Jon Benjamin Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Is anyone gonna acknowledge the fact that Fall Out Boy double booked that day, still a small chance they could pick the other charity show in DC over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haushinka! Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I completely understand not liking Fall Out Boy, but this is so patently false it pained me to read. You can hate their studio stuff but live they sound very much like the recordingsI can't speak for the person that posted that (the quote you're referring to) but I'm pretty sure it was hyperbole. Either way, it's all a matter of opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z J Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I still don't like them, and record sales don't make you a great band. But I guess FOB is better than Blink 182 never commented on their abilities, only their relevance. I can't speak for the person that posted that (the quote you're referring to) but I'm pretty sure it was hyperbole. Either way, it's all a matter of opinion. Whether or not they are good is indeed an opinion, I personally don't think they're great but that's not what we're talking about. They sound live like they do in the studio. And they are relevant and logical as a choice to induct them. If I could think of someone willing and even more appropriate, I would, but I can't, and nobody else has. People seem to think that their own personal taste is what determines whether the inductor is appropriate. I personally don't have any issue with Fall Out Boy as a band. They have some good songs, but I don't think they were the right choice to induct GD. We are all GD fans and we have all heard the shit: "They suck", "They are sell outs", "They don't deserve to be in the hall", etc. Having the right person speak on their behalf would have really shut some of the haters up, at least briefly. I would have loved to see someone with alot of industry cred induct them. Roger Daltrey would have been nice, or even Alice Cooper, he has always spoken nicely about them. Now they have chosen someone who gets more shit than they do, it seems like they have almost fallen off the radar. Some of the articles didn't even mention GD and Fall Out Boy, but mentioned the Paul Butterfield Band. Having someone with alot industry cred induct them would not have converted any fans, but it might have briefly shut them up. Let's hope they put on a show that will shut some people up. I understand this sentiment exactly. Green Day has (from Insomniac on, really) deserved more than they were given credit for. I would love to see them do something amazing again to shut those people up, but realistically Fall Out Boy works (if that's who actually inducts them). I agree that those same people who have criticized Green Day will do the same for having another divisive band induct them, but fuck those people. Nobody who could REALISTICALLY induct them would shut those people up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Is anyone gonna acknowledge the fact that Fall Out Boy double booked that day, still a small chance they could pick the other charity show in DC over this. no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarahnade Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 In my post earlier, I sad that I was disappointed that Fall Out Boy was chosen, regardless of the fact that I like Fall Out Boy. That was probably worded poorly. I guess surprised would have been a more appropriate way to put it. But the more I think about it the more I think it makes sense. Usually the people that induct an artist have been significantly impacted by the inductee. With that in mind, Fall Out Boy makes sense, and I'd much rather see Fall Out Boy induct them over some of the other bands that could have. (Blink-182, All Time Low, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Fall Out Boy are supposed to play in Washington DC April 18 Depending what time their show is and the HOF timeframe it could be doable to do both flights to Cleveland to DC aren't long flights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Benjamin Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Depending what time their show is and the HOF timeframe it could be doable to do both flights to Cleveland to DC aren't long flightsAll the equipment and crew though it just seems unrealistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnoDosTre123 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Okay so can anyone record this and make a DVD Copy? Or do they do that anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarahnade Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 All the equipment and crew though it just seems unrealistic No one said Fall Out Boy was performing. If they're just there to induct Green Day then they don't need their equipment and it's totally plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myinsanescenario Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Ok so this is coming from a huge fan of both FOB and GD, I'm really excited to see both bands but I understand why people may be disappointed. FOB is a newer band compared to GD and aren't really known to be close friends with the guys. But it makes sense in the fact that FOB is already familiar with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (some props and things from their last cycle's music video's are on display currently) and the members of FOB have stated multiple times that Green Day was one of their primary influences being that they grew up with Dookie and what not. As for people saying that FOB has gone pop...I don't know if you heard the trilogy but...that was pretty damn poppy. And another thing, when did pop become a four letter word in music? Pop music is literally anything on the charts, it's not a genre so maybe take it down a notch. Finally I honestly I thought maybe Blink 182 would induct GD but then...well y'know that got fucked up and as for some of the other bands maybe they got asked and couldn't do it? (also FOB are supposed to be playing in D.C. on the 18th also so for all you know they will be backing out of the inductions since the show was booked before the hall?) Either way FOB are very eloquent speakers and huge Green Day fans in their own right so I'm sure you'll enjoy what they have to say despite wether or not you enjoy their music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakerattleandroll Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 OK, the most important question remains, though. Will we get a performance of this iconic masterpiece? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmALA8miQY8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdlyon Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Did not expect to see so much FOB hate in here I know I'll probably get shit for this but Patrick Stump is probably a better singer than Billie Joe (FOB's music isn't as good though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillieJoeObsesser Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I just think of the speeches the guys have done in the past for inducting Iggy and the Stooges or Guns n Roses and how their fans were probably not pleased of Green Day being the ones inducting them into the Hall of Fame. Green Day has had an influence with both of these bands and Fall Out Boy is now in this boat doing so for Green Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 The worst live band ever inducted the greatest live band ever. How sad! I saw Fall Out Boy live 2 weeks ago and it was one of the best concerts I've been to. Definitely not the worst live band. I am enjoying all this Fall Out Boy hate though. I feel like no matter who was chosen, people would be bitching about it. If you ask me Fall Out Boy are one of the best choices, they're relevant, influenced by Green Day and play similar style of music. I do feel like the way everyone is acting now would have been the same when Guns N Roses fans found out Green Day was inducting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoodleBob Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 What did your mother do to you? oh my god grow up please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I do feel like the way everyone is acting now would have been the same when Guns N Roses fans found out Green Day was inducting them. It was an insult to Green Day to have them induct Guns 'N' Roses tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I take a week-long hiatus from GDC and the world punishes me by breaking this news on the day I decide to return, jfc. I believe I posted a while back something along the lines of "as long as it's not Fall Out Boy, All Time Low or 5SOS I don't care who it is..." UGH. At least all the tickets are pretty much sold, so I (hopefully) won't have to deal with Fall Out Boy fanboys/girls at the event. I would have been furious if Blink-182 had inducted them. What a hot mess. Excuse you. i dont dislike fall out boy at all, i loved them when i was a teenager and i still think their earlier albums are pretty great but ngl i'm super disappointed by this. i think i was just hoping for someone more respected in the industry to induct them, green day get shit on so much and this is such a big deal for them it would have been nice for them to gain some credibility from it. i feel like i've spent the past ten years of being a gd fan waiting for them to get in the hall of fame and now they're being inducted by fucking pete wentz and it's just hilarious This is basically my thought process. It's hard for me to put into words, because Take This To Your Grave is one of my favorite albums ever, but Fall Out Boy has always been so polarizing to me. When they first became big, I hated them. Then after they fell off the radar for a while, I thought to myself "Hey, they really aren't that bad" and I was excited for their return. Then I couldn't even get through one full listen of their new album without immediately selling it to the exchange store in town. Now, if I hear that "remember meeeee for centurieeeees" song one more time I'm going to repeatedly bash my head on pavement. Basically, to me, Fall Out Boy represents the epitome of a band whose members abandoned the musical style that got them famous and became commercial. You can spin that as "reinventing" themselves or "selling out," but either way, they're as polarizing as Green Day when it comes to that argument. So, I guess it makes sense for Fall Out Boy to induct Green Day, due to the similarity of their paths thus far, although I think it does little to nothing for Green Day's credibility to have a band like Fall Out Boy induct them, and that's what sucks. Green Day has done so much more for music than Fall Out Boy ever will, when you look at their entire career, but they'll always get lumped into the "early 2000s emo band" image, and this pretty much affirms that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Light Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Fall Out Boy are pop. Green Day are pop. Foo Fighters are pop. Taylor Swift is pop. I like pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 It's just weird to act like he's such a better musician than the members Fall Out Boy. His music is very bland and uninspired, and people (especially in "punk" circles) love to praise him and I never really understood why. It baffles me that there are people above the age of 15 who actively denounce pop music on the grounds that it is pop music. I'm not saying all pop music is good, that'd be just as stupid, but a whole chunk of it is a lot more interesting than whatever Grohl is doing. Nirvana, Queens of the Stone Age and Them Crooked Vultures are all amazing, very much inspired including the drums. The Foo Fighters aren't the most interesting band on earth but they're decent, better than FOB at least. Plus he seems very likeable. So don't see much reason to dislike him. I agree with you about disliking something just because it's pop but I don't care if something is pop or not, I like all kinds of different music, I just don't think FOB are very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Nirvana, Queens of the Stone Age and Them Crooked Vultures are all amazing, very much inspired including the drums. The Foo Fighters aren't the most interesting band on earth but they're decent, better than FOB at least. Plus he seems very likeable. So don't see much reason to dislike him. I agree with you about disliking something just because it's pop but I don't care if something is pop or not, I like all kinds of different music, I just don't think FOB are very good. Dave didn't really have that much input with Nirvana 90% of Nevermind he was doing Chad's parts and even half of IU were pre Dave songs But Dave is very likable and friendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malleus Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Nirvana, Queens of the Stone Age and Them Crooked Vultures are all amazing, very much inspired including the drums. The Foo Fighters aren't the most interesting band on earth but they're decent, better than FOB at least. Plus he seems very likeable. So don't see much reason to dislike him. I agree with you about disliking something just because it's pop but I don't care if something is pop or not, I like all kinds of different music, I just don't think FOB are very good. I would hardly call QotSA and TCV amazing, and I don't think Dave had much of a say in anything creatively with Nirvana but I could be wrong. If so, props to him for that. I really don't understand how somebody could possibly like Foo Fighters more than FOB, opinions aside. Listen to the last three FOB records compared to the last three FF ones. Foo Fighters are just cookie cutter rock and there isn't really anything going on but. FOB is a lot more varied and there is a lot more experimentation with different sounds and styles than on quite possibly anything that Dave has been a part of. Not to mention that it's successful with critics and fans alike. They also managed to basically reinvent themselves after being one of the most popular pop punk bands around, and are still totally relevant today. This only really proves that they are catchy and likeable, which is pretty subjective so whatever haha. What isn't subjective (to me anyway) is how much more there is to find in their music. I'm sure Dave is a nice guy I guess but I don't know, that doesn't really matter. Also didn't he say something about music is only made with guitars or some bullshit relatively along those lines? That attitude is incredibly stupid and unfortunately prevalent in a lot of places on the internet. FYI, I enjoyed Wasting Light a lot and obviously I love Nirvana. There is nothing inherently wrong with his output, I just find it so... whatever. It's just there. This is getting pretty broken recordy so I'll probably stop replying because I'm sure you have lots of better things to do, but I just can't accept that Dave Grohl is a better musician or artist than FOB as a group. It is not true and an insult to creativity and popular music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 While I don't really know FOB but I will say Dave is a better musician as he's a skilled musician on various instruments from drums to guitar to bass to piano and others Also the first two FF albums was all Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malleus Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 While I don't really know FOB but I will say Dave is a better musician as he's a skilled musician on various instruments from drums to guitar to bass to piano and others Also the first two FF albums was all Dave Being skilled at playing instruments technically does not automatically guarantee that whatever you make will be good. Also just because I'm such a Negative Nancy I'd probably throw out there that I don't believe it's fair to say that he's better at guitar, bass, piano and whatever others encompases than the members of FOB. I'm not gonna take drums away from the guy though. He's good at hitting the old drums. Okay, NOW I stop talking about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykee Mexx Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I'm not 100% sure on this but I believe it is the bands choice who inducts them. I think I read somewhere that they are given a list of potential inductors and the artist chooses from the list. Ah, okay. So maybe FOB was the best of the list for them... or the least annoying... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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