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I don't know about the amount of songs on the new album, but it would be nice if the length would be between 34 and 40 minutes.

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We all will get to know when it's coming out when Angry Birds will get updated compatible with the new album.

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1 hour ago, Siddharth_471 said:

We all will get to know when it's coming out when Angry Birds will get updated compatible with the new album.

I'm pretty sure this statement is a bannable offense. :lol:

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I don't see the problem with the Angry Birds thing, it was just a fun bit of promotion that required no effort from the band themselves. The "wacky" MTV/MTV type shows they always used to go on when promoting albums (especially around the millennium) were far more cringeworthy.

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3 minutes ago, Hermione said:

I don't see the problem with the Angry Birds thing, it was just a fun bit of promotion that required no effort from the band themselves. The "wacky" MTV/MTV type shows they always used to go on when promoting albums (especially around the millennium) were far more cringeworthy.

Personally, I don't have a problem with it. It was rather funny than cringeworthy.

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5 minutes ago, Hermione said:

I don't see the problem with the Angry Birds thing, it was just a fun bit of promotion that required no effort from the band themselves. The "wacky" MTV/MTV type shows they always used to go on when promoting albums (especially around the millennium) were far more cringeworthy.

 

1 minute ago, Jane Lannister said:

Personally, I don't have a problem with it. It was rather funny than cringeworthy.

I was only joking with the new guy, don't hurt me.  (I did use a laughing guy)  :(

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5 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said:

Personally, I don't have a problem with it. It was rather funny than cringeworthy.

 

3 minutes ago, JJ1964 said:

 

I was only joking with the new guy, don't hurt me.  (I did use a laughing guy)  :(

Oh yeah, it just annoyed a lot of people when they did it. Much like the Twilight thing haha, although Green Day's music has been in plenty of bad films before so not sure why there was such a fuss about that either.

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23 hours ago, Hermione said:

Really? The lyrics don't seem very teenage to me, more like midlife crisis. Teenagers aren't the only ones who party :P 

At first I thought he said to listen to Dos without Nightlife, which was what my reply was directed toward, but I think my statement still stands. To me, among many other things, the trilogy reeked of "let's try and stay relevant with the younger crowd" but flopped, partially because it seemed so desperate. "BMXcellent tits?" Eek. 

I don't disagree that this does point to a midlife crisis vibe (although didn't we used to get ripped apart on GDC for saying that?). Basically what I'm saying is the trilogy sounds like an older person trying to figure out what to do to stay relevant and young, and failing. 

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It doesn't sound anything like that to me. It's just a bunch of catchy and awesome songs.

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6 minutes ago, Steven Seagull said:

It doesn't sound anything like that to me. It's just a bunch of catchy and awesome songs.

Troublemaker came up on my shuffle yesterday and I was legitimately embarrassed at myself for listening to it willingly at one point in my life. It's just... bad. 

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I don't get that at all. If they were trying so desperately to stay relevant, I think the trilogy would have sounded much different. The vibe I got was it's just them having fun and throwing everything at a wall and seeing what sticks (which in this case it doesn't seem like very much stuck)

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I'd say it's a 50-50% sort of situation :P some of them are good, some of them try to "appeal to the young" as you're saying. I hope they won't try to do that in the new album; they're skilled song-makers and I'm obviously more interested in seeing the way they've matured and grown up reflected in their new music.

 

(....by the way, are there any news as far as new music is concerned?)

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5 minutes ago, Clockwise said:

I don't get that at all. If they were trying so desperately to stay relevant, I think the trilogy would have sounded much different. The vibe I got was it's just them having fun and throwing everything at a wall and seeing what sticks (which in this case it doesn't seem like very much stuck)

For many songs, the content was quite immature, especially when compared to their past catalog. A song like Makeout Party or Troublemaker, not as a parody, just doesn't seem normal coming from a 40-year-old man. Not to mention the Oh Love video and marketing the album through Angry Birds...

Additionally, the trilogy became more about the project itself, releasing 3 albums, than the actual music. "They've never done this before! No band has ever done this successfully before!" It's almost like they tried to find a way to make their albums iconic, without just letting it naturally happen. There was plenty of trilogy filler that could've been removed, including Troublemaker and most of Dos, leaving one fairly solid album. 

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So basically what Alissa is trying to say is that a 40-year-old-man can't/shouldn't be horny.

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22 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said:

At first I thought he said to listen to Dos without Nightlife, which was what my reply was directed toward, but I think my statement still stands. To me, among many other things, the trilogy reeked of "let's try and stay relevant with the younger crowd" but flopped, partially because it seemed so desperate. "BMXcellent tits?" Eek. 

I don't disagree that this does point to a midlife crisis vibe (although didn't we used to get ripped apart on GDC for saying that?). Basically what I'm saying is the trilogy sounds like an older person trying to figure out what to do to stay relevant and young, and failing. 

I think it has a midlife crisis vibe in that the lyrics explore midlife crisis themes, rather than it just sounding like Billie having a midlife crisis (and writing shitty songs or silly lyrics etc as a result :P), so I would've disagreed with it being described as the latter but not the former. I guess it could've sounded like an older person trying to stay relevant if it was someone who was quite a bit older (40 really isn't old) and who wasn't a rock star who's never been completely serious about things and has always incorporated some silliness into his act and lives a relatively "young" lifestyle. I don't think there's anything in there (partying, drinking, sex and relationship issues, midlife crisis style fantasizing about giving into the temptations of "sex drugs and rock n roll") that isn't something he'd genuinely be experiencing or thinking about at the time he was writing the album, even though it might not apply to everyone his age.

I think if anything American Idiot and 21st CB are more aimed at a teenage audience, since they explore personal, political and social issues from the perspective of teenage characters.

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1 minute ago, Steven Seagull said:

So basically what Alissa is trying to say is that a 40-year-old-man can't/shouldn't be horny.

:lol: FFS, that's not what I said. He can be horny, as long as he's describing those feelings with lyrics that are more eloquent than "I want to get inside of you, I like your BMXcellent tits." 

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10 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said:

For many songs, the content was quite immature, especially when compared to their past catalog. A song like Makeout Party or Trpublemaker, not as a parody song, just doesn't seem normal coming from a 40-year-old man. Not to mention the Oh Love video and marketing the album through Angry Birds...

Additionally, the trilogy became more about the project itself, releasing 3 albums, than the actual music. "They've never done this before! No band has ever done this successfully before!" It's almost like they tried to find a way to make their albums iconic, without just letting it naturally happen. There was plenty of trilogy filler that could've been removed, including Troublemaker and most of Dos, leaving one fairly solid album. 

Yeah, there is a lot of material that isn't as mature as their previous few releases, but rather than that being some attempt to stay relevant (which they've never done before) it more just speaks to what frame of mind they were in (and we know it probably wasn't the healthiest frame of mind looking at what happened shortly before UNO came out). I don't disagree that it's weird or unusual for a 40 year old man to put out a song like Makeout Party, it's strange and might seem creepy to some people. Not denying that. I just have an issue with saying it's them trying to stay relevant, because really they were pretty relevant before the trilogy (the followup to 21CB was much anticipated) and because they've never changed their music to stay relevant before.

As for marketing and Angry Birds, I don't think they have as big a hand in their marketing as they should sometimes, but that doesn't have much to do with the music. The Oh Love video is the only thing that makes me raise an eyebrow, but I think at that point the band themselves were already on a downward spiral that led to the hiatus. So idk.

 

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2 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said:

:lol: FFS, that's not what I said. He can be horny, as long as he's describing those feelings with lyrics that are more eloquent than "I want to get inside of you, I like your BMXcellent tits." 

Would it make a difference if he said something like "I am looking for my keys to open the door" instead. 

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With the Oh Love video the band didn't direct it or come up with the idea, though. Didn't Sam Bayer come out of retirement just to do it? :lol: Don't get me wrong, I thought it was pretty dire too, but unless I'm missing something they didn't have a huge amount of input into it. Same with the stuff like Angry Birds.

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Just now, Maria Gloria said:

With the Oh Love video the band didn't direct it or come up with the idea, though. Didn't Sam Bayer come out of retirement just to do it? :lol: Don't get me wrong, I thought it was pretty dire too, but unless I'm missing something they didn't have a huge amount of input into it, same with the stuff like Angry Birds.

Well regardless of how much involvement they had with it, it doesn't come off as trying to stay relevant, just comes off as something in really bad taste.

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34 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said:

Basically what I'm saying is the trilogy sounds like an older person trying to figure out what to do to stay relevant and young, and failing. 

Which is basically the definition of a mid life crisis

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5 minutes ago, Clockwise said:

Well regardless of how much involvement they had with it, it doesn't come off as trying to stay relevant, just comes off as something in really bad taste.

Oh yeah, I agree. I don't personally think any of the trilogy was an attempt to stay relevant - I mean, I've always assumed that even the sillier songs are likely about the same thing as the more serious ones, so it's all part of one thing that was obviously important to Billie - but I've defended it a lot before so I won't start again... yet :P

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16 minutes ago, JJ1964 said:

Which is basically the definition of a mid life crisis

I never said it wasn't indicative of a midlife crisis though. If anything, I agree with that fact. For some people, doesn't a midlife crisis include making changes and doing things in attempt to try and hold onto your youth?

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