Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 If Billie is/was on GDC then he probably hates us all and figures we hate the band by the way we banter. Yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solongfromthestars Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Try to make him aware of who made it! I remember him crediting people who made the #artandillegal stuff so he probably would for this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross_19 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Billie, if you come back on here and read this, call me He's probably been posting in this thread adding to the speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Aaand now to burst everyone's bubble. Billie didn't get the poster from GDA or GDC he reposted it from here. The background is the same and the guy is claiming credit. Obviously it's still awesome that Billie posted it but he didn't get it directly from here apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 The guy isn't taking credit, he said that GDA made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 25 minutes ago, JJ1964 said: The guy isn't taking credit, he said that GDA made it. I'm not saying he's taking credit for making it, he's saying Billie reposted it from him. He clearly stated GDA made it. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough in my post. It's difficult to get your point across perfectly when you're posting at a red light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Post when the red lights flash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 14 minutes ago, st_trillie said: I'm not saying he's taking credit for making it, he's saying Billie reposted it from him. He clearly stated GDA made it. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough in my post. It's difficult to get your point across perfectly when you're posting at a red light See posting and driving is bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Highway Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 37 minutes ago, JJ1964 said: See posting and driving is bad But if anything happens while driving, at least she took one for the team I for one am honored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixtrix Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 As bad as the trilogy may have turned out promotional-wise and probably being a bit too ambitious, I do think that this was a step back that they really needed. AI was a huge record and even with 21CB they remained a big name in the music industry. I think it's possible that they wanted to take a few steps back and keep it a bit more simple. Even the lyrics were more laid back. They even said they had a lot of fun recording the trilogy. There was no pressure, just pure fun and the love for music, which was quite different when they recorded AI and 21CB. They might be ready to take another big step with the new album. But they are definitely more focused now than they have ever been before. And that does excite me for the new album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, Sixtrix said: As bad as the trilogy may have turned out promotional-wise and probably being a bit too ambitious, I do think that this was a step back that they really needed. AI was a huge record and even with 21CB they remained a big name in the music industry. I think it's possible that they wanted to take a few steps back and keep it a bit more simple. Even the lyrics were more laid back. They even said they had a lot of fun recording the trilogy. There was no pressure, just pure fun and the love for music, which was quite different when they recorded AI and 21CB. They might be ready to take another big step with the new album. But they are definitely more focused now than they have ever been before. And that does excite me for the new album. I disagree about what you said about AI. They went into the recording of AI with the attitude of we are going to do what we want and if people like it, great. If they don't, oh well. They didn't put any pressure on themselves and they created a masterpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
localinsomniac Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 But when they went into the studio for AI, they set out to make a totally different album from what we ended up getting. EDIT: allegedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Highway Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I was under the impression that the trilogy was more rushed than them having more time. Time was one thing they didn't have considering they had three discs to produce. The fun and love was there, but they were still under a lot of pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 8 minutes ago, localinsomniac said: But when they went into the studio for AI, they set out to make a totally different album from what we ended up getting. EDIT: allegedly How so? If you are referring to Cigarettes and Valentines that isn't the same recording session. I believe that once they decided on doing a concept album that is exactly what they did, they started over with a new attitude. I don't think it changed once they had made that decision. Billie had said that they decided to do the concept album because they wanted too no matter what people thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Highway Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I remember a source that said that they recorded a version of American Idiot (the song) and a version of Homecoming...demos basically. And they decided after that, and after talking with the producer that they would attempt a rock opera off it. Which really worked out well. They scrapped Cigarettes And Valentines. There was a point between the two albums that they were considering calling it a day. But then they went forward with the two demos for American Idiot and loan be hold, we own it nearly 12 years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
localinsomniac Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 7 minutes ago, JJ1964 said: How so? If you are referring to Cigarettes and Valentines that isn't the same recording session. I believe that once they decided on doing a concept album that is exactly what they did, they started over with a new attitude. I don't think it changed once they had made that decision. Billie had said that they decided to do the concept album because they wanted too no matter what people thought. Different sessions, I'll give you that. But it was the same cycle. For whatever reason, C&V "disappeared." And it wasn't until that happened that they decided to go for the concept of record. So they set out to make one album. Whether it got stolen, whether they just weren't happy with the product, whatever. Then they started over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 6 minutes ago, localinsomniac said: Different sessions, I'll give you that. But it was the same cycle. For whatever reason, C&V "disappeared." And it wasn't until that happened that they decided to go for the concept of record. So they set out to make one album. Whether it got stolen, whether they just weren't happy with the product, whatever. Then they started over. C&V probably disappeared because it wasn't the highest quality. The point I was making, was that when they finally decided on the concept album, their attitudes changed. They decided they were going to do waht they wanted whether people liked it or not. That kind of attitude can actually help the creative process greatly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
localinsomniac Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 53 minutes ago, JJ1964 said: C&V probably disappeared because it wasn't the highest quality. The point I was making, was that when they finally decided on the concept album, their attitudes changed. They decided they were going to do waht they wanted whether people liked it or not. That kind of attitude can actually help the creative process greatly. I don't disagree with anything you've said in this post. I was only trying to make the point that their initial intent was to put out a standard album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siddharth_471 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 8 hours ago, st_trillie said: If Billie is/was on GDC then he probably hates us all and figures we hate the band by the way we banter. Yay! What if Billie already made an account in GDC with a username Siddharth_471, contributing in all the threads like this one and is making speculations with all your comments 8 hours ago, Ross_19 said: Billie, if you come back on here and read this, call me He's probably been posting in this thread adding to the speculation Hi Ross! -Rage & Love. Billie Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sara_gd Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Siddharth_471 said: What if Billie already made an account in GDC with a username Siddharth_471, contributing in all the threads like this one and is making speculations with all your comments Hi Ross! -Rage & Love. Billie Joe No typos in your post... try harder next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Benjamin Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 8 hours ago, JJ1964 said: C&V probably disappeared because it wasn't the highest quality. The point I was making, was that when they finally decided on the concept album, their attitudes changed. They decided they were going to do waht they wanted whether people liked it or not. That kind of attitude can actually help the creative process greatly. Warner would've had a really high standard for them after Warning's sales. That's why I think the next album will be really fucking great again. The trilogy didn't sell well, so Warners gonna expect something that will be great again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixtrix Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 11 minutes ago, Jon Benjamin said: Warner would've had a really high standard for them after Warning's sales. That's why I think the next album will be really fucking great again. The trilogy didn't sell well, so Warners gonna expect something that will be great again. Sales dropped with each album after Dookie though. But I agree that Warning got the worst sales numbers. But I'm not sure if it's the label that put up a higher standard. Maybe partly. But I recall reading an interview around the time of AI where they mentioned that they started to question themselves whether they were happy with where they were at that moment and if they even still had a goal to aim for. I think they felt they were ready to play bigger shows but they just were not able to reach that amount of people to fill up stadiums. Besides that they also had some issues with the chemistry with each other in the band, but maybe that also had to do with the fact that they felt they could do more than what they were doing at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 From what they've said I think they realised they weren't pushing themselves to make the best music they could (they weren't being "maximum Green Day" as they put it) so they decided to start again being as ambitious as possible and trying anything they wanted, and American Idiot was the result. I think that's where the motivation has to come from, wanting to make the best music they can and the music they want to make. Pleasing a record company or fans has to just be a side effect of doing that, if the motivation is pleasing others it's not going to be great music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 On 2/4/2016 at 3:35 AM, Hermione said: From what they've said I think they realised they weren't pushing themselves to make the best music they could (they weren't being "maximum Green Day" as they put it) so they decided to start again being as ambitious as possible and trying anything they wanted, and American Idiot was the result. I think that's where the motivation has to come from, wanting to make the best music they can and the music they want to make. Pleasing a record company or fans has to just be a side effect of doing that, if the motivation is pleasing others it's not going to be great music. But the motivation and enthusiasm was there and we got the Trilogy, so we have to be wary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 2 hours ago, DookieLukie said: But the motivation and enthusiasm was there and we got the Trilogy, so we have to be wary. Well yeah being motivated by wanting to make good music isn't a guarantee that it'll be good/people will like it every time. But if they're not motivated for that reason (and instead are primarily trying to give a record company or fans what they want) it's a pretty good guarantee that it won't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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