SomeNimrod97 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, Lady Nightlife said: It does make sense, though. It follows the time increments in order from shortest to longest. Day (shortest increment) - month (longer increment) - year (longest increment). I get the other way, too (because we say month/day/year when we're speaking) but you can't just imply that our way of doing it is moronic because it's not Oh, and another thing.... In reality, Trump supporters make up a very small minority of the population. The only reason he's leading the polling right now is because the field he's running in has so many candidates and is so fractured. I'd suggest that you not go around generalizing an entire population of over 300 million people that you clearly know very little about Speaking of Trump, I wonder if that will be another focus of the album. If so, I could lead to another AI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akshat Jain Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Dreamcatcher this time?? Fingers Crossed!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Baby Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Just now, SomeNimrod97 said: Speaking of Trump, I wonder if that will be another focus of the album. If so, I could lead to another AI. I would have no complaints about another political album inspired by the Trump phenomenon tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 13 minutes ago, Lady Nightlife said: I would have no complaints about another political album inspired by the Trump phenomenon tbh. There is enough inspiration there. Through in Sarah Palin and we are looking at a double album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Baby Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Just now, JJ1964 said: There is enough inspiration there. Through in Sarah Palin and we are looking at a double album. What a complete shit show. I still can't get over how she was endorsing Trump as her son was getting arrested for assaulting his girlfriend. I know this is off-topic but UUUUUGHHH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Seagull Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 18 minutes ago, SomeNimrod97 said: Speaking of Trump, I wonder if that will be another focus of the album. If so, I could lead to another AI. FFS please no. One album was enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, Lady Nightlife said: What a complete shit show. I still can't get over how she was endorsing Trump as her son was getting arrested for assaulting his girlfriend. I know this is off-topic but UUUUUGHHH. The Palin's are such an adorable family. They should have dinner with the Duggars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siddharth_471 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Well, a single instagram photo has attracted attention of many websites. I wish they are actually recording or if they are recording vocals now majority of the album might be completed unless they are just demoing it. Trump's hypocrisy can be a subject in the album but presenting it in a rock opera style like AI or 21stCB (in my opinion) will be a lazy choice. They must produce it with more downtunings and distortion, what I think they couldn't in the trilogy while it was a good attempt musically. AI was a great attempt for a renaissance, but right now they should make the album with a more live feel to it without much overproduction and must be a kickass answer to those who question them of being true punk. Not only themselves, they need to bring back a whole form of music. \m/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 38 minutes ago, Siddharth_471 said: Well, a single instagram photo has attracted attention of many websites. I wish they are actually recording or if they are recording vocals now majority of the album might be completed unless they are just demoing it. Trump's hypocrisy can be a subject in the album but presenting it in a rock opera style like AI or 21stCB (in my opinion) will be a lazy choice. They must produce it with more downtunings and distortion, what I think they couldn't in the trilogy while it was a good attempt musically. AI was a great attempt for a renaissance, but right now they should make the album with a more live feel to it without much overproduction and must be a kickass answer to those who question them of being true punk. Not only themselves, they need to bring back a whole form of music. \m/ How about we just let them do what they want, and stop saying what they "must," "should" and "need to" do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said: How about we just let them do what they want, and stop saying what they "must," "should" and "need to" do? I wish I could like this 10,000 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Baby Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 7 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said: How about we just let them do what they want, and stop saying what they "must," "should" and "need to" do? Because they did what they wanted last time and it was awful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Just now, Lady Nightlife said: Because they did what they wanted last time and it was awful? Eh, I don't know if I necessarily agree with that. I think they did what they thought they needed to do, and what was ~cool at the time. I think they were thinking about how to stay relevant in the mainstream more than anything. I mean, Angry Birds? Really? I doubt they wanted that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Baby Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Just now, AlissaGoesRAWR said: Eh, I don't know if I necessarily agree with that. I think they did what they thought they needed to do, and what was ~cool at the time. I think they were thinking about how to stay relevant in the mainstream more than anything. I mean, Angry Birds? Really? I doubt they wanted that. They did make a very big deal in the promotion about how this album was them just doing what they wanted and all that stuff though!! I don't think the promotion was necessarily everything they dreamed of but the albums themselves were very much marketed as Green Day "doing their own thing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said: Eh, I don't know if I necessarily agree with that. I think they did what they thought they needed to do, and what was ~cool at the time. I think they were thinking about how to stay relevant in the mainstream more than anything. I mean, Angry Birds? Really? I doubt they wanted that. 2 minutes ago, Lady Nightlife said: They did make a very big deal in the promotion about how this album was them just doing what they wanted and all that stuff though!! I don't think the promotion was necessarily everything they dreamed of but the albums themselves were very much marketed as Green Day "doing their own thing." They may have marketed it as Green Day doing what they want, but I think Alissa nailed it. They were doing what they thought they needed to do. AI was Green Day doing what they wanted to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Just now, Lady Nightlife said: They did make a very big deal in the promotion about how this album was them just doing what they wanted and all that stuff though!! I don't think the promotion was necessarily everything they dreamed of but the albums themselves were very much marketed as Green Day "doing their own thing." Again, which means, in my opinion, the albums probably weren't them "doing their own thing" at all. I still say the whole hype around the trilogy was an attempt to market the "hey look, it's a 'back to their roots' album, give us money!" vibe that they knew people wanted. It all just seemed very, very forced and not very creative at all. Even the image of it was very try-hard, like a bunch of old guys trying to stay cool. If you have to keep repeatedly telling people you had fun recording it, I begin to question that statement. Show us with the music and tour, don't just keep talking about the "fun" while you're secretly on the verge of an alcohol/drug-induced meltdown! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthehallwaynow Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Lady Nightlife said: probably because 21CBD spoilers were actually good and the album wasn't a profound disappointment egg xactly! haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Baby Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 1 minute ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said: Again, which means, in my opinion, the albums probably weren't them "doing their own thing" at all. I still say the whole hype around the trilogy was an attempt to market the "hey look, it's a 'back to their roots' album, give us money!" vibe that they knew people wanted. It all just seemed very, very forced and not very creative at all. Even the image of it was very try-hard, like a bunch of old guys trying to stay cool. If you have to keep repeatedly telling people you had fun recording it, I begin to question that statement. Show us with the music and tour, don't just keep talking about the "fun" while you're secretly on the verge of an alcohol/drug-induced meltdown! I agree with that, that it seemed very forced. They talked about how fun it was to make the albums and how creative they were being and then spent a good chunk of the tour playing Dookie in full and only playing a couple of songs off their new albums that they were touring to promote. Still, part of me wants to take their word at face value because otherwise you go down a sort of unhealthy rabbit hole where you question everything and think there's more to everything that they say/do than there really is. The fact is, they told us they were having fun, doing what they wanted, etc. with those albums, and until they come out and say that wasn't the case, I'll believe it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, Lady Nightlife said: I agree with that, that it seemed very forced. They talked about how fun it was to make the albums and how creative they were being and then spent a good chunk of the tour playing Dookie in full and only playing a couple of songs off their new albums that they were touring to promote. Still, part of me wants to take their word at face value because otherwise you go down a sort of unhealthy rabbit hole where you question everything and think there's more to everything that they say/do than there really is. The fact is, they told us they were having fun, doing what they wanted, etc. with those albums, and until they come out and say that wasn't the case, I'll believe it You know me, I always believe there's more to the story than what's told at face value! That's how PR works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Baby Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Just now, AlissaGoesRAWR said: You know me, I always believe there's more to the story than what's told at face value! That's how PR works. You should go do some digging on it, little miss journalist. For science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siddharth_471 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 35 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said: How about we just let them do what they want, and stop saying what they "must," "should" and "need to" do? LOL! Sorry if I'm sounding like dictating here but I get pretty excited when talking about their sound for next record I don't want them to "do what I like, forget the rest!", it'll never happen and I'll appreciate any direction they go, I've always. I'm just trying to have my general opinion, nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 19 hours ago, Lady Nightlife said: I agree with that, that it seemed very forced. They talked about how fun it was to make the albums and how creative they were being and then spent a good chunk of the tour playing Dookie in full and only playing a couple of songs off their new albums that they were touring to promote. Still, part of me wants to take their word at face value because otherwise you go down a sort of unhealthy rabbit hole where you question everything and think there's more to everything that they say/do than there really is. The fact is, they told us they were having fun, doing what they wanted, etc. with those albums, and until they come out and say that wasn't the case, I'll believe it Excuse u they were SUPER creative Billie wrote 99 Revolutions, aka "The greatest song of all time!" (Source: Billie Joe Armstrong) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 19 hours ago, Lady Nightlife said: I agree with that, that it seemed very forced. They talked about how fun it was to make the albums and how creative they were being and then spent a good chunk of the tour playing Dookie in full and only playing a couple of songs off their new albums that they were touring to promote. Still, part of me wants to take their word at face value because otherwise you go down a sort of unhealthy rabbit hole where you question everything and think there's more to everything that they say/do than there really is. The fact is, they told us they were having fun, doing what they wanted, etc. with those albums, and until they come out and say that wasn't the case, I'll believe it Mike explained the songs on the tour thing and it matches exactly what GD has always done on tour they play 6-7 songs from whatever the new album is and play the old stuff for the rest and as Mike said on the radio they chose to treat the trilogy as a single album they played 7 songs from the trilogy per night as they've done since Dookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I think it's likely they did what they wanted musically with every album, might not always turn out to be to as many people's tastes but that doesn't mean it was any less genuine/inspired. As far as playing songs live goes they're nearly always chicken about playing new songs , AI was the exception but I think usually they value the crowd definitely knowing the songs and having a great time singing along over anything and don't mind so much whether it happens to be old or new songs, they just get the most enjoyment from playing songs that they feel are sure to achieve that reaction. I do think they're overly cautious about how well known a setlist has to be to achieve it (especially at small secret shows packed with hardcore Green Day fans), but I think that's the reason for often not playing much new stuff rather than it being an indication that they're not into it. You can see how worried they get about the idea of playing songs the crowd might not know whenever they get asked about why they don't play this song or that, and if you look at setlists through the years you can see only playing the same few songs from a new album and mostly sticking with the hits is standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solongfromthestars Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Yeah, I think with Billie's rehab and most people not liking the trilogy, it's easy to assume the band weren't into it either when that isn't the case. I remember Billie hyping up 21CB with stuff like "this is the best thing we've ever done" and people said then that the band weren't into it when they ended up not liking the album. They seemed as genuine to me about both that and the trilogy (music-wise, at least) as they did with anything before, though. I don't think they're the kind of people who'd do something they weren't into just to please the fans/mainstream/whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe. Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 On 21/01/2016 at 4:05 PM, AlissaGoesRAWR said: How about we just let them do what they want, and stop saying what they "must," "should" and "need to" do? Wanted to like this but am "not allowed to give reputation to this user"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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