Green Day in the studio 2016

[¡Nunes!]

I was going to say I dreamed that I heard the new album last night and people are already saying the same here. Sometimes GDC give me the creeps.

[localinsomniac]

 

9 minutes ago, Adriano Nunes said:

I was going to say I dreamed that I heard the new album last night and people are already saying the same here. Sometimes GDC give me the creeps.

Sometimes GDC plays tricks on you

[GenXIdiot]

1 hour ago, JJ1964 said:

My birthday is on a Friday and coming up pretty soon.  Since I am Billie's favorite fan, I predict a record release date of June 10 

Maybe a single? A birthday present for you from Billie Joe!

[grene cniht]

So let's assume the album is gonna be mostly political with Donald Trump playing a big role in it, which I think is a very possible scenario. The only thing we were able to know so far about a release date (from a fairly reliable source) was "Hopefully in the fall", which is when US Election is taking place. Are they waiting for it to get the album out? Probably, but that's not what I'm bringing up right now.

The point is: Donald Trump is not the President of USA yet, and neither is Hillary Clinton nor anyone else. And no one in the world right now can tell with certainty who's gonna win. What I'm trying to say is that the perspective we have today is necessarily and totally different from the one we'll have after November, 8th. I'll put it in simple terms. Today I could say A: " If Trump wins America's gonna turn into a huge mess, hell I hope it doesn't happen." But after the election this will have to become B: "Oh shit Trump won we're all fucked let's move to the North Pole" or whatever else.

Now in any case it'd really be a disaster to put out an album that says A before the elections, even if Trump won, cause after a while no one will give a damn about an old point of view. Equally they would take an insane risk waiting for the elections to release an album that says B, cause what if Trump doesn't win? Yeah, we all know what, "stolen record, not maximum Green Day, let's start all over again!" (aside from the fact that Billie would have to vote for Trump, and I honestly can't see that happen). Note that even if Trump was referred to as an "american idiot" and not mentioned directly, the statement would hardly work 'cause the songs would be clearly inspired by him and this would show up. (Well maybe it would work nontheless if Hillary won but that's an off-topic; yeah I'm seriously worried for you Americans!)

So it must be a fucking nightmare to write a political album right now. I wonder if Billie has realized it and therefore decided to move towards a different direction after discussing it with the rest of the band. Or maybe at this point they already have two albums ready to be released depending on what the future will bring. If Trump isn't the winner, Album 1 will be out, and as for Album 2, I'm sure they've found a way to release it in another space-time dimension where Trump will actually win. Oh well, I guess I've gone too far...

[XxXxXxXxX]

1 hour ago, Adriano Nunes said:

Sometimes GDC give me the creeps.

 

1 hour ago, localinsomniac said:

Sometimes GDC plays tricks on you

It all keeps adding up.

 

I think GDC is cracking up.

[localinsomniac]

They put out American Idiot a full six weeks ahead of the election in 2004, not knowing whether John Kerry would win, or Bush would be re-elected. They didn't seem concerned about it then, so I'm not sure it's a big sticking point for them right now.

edit: that's assuming this next album has more than a negligible amount of political material.

[Beerjeezus]

Am I paranoid or is this a spam? 

[Paola17]

7 minutes ago, Master Roshi said:

But after the election this will have to become B: "Oh shit Trump won we're all fucked let's move to the North Pole" or whatever else.

Not too far off from what people will want.

[Beerjeezus]

8 minutes ago, Paola17 said:

Not too far off from what people will want.

I don't know how rare my opinion is but I want literally anything else but AI part 2, or anything else part 2 for that matter. 

[Chin for a Day]

12 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said:

I don't know how rare my opinion is but I want literally anything else but AI part 2, or anything else part 2 for that matter. 

I agree, but an album with political themes does not have to be AI part 2

[lizziebix]

I feel like they are comfortable setting a set list and then not varying much from show to show. 

Plus seeing KFAD live after seeing tons of videos was so much better than I expected.  

Don't think we'll see that much change from previous shows except for maybe a few new songs.

[Beerjeezus]

2 hours ago, JJ1964 said:

I agree, but an album with political themes does not have to be AI part 2

True, however, I'd prefer if politics weren't the core theme or at least if it wasn't marketed that way. It would attract more comparing and it might lead to similar result as 21CB.  People will fail to see it as a work of its own but as a repeated scheme. It would be better if they had other themes to talk about besides it.

[UNICORN VOMIT]

9 hours ago, lizziebix said:

 

Don't think we'll see that much change from previous shows except for maybe a few new songs.

I have no trouble with kinda the same setlist with a change up but Im  not sure how you can want only a few new songs - especially with a new album coming out.  This is their time to revamp the whole set - after all they are practicing all summer long

[lizziebix]

23 minutes ago, BillyjoelxkidXx said:

I have no trouble with kinda the same setlist with a change up but Im  not sure how you can want only a few new songs - especially with a new album coming out.  This is their time to revamp the whole set - after all they are practicing all summer long

I wasn't meaning that I only want a few new songs but from past tours after a new album (21st and the Trilogy mostly) the sets were pretty similar and didn't change up very much from show to show.  It just seems that they like a show to go a certain way and only vary it a tiny bit from show to show.

[That Dude]

On 5/12/2016 at 7:57 PM, JJ1964 said:

14 hours ago, BillyjoelxkidXx said:

 

On 5/25/2016 at 7:39 AM, ElmoGreenDay said:

I know this probably isn't relevant but I had a dream last night that the new album was confirmed for September 3rd. Dunno if it's at all true bur I'm adding it to my calendar lol.

Green Day tends to drop albums in September-December, so September is very possible.   October is the most frequent for them but I don't think we can wait that long can we?    

[That Dude]

 

May is coming to an end and nothing new announced.    American Idiot took 11 months and 8 days to record and then was released 5 months 25 days after that.   And they've been hinted at being in the studio since January 18th.    It could take more or less time of course, but let's say they wrap up recording December 26th, 2016.   and then start putting together the packaging, artwork, tour, etc for the next 5 months, 25 days.   I just did some crazy googling and math, and if American Idiot is the recording standard ------- which it kind of should be --------------We’re looking at a June 23rd 2017 release date.   So there you have it folks.  

American Idiot II will be released on June 23rd, 2017.  

Even then we still haven’t waited as long as we did for Breakdown.   If it wasn’t for the Tubbies (and a few other really amazing non-album songs)  I’m certain our brains would have popped and we would have breakdowns.   lol

I've said it before and I'll say it again.  As long as this album drops before August 4th, 2017 we will survive.  Anything beyond that and I'm officially worried about what's going on in the Green Day camp.      

And I just realized Breakdown took 16 months to record, but they released it almost immediately (due to Murder City being a last minute add on I believe??)  

 

 

[localinsomniac]

Why do you say American Idiot should be the standard? I always considered that album to be an aberration in terms of the studio time they put into it. 

[Sanity Loan]

On 4/18/2016 at 8:37 AM, Matt. said:

See the first single release dates below for all albums (that count). Based on these, I don't think we'll see a single until August or September (assuming a September or October release). This is of course if they stick to the trend.

Dookie (and before)
Doesn't count because no one knew Green Day, so standard single marketing doesn't apply

Insomniac
Album release: October 10, 1995
Single release: September 25, 1995 ("Geek Stink Breath")

Nimrod
Album release: October 14, 1997
Single release: September 22, 1997 ("Hitchin' a Ride")

Warning
Album release: October 3, 2000
Single release: August 31, 2000 ("Minority")

American Idiot
Album release: September 21, 2004
Single release: August 31, 2014 ("American Idiot")

21st Century Breakdown
Album release: May 15, 2009
Single release: April 16, 2009 ("Know Your Enemy")

UNO
Album release: September 25, 2012
Single release: July 16, 2012 ("Oh Love")

DOS
Album release: November 9, 2012
Single release: October 15, 2012 ("Stray Heart")

TRE
Single(s) didn't matter at this point

 

On 4/20/2016 at 11:45 AM, Matt. said:

The Trilogy was announced in mid-April of 2012, five months before UNO came out. 21st Century Breakdown was announced in February of 2009, three months before its release. American Idiot was announced in May of 2004, four months before its release.

If the new album is to come out in September or October, I'd say we can expect an announcement as early as May, but likely in June or July.

 

[Clayish]

Has anything happened or is this all speculation/hype talk?

This will come out in October/November probably.

[Hermione]

8 minutes ago, Clayish said:

Has anything happened or is this all speculation/hype talk?

This will come out in October/November probably.

All speculation and hype talk

[Harry Potter.]

11 minutes ago, Clayish said:

This will come out in October/November probably.

I agree. Not sure when it'll be announced, but this thread will be on page 140.

[Clayish]

21 minutes ago, Hermione said:

All speculation and hype talk

Frustrating. I want to see if this band has any more gold in them.

[That Dude]

5 hours ago, localinsomniac said:

Why do you say American Idiot should be the standard? I always considered that album to be an aberration in terms of the studio time they put into it. 

I say that because the results speak for themselves.  American Idiot is a masterpiece and was worth the extra time they put into it.  Every rhythm, vocal, riff and note reverberated with real emotion and pain.  A dozen years later those songs still me blow away.   That album is emotionally brutal and powerful and if it had been rushed it wouldn't have been as good.   But in the other hand, I know Billie has talked about how rushed and chaotic Nimrod's writing and recording process was (and that he never wanted to suffer like that again)   ---- and Nimrod was a great album as well.  Every album is different, I just know they've talked about not rushing Album 12.   Some albums are written in hours, some years.   And whatever the sound and subject matter may be, I hope they go the extra mile again.   I wish I could remember Mike's exact quote from "Heard Like A Hand Grenade" where he said they wanted to make sure that every word, every note was powerful....something like that.     That's why I think it should be the standard.  

As far as Album 12 goes.....I'm all for something brand new and crazy.   But it needs to take an emotional cue from American Idiot and really pull at the heart strings and make us feel like 13 year old playing air guitar in front of the mirror.   It needs to bring a tear to our eyes.   Essentially (I know, I'm rambling), this album should be bigger, badder and awesomer than their other albums.   Doesn't have to top American Idiot, but it should be good enough to blow some of their other releases out of the water.    

 

 

[Beerjeezus]

it's just hard to believe Nimrod was written in a hurry given that it contains some of the best songwriting and lyrics they have done.

[Chin for a Day]

25 minutes ago, thatdude03 said:

I say that because the results speak for themselves.  American Idiot is a masterpiece and was worth the extra time they put into it.  Every rhythm, vocal, riff and note reverberated with real emotion and pain.  A dozen years later those songs still me blow away.   That album is emotionally brutal and powerful and if it had been rushed it wouldn't have been as good.   But in the other hand, I know Billie has talked about how rushed and chaotic Nimrod's writing and recording process was (and that he never wanted to suffer like that again)   ---- and Nimrod was a great album as well.  Every album is different, I just know they've talked about not rushing Album 12.   Some albums are written in hours, some years.   And whatever the sound and subject matter may be, I hope they go the extra mile again.   I wish I could remember Mike's exact quote from "Heard Like A Hand Grenade" where he said they wanted to make sure that every word, every note was powerful....something like that.     That's why I think it should be the standard.  

As far as Album 12 goes.....I'm all for something brand new and crazy.   But it needs to take an emotional cue from American Idiot and really pull at the heart strings and make us feel like 13 year old playing air guitar in front of the mirror.   It needs to bring a tear to our eyes.   Essentially (I know, I'm rambling), this album should be bigger, badder and awesomer than their other albums.   Doesn't have to top American Idiot, but it should be good enough to blow some of their other releases out of the water.    

 

 

I don't think anything should be a standard.  The way they recorded AI worked for AI.  If they try the same method, it won't necessarily work.   As Jane said, Nimrod was written in a hurry and there are some beautiful lyrically songs on it.  Being in a hurry worked for Nimrod.  They just need to go in and do what feels right and not worry about trying to recreate the "magic" of the past.