That Dude Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 18 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said: I'd rather listen to Good Charlotte's new album than 99 percent of the trilogy. I really enjoyed it, actually. The new blink-182 album took some time to grow, and accept that they're different now, and once I got in that mindset, it was a good listen. But since the day I first heard "Makeshift Love" I was just like, "damn, Good Charlotte's still got it" and the album didn't disappoint me. I mean, you know Feldmann produced The Young and the Hopeless, right? It's not like he doesn't know the band's sound or what made them popular. I'm not really sure what you're expecting from an early 2000s pop-punk band these days, but I'd say it was a solid effort that's true to their style with some songs that are still catchy enough to possibly get radio play in 2016. To me, it's better than Green Day's most recent effort to stay relevant in today's music scene (but hopefully, unlike the trilogy, the next album blows me away!). OK, there's a producer-related argument, trilogy bashing and a pop-punk argument. Next... Oh look, a question about Otis too! Someone should make a bingo card. Hey, everybody has an opinion. We disagree, that's cool. Hopefully we will be united on our opinions of Green Day 12. If not, that's cool too. I personally hope it has guitars on it, because Joel and Benji are pouring 40's out for those 2003 guitar sounds. Me, I'm pouring Bud Light Platniums out for those 90s sounds. Life Changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleIron1039 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 14 minutes ago, Matt. said: Play along at home, kids! Haha I'm guilty of a lot of this, but I totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Hoe Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Jake69 said: We all are, man. We all are... Bingo of Shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter. Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I like to think The Young and the Hopeless was so good because Feldmann only co-produced it, he didn't handle all of the production. Eric Valentine also worked on that album and he's a pretty good producer. He co-produced Songs for the Deaf by Queens of the Stone Age, a perfect record in my opinion. If he worked with Green Day I wouldn't be mad at all. Side note, all this discussion about who'll be the producer, what if Green Day just produced the new record themselves like Warning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I really like Young and the Hopeless. 1 minute ago, Harry Potter. said: I like to think The Young and the Hopeless was so good because Feldmann only co-produced it, he didn't handle all of the production. Eric Valentine also worked on that album and he's a pretty good producer. He co-produced Songs for the Deaf by Queens of the Stone Age, a perfect record in my opinion. If he worked with Green Day I wouldn't be mad at all. Side note, all this discussion about who'll be the producer, what if Green Day just produced the new record themselves like Warning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Hoe Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, Harry Potter. said: Side note, all this discussion about who'll be the producer, what if Green Day just produced the new record themselves like Warning? That would be pretty neat too. Warning is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleIron1039 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 5 minutes ago, Billie Hoe said: That would be pretty neat too. Warning is awesome. As long as all the members have some input, I might be able to see it working. I think that when the production is worked on exclusively by one band member, their inherent biases towards their own instruments tend to show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter. Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 1 hour ago, PurpleIron1039 said: As long as all the members have some input, I might be able to see it working. I think that when the production is worked on exclusively by one band member, their inherent biases towards their own instruments tend to show up. Have you actually seen this happen on an album? Because while I also thought this a while ago, I can't think of an example wherein the producing band member's instrument was actually overpowering the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleIron1039 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 16 minutes ago, Harry Potter. said: Have you actually seen this happen on an album? Because while I also thought this a while ago, I can't think of an example wherein the producing band member's instrument was actually overpowering the rest. The Blaze Bayley Maiden albums (both of which Steve produced). The guitars sound pretty thin. In general, I've never really thought that albums with band members producing usually sound good. Have you listened to Redeemer of Souls? Glenn Tipton (one of the two lead guitarists) produced that one, and while the playing is tight, the production is definitely kind of limp and lacking. Then there's Jugulator, which suffers from an overly dry sound IMO. At times, I almost feel like there's only one guitar playing, which may have possibly been due to the fact that Glenn also produced that one and may have put Ken's parts further down in the mix. I'm no expert on production by any means, but it's my best guess as to why records produced by band members often are criticized for the production quality. I'd just prefer for an experienced third party to handle the production duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe. Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 2 hours ago, Matt. said: Play along at home, kids! Any prizes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedundantIdiot Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 In years to come I'll still be laughing at half of the stuff on this thread. People are literally linking anything and everything to the album. I swear if we see a video of Billie sneezing right now, people will come on here and will be like ''how can we link that sneeze to the album''? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve46 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Just now, Whatsername_123 said: In years to come I'll still be laughing at half of the stuff on this thread. People are literally linking anything and everything to the album. I swear if we see a video of Billie sneezing right now, people will come on here and will be like ''how can we link that sneeze to the album''? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Hoe Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 5 minutes ago, Whatsername_123 said: In years to come I'll still be laughing at half of the stuff on this thread. People are literally linking anything and everything to the album. I swear if we see a video of Billie sneezing right now, people will come on here and will be like ''how can we link that sneeze to the album''? IT WILL BE SICK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarcasm Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 2 hours ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said: I'd rather listen to Good Charlotte's new album than 99 percent of the trilogy. I really enjoyed it, actually. The new blink-182 album took some time to grow, and accept that they're different now, and once I got in that mindset, it was a good listen. But since the day I first heard "Makeshift Love" I was just like, "damn, Good Charlotte's still got it" and the album didn't disappoint me. I mean, you know Feldmann produced The Young and the Hopeless, right? It's not like he doesn't know the band's sound or what made them popular. I'm not really sure what you're expecting from an early 2000s pop-punk band these days, but I'd say it was a solid effort that's true to their style with some songs that are still catchy enough to possibly get radio play in 2016. To me, it's better than Green Day's most recent effort to stay relevant in today's music scene (but hopefully, unlike the trilogy, the next album blows me away!). OK, there's a producer-related argument, trilogy bashing and a pop-punk argument. Next... I gotta agree, even though I haven't even listened to it yet. The fact that GC disappointed me with their last album just makes me more curious about this new one. And along with this, Billy Talent has a new single, Sum 41 has a new single and Blink-182 has a new album. Green Day would pretty much complete the pop-punk bukkake that 2016 ended up becoming, and I'm so stoked about it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangestat Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, Sarcasm said: pop-punk bukkake This sounds like a band name that needs to exsist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paola17 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 9 minutes ago, Sarcasm said: pop-punk bukkake Someone trademark that, please (if it isn't already) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarcasm Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 10 minutes ago, strangestat said: This sounds like a band name that needs to exsist 5 minutes ago, Paola17 said: Someone trademark that, please (if it isn't already) it's the title of my upcoming battle rap mixtape produced by god himself Will.I.Am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedundantIdiot Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 To those who think Will.Iam has helped produce the album- he was on the Voice UK earlier this year. I doubt he was flying back and forth across the Atlantic to help them produce the album. And besides, he has little experience of rock/punk music. Therefore, I doubt he has produced the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paola17 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 People were talking about the VMAs being a possibility for something due to history (still a long shot). Anyhow, in the case something does happen-is anyone applying for tix to the event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, Whatsername_123 said: To those who think Will.Iam has helped produce the album- he was on the Voice UK earlier this year. I doubt he was flying back and forth across the Atlantic to help them produce the album. And besides, he has little experience of rock/punk music. Therefore, I doubt he has produced the album. Will has produced a couple blues albums blues isn't that much different than rock and why wouldn't Will not fly to different places? When Cee Lo the second year doing The Voice US he was in middle of a UK tour but yes Will is most likely not the producer of the new album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter. Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 1 hour ago, PurpleIron1039 said: The Blaze Bayley Maiden albums (both of which Steve produced). The guitars sound pretty thin. In general, I've never really thought that albums with band members producing usually sound good. Have you listened to Redeemer of Souls? Glenn Tipton (one of the two lead guitarists) produced that one, and while the playing is tight, the production is definitely kind of limp and lacking. Then there's Jugulator, which suffers from an overly dry sound IMO. At times, I almost feel like there's only one guitar playing, which may have possibly been due to the fact that Glenn also produced that one and may have put Ken's parts further down in the mix. I'm no expert on production by any means, but it's my best guess as to why records produced by band members often are criticized for the production quality. I'd just prefer for an experienced third party to handle the production duties. Thanks for the info. I haven't listened to any of these albums before but I'll check them out. I heard the Blaze albums were an all time low for Iron Maiden in general though. I do still think that a single band member-produced album can work out if the producing member really knows what he's doing. I guess that's rare but it can happen: the Descendents did it with their drummer successfully producing most of their work, Billy Talent did it with Ian D'sa producing their last two albums well, etc. 50 minutes ago, Sarcasm said: Billy Talent has a new single Album's out today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedundantIdiot Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 59 minutes ago, WhiteTim said: and why wouldn't Will not fly to different places? When Cee Lo the second year doing The Voice US he was in middle of a UK tour but yes Will is most likely not the producer of the new album Yes, of course he could fly back and forward across the Atlantic, but he was on the tv show right when Billie was posting those videos of the band in the studio. Why would the band pick him to produce the album if he was flying back and forth when they could just pick someone to spend more time with them in the studio? I wouldn't be disappointed if he did produce the album though, but it's so unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanity Loan Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I can imagine one of the guys reading this right now and having a good laugh at us seriously considering the fact that fucking Will.I.Am. could have produced this album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangestat Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 I don't think anyone is seriously considering it? I thought it was more tongue and cheek cuz we don't have anything else to talk about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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