, JJ1964 said:

They have actually already started promoting, sort of.  The band hasn't released an album in a little over 3 years, and the albums were not very well received.  They have been working on bringing the bands name back into peoples minds.  Xmas Time of year got people to say, oh a new GD song, what about a new album?  Now the cryptic instagrams have the fans talking and speculating, so the band is on our minds.  They are building momentum until they officially make the announcement and start real promotion.  This way it won't be a "Green Day, I haven't heard from them in forever" kind of thing.  It is really standard social media marketing   

AHHHH okay that makes a ton of sense. I just checked the Xmas song on their channel and it already has over a million hits. I only mention that because I remember when I first heard it, I didn't think it would get any views outside of like the die-hard fans purely because it is a christmas song, and it wasn't about a new album.

[Chin for a Day]

8 minutes ago, Kyle Serlington said:

in the past though they always announced when they were in the studio working on new material, isn't that enough to generate hype and get people excited? if they're in the finishing stages then it seems like rolling stone would have had a blurb about it by now.

or maybe by being vague this time time around they're actually generating more hype by having people speculate as to how it's going to sound. 

That is pretty much how I see it.  They are getting everyone excited simply based on anticipation and curiosity.  Therefore, they are building hype and momentum without any promises or cost.

[petros]

1 hour ago, Kyle Serlington said:

in the past though they always announced when they were in the studio working on new material, isn't that enough to generate hype and get people excited? if they're in the finishing stages then it seems like rolling stone would have had a blurb about it by now.

or maybe by being vague this time time around they're actually generating more hype by having people speculate as to how it's going to sound. 

lol no that only happened during the trilogy. Nobody knew about 21cb and foxboro records being recorded. Don't know before that though.

[Maddie86]

3 minutes ago, petros said:

lol no that only happened during the trilogy. Nobody knew about 21cb and foxboro records being recorded. Don't know before that though.

i dunno about foxboro, but people were just saying last week that in 2009 Green Day announced at the Grammys (feb) that they were working on 21st Century Breakdown, which was released in May.

also, look at this... Rolling Stone Feb 2009 http://www.greendayauthority.com/articles/112/1/

 

Also, July 2004 Kerrang article about American Idiot 2 months before its release. I know that's not much time, but I swear I remember hearing things about it in advance back then, I may have an old zine somewhere that I can dig up that said something about it http://www.greendayauthority.com/articles/16/1/

[Liam]

3 minutes ago, Kyle Serlington said:

i dunno about foxboro, but people were just saying last week that in 2009 Green Day announced at the Grammys (feb) that they were working on 21st Century Breakdown, which was released in May.

also, look at this... Rolling Stone Feb 2009 http://www.greendayauthority.com/articles/112/1/

 

Also, July 2004 Kerrang article about American Idiot 2 months before its release. I know that's not much time, but I swear I remember hearing things about it in advance back then, I may have an old zine somewhere that I can dig up that said something about it http://www.greendayauthority.com/articles/16/1/

There's always the occasional rumours and what not when recorded, but the Trilogy was the only time when they said "Yes we are in the studio recording a follow up album"

[Fuzz]

They do usually confirm the release several months before its out. It's not like we found out about it weeks or days before its release. The only thing like that was Foxboro. 

[Cruise]

Although you can't really look at what they have done in the past and expect them to do what they did then. They could very easily shake things up and do it completely different. 

[Lacky]

20 hours ago, JJ1964 said:

I have been in marketing for a very long time and is pretty clear to me that this is social media marketing.  They want us to speculate.  They are trying to stir up interest in what the band is doing.  So, I say lets help them out and speculate away.         

I teach Social Media Marketing Strategies, and I absolutely agree with you. In the social media era, everything has to do with promotion and marketing.

[Sixtrix]

16 hours ago, Jane Lannister said:

If they were doing vocals two weeks ago they could be mixing/mastering in no time. It definitely gives more credibility to the April/May rumor. 

Unless they are recording song by song, instead of doing all the drum tracks, guitar tracks etc. first.
Maybe they use different studios for different songs.

[GenXIdiot]

4 hours ago, Sixtrix said:

Unless they are recording song by song, instead of doing all the drum tracks, guitar tracks etc. first.
Maybe they use different studios for different songs.

Could be, I don't know about recording, but wouldn't it make sense to do all of the tracks for each instrument at once, since each requires a different set up for mikes, acoustics, etc? They could very well be using different studios for different songs, because each studio probably has it own special sound due to nuances of the room, whats in the room, and what can be controlled in the room, acoustic wise.

[WhiteTim]

Bands generally don't use multiple studios to record each instrument most of the time are done at a single studio GD has also done the basic tracks at a single studio (case in point the trilogy was done at Jingletown however for the piano track for Brutal Love and piano and strings tracks for The Forgotten were done at Oceans Way while the main tracks were done at Jingletown) 

[alienlifeform]

To record each song in a different studio only makes sense if you are doing an album like Sonic Highways from the Foo Fighters. I think is very unlikely GD is doing something like that or recording song by song

[localinsomniac]

Just now, WhiteTim said:

Bands generally don't use multiple studios to record each instrument most of the time are done at a single studio GD has also done the basic tracks at a single studio (case in point the trilogy was done at Jingletown however for the piano track for Brutal Love and piano and strings tracks for The Forgotten were done at Oceans Way while the main tracks were done at Jingletown) 

Beat me to it. Was gonna say it's usually secondary instruments like strings and such, listed as "additional recording".

[GenXIdiot]

7 minutes ago, WhiteTim said:

Bands generally don't use multiple studios to record each instrument most of the time are done at a single studio GD has also done the basic tracks at a single studio (case in point the trilogy was done at Jingletown however for the piano track for Brutal Love and piano and strings tracks for The Forgotten were done at Oceans Way while the main tracks were done at Jingletown) 

OK, thanks. That make sense.

8 minutes ago, Alf said:

To record each song in a different studio only makes sense if you are doing an album like Sonic Highways from the Foo Fighters. I think is very unlikely GD is doing something like that or recording song by song

OK thanks It's interesting to learn about recording. 

[¡Nunes!]

Very interesting article about the recording process of 21st CB. http://www.emusician.com/artists/1333/green-day-a-simple-plan/41417

 

After reading, it occurred to me that Green Day may not be recording final tracks right now. But just demoing/composing songs.

Here's why:

1) "Green Day demoed every track, in sequence, until they could play the songs in their sleep. Early on, rumor had it that Vig wouldn’t sign on to the project until Green Day produced a handful of demos for his approval."

2) “I like using the studio as a compositional tool when we are doing demos,” adds Armstrong. “Recording to Pro Tools is like composing, as well, because you can shift things around and come up with a good arrangement. Then, when you go to track the song for real, you can just crank it out so it has a completely live feel to it.”

ps.: Billie didn't posted any pics with a guitar, just a michrophone and an acoustic one (right, he posted one with a bunch of pedals) Also, Tre's drum kit wasn't with a recording mic as far as I remember.

 

Also, the OTIS vs. Jingletown thing, they may as well record the demos at OTIS (because, well, other bands play/rehearse/record at Jingletown and would not be entirely privacy for Green Day).

3) "Green Day recorded demos from early March 2008 at Costa Mesa Studios, JEL in Newport Beach, and Studio 880 in Oakland. Later, the demos would function as the band’s reference tracks, and some elements would even end up in the final mix."

And if the last 3 topics were true, when they reach Jingletown, we may heard something official from the band members:

4) "“We had the entire album mapped out with demos,” Armstrong recalls. “Then, it was just a matter of going into Ocean Way and making the songs sound gigantic.”

 

Again, nothing guarantees they'd use the same process, we are just thinking out loud here. 

 

[Chin for a Day]

9 minutes ago, Adriano Nunes said:

 

ps.: Billie didn't posted any pics with a guitar, just a michrophone and an acoustic one (right, he posted one with a bunch of pedals) Also, Tre's drum kit wasn't with a recording mic as far as I remember.

 

 

 

He did post a picture with a guitar, on his birthday.  Also, just because he had an acoustic one does not mean they weren't recording.  They have had other acoustic songs.  I seem to recall one called Good Riddance.

[Siddharth_471]

When Green Day were announced for their induction in HOF, Billie said even before they knew about this he had some songs written and everyone was excited for that (which probably means demos were present that's why they were excited) and after their induction five songs were actually said to be demoed, which hints that they may have been recording since a long time even than we thought. I don't want to make actual conclusions from their photos. The photo Tre posted was without hanging toms on his drums which is unusual and the "artworks" over there were present even before they went there recording, so I doubt they will be used as themes or anything on their album. I think they have come far along and hence given us clues (which may not be totally as it is).

[¡Nunes!]

4 minutes ago, JJ1964 said:

He did post a picture with a guitar, on his birthday.  Also, just because he had an acoustic one does not mean they weren't recording.  They have had other acoustic songs.  I seem to recall one called Good Riddance.

You said what I've said in a different way and added a sarcastic comment. But yeah, I do believe they are closer to "recording" than "not recording", just showing another perspective of what happened before.

12 minutes ago, Ryan said:

There was an article numerous months ago about how Rob Cavallo had already heard a handful of demos. I am under the impression that the band has been recording demos and fucking around for quite awhile now, and that now they are putting together the finished product of that work.

I'm thinking the same, he said Billie had those 5 demos, so it's safe to think they are getting together now. How long it'd take, impossible to know =P

[localinsomniac]

Not for nothing, but the picture he posted on his birthday was an electric. That was one of his Juniors.