Sixtrix Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 As much as it bugs me that they have not spilled that much info on the recording status, what producer they are working with (if they work with a producer at all) and what kind of songs or sound we might expect, I also love it how none of us have even the slightest clue what they are up to while they have been working on the new record for quite some time now. No matter what the new album will sound like, this whole speculation and waiting has been quite a special (for some annoying) experience by itself and it's something we always will remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
localinsomniac Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 1 hour ago, DannyDirnt said: I was thinking they might do some intimate, small-venue concrets in the States? Maybe they'll play some new song(s), like they did for the trilogy. Also rehearsals, of course. That is entirely possible. I really hope they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 If they go for a 21CB-like promotion, I hope they will record another MTV World Stage, or at least have a few award performances so they can get some attention before the albums are released. I have to say, though, that I don't think their appearance at the VMAs playing Let Yourself Go got them too much of it. Nonetheless, they do have a very solid fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanity Loan Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 52 minutes ago, DannyDirnt said: If they go for a 21CB-like promotion, I hope they will record another MTV World Stage, or at least have a few award performances so they can get some attention before the albums are released. I have to say, though, that I don't think their appearance at the VMAs playing Let Yourself Go got them too much of it. Nonetheless, they do have a very solid fanbase. I actually think the VMA thing DID help. What didn't help was the total disappearance of the band soon after. I know several people who are not Green Day fans and only listen to Top 40 radio that had that song stuck in their head afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 16 minutes ago, Matt. said: I actually think the VMA thing DID help. What didn't help was the total disappearance of the band soon after. I know several people who are not Green Day fans and only listen to Top 40 radio that had that song stuck in their head afterwards. Well, yeah, you may be right. Somehow I forgot about the whole rehab issue. That sure wasn't positive attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter. Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 8 minutes ago, DannyDirnt said: Well, yeah, you may be right. Somehow I forgot about the whole rehab issue. That sure wasn't positive attention. I think the bigger problem was that it was barely any attention at all. Aside of the iHeart Radio incident, Green Day was barely in the public eye at all for those few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Yeah, it was weird. I remember I expected much more of public interest given how successful 21CB was. Then literally everyone got offended by iheart, which is something I'll never understand, I mean, we have heard the f-word before, right? Fun times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said: Yeah, it was weird. I remember I expected much more of public interest given how successful 21CB was. Then literally everyone got offended by iheart, which is something I'll never understand, I mean, we have heard the f-word before, right? Fun times 21CB wasn't successful. It barely sold 1 million copies in the US. Compare that with almost 10 million for American Idiot. 21CB first two weeks of sales were insane for a rock band, but people quickly lost interest. No one got offended by iHeart. They either thought Green Day got edgy and punk again or they felt bad for Billie. It was great publicity until he went into rehab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter. Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, DookieLukie said: No one got offended by iHeart. They either thought Green Day got edgy and punk again or they felt bad for Billie. It was great publicity until he went into rehab. Ehhhhh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beathe. Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 10 hours ago, Mary711 said: Hello, tour. I'm ready for you. Yes! I'm going to some other concerts as well, so it would be great if they could just give us the tour dates already. I need to plan all my band stalking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanity Loan Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 48 minutes ago, DookieLukie said: 21CB wasn't successful. It barely sold 1 million copies in the US. Compare that with almost 10 million for American Idiot. 21CB first two weeks of sales were insane for a rock band, but people quickly lost interest. So you're comparing sales of AI, an album that was released in 2004 and was (and still is) a cultural phenomenon, to an album released in 2009 (5 years later) and isn't a cultural phenomenon? There is no comparison, especially in 2004 when MCR, Sum 41, Blink, and other comparable bands (and the genre as a whole) were at the peak of their popularity. Look in iTunes (US) Store (arguably a good indication of album sales/success of an album) and Green Day's top albums. See what's there at #3 and #8? You can ignore the AI Cast album. The only reason it has a high sales count is because that's the only way (at least in the US) you can get "Holiday" and "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" as individual songs. Sadly, they're not even the AI album versions (obviously). I also wouldn't put Nimrod and ISH ahead of 21CB in sales due to the fact that there are two versions of 21CB available for purchase, vs the one version. You're out of your mind to say 21CB "wasn't successful." Yes, compared to AI it wasn't (and never will be), but your blanket statement is insane and totally wrong. /rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 8 minutes ago, DookieLukie said: 21CB wasn't successful. It barely sold 1 million copies in the US. Compare that with almost 10 million for American Idiot. 21CB first two weeks of sales were insane for a rock band, but people quickly lost interest. No one got offended by iHeart. They either thought Green Day got edgy and punk again or they felt bad for Billie. It was great publicity until he went into rehab. Actually I think it was quite successul in terms of public interest in the band. The singles did well, everyone knew about them. They still were a part of mainstream which wasn't the case with the trilogy. We might have been following different media back then, I wasn't that much into it back then, anyway, but most of what I remember reading was mostly negative (I read like one article praising him, one making fun of him. The rest of negative imo.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Nimrod09 said: Man, it's getting hot in here. Not really, this is standard gdc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanity Loan Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, Nimrod09 said: Man, it's getting hot in here. Just calling out BS as I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mato Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Looks like that photo of Junior that was confirmed to belong to Billie is gone now hmm... I think we're getting really close. At least I hope.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akshat Jain Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Jane Lannister said: They still were a part of mainstream which wasn't the case with the trilogy. Stop when the red light flashes, was a soundtrack in Nfs most wanted 2012, and it sounded badass during races Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter. Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, Akshat Jain said: Stop when the red light flashes, was a soundtrack in Nfs most wanted 2012, and it sounded badass during races That doesn't necessarily put them in the mainstream. They were a well known rock band, as they are now, but they weren't pop superstars anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
localinsomniac Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Matt. said: So you're comparing sales of AI, an album that was released in 2004 and was (and still is) a cultural phenomenon, to an album released in 2009 (5 years later) and isn't a cultural phenomenon? There is no comparison, especially in 2004 when MCR, Sum 41, Blink, and other comparable bands (and the genre as a whole) were at the peak of their popularity. Look in iTunes (US) Store (arguably a good indication of album sales/success of an album) and Green Day's top albums. See what's there at #3 and #8? You can ignore the AI Cast album. The only reason it has a high sales count is because that's the only way (at least in the US) you can get "Holiday" and "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" as individual songs. Sadly, they're not even the AI album versions (obviously). I also wouldn't put Nimrod and ISH ahead of 21CB in sales due to the fact that there are two versions of 21CB available for purchase, vs the one version. You're out of your mind to say 21CB "wasn't successful." Yes, compared to AI it wasn't (and never will be), but your blanket statement is insane and totally wrong. /rant I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 One only has to see 21 Guns' popularity to know whether 21CB was successful or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, DannyDirnt said: One only has to see 21 Guns' popularity to know whether 21CB was successful or not. Exactly. I recently heard it on a big mainstream radio station that usually plays whatever new dance crap there is. This speaks for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary711 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 8 hours ago, DannyDirnt said: So they are going on tour this same month! Ah, those little motherfuckers, keeping everything under wraps until the very last minute I hope I can see them again for their new album tour, but I'll be on Erasmus so I doubt it Where are you going? I mean it's likely they'll play a lot of places and you might have a chance to see them then. 2 hours ago, Billie Hoe is my hero said: Yes! I'm going to some other concerts as well, so it would be great if they could just give us the tour dates already. I need to plan all my band stalking. This so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakke Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 7 hours ago, Sixtrix said: As much as it bugs me that they have not spilled that much info on the recording status, what producer they are working with (if they work with a producer at all) and what kind of songs or sound we might expect, I also love it how none of us have even the slightest clue what they are up to while they have been working on the new record for quite some time now. No matter what the new album will sound like, this whole speculation and waiting has been quite a special (for some annoying) experience by itself and it's something we always will remember. I'm personally expecting them to have Rob Cavallo closely involved, though they could be self-producing as you suggest. I personally think it would be better if someone else was producing (Butch Vig did a very good job on 21CB). As for official information, it's indeed really scarce compared to the Trilogy, but I don't think that is necessarily bad. They may want to keep things under close tabs until an official announcement. Personally I expect an announcement and a single between late June and mid-August (gut feeling July 7), at least if they are aiming for a late September to late October release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 1 hour ago, DannyDirnt said: One only has to see 21 Guns' popularity to know whether 21CB was successful or not. & 21cb tour was fucking amazing. 2 hours ago, Mato said: Looks like that photo of Junior that was confirmed to belong to Billie is gone now hmm... I think we're getting really close. At least I hope.. It's really bizaar how they have hinted stuff & then pulled it when we found the clue - pretty cool really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDirnt Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Mary711 said: Where are you going? I mean it's likely they'll play a lot of places and you might have a chance to see them then. This so much. France. But I'll be very far away from Paris. Maybe the nearest for me is Barcelona, but still far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 39 minutes ago, DannyDirnt said: France. But I'll be very far away from Paris. Maybe the nearest for me is Barcelona, but still far... I love how you guys say far. try travelling in oz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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