TheNimrodsPodcast Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Little Boy Named Airplane said: No it's Westbound Sign 4 hours ago, Christian's Inferno! said: Why? I quite like Westbound Sign Yeah I really need some explanation here... haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 40 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said: Lazy Bones does have some bad lyrics... (i.e. Everyone keeps talking and they can’t shut the fuck up cause I’m so tired) ...but overall I think it's solid lyrically, especially by trilogy standards Why is that a bad lyric? Ever be so hungover and sleep deprived that every noise pisses you off? Or maybe are lecturing you and you don’t want to hear it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bellie Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I'm listening to LBNT every day these days and it's the first I play when I grab my guitar The fact Billie can put a record with Bang Bang, Forever Now and Youngblood all at once makes it even better for me. They illustrate respectively the angry, epic and sappy sides he has, like Lazy Bones or Still Breathing would illustrate the more vulnerable side, and there are other songs that are more joyful like Bouncing off the Walls and LBNT. To each their favorite, but I don't get why disliking that you can have that much variety throughout the whole of the songs. I like Billie's badass side as much as I like his more romantic one, to the point of sounding sappy to some. Each side is better with the other. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Boy Named Booze Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, TheNimrodsPodcast said: Yeah I really need some explanation here... haha There is no explanation lol. I've just never like the song. Everytime this song pop on my cellphone I just skip it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 He may have been young writing When It's Time but he was just as young writing Dry Ice, 80 and all the other sappy love songs of the Lookout days which I think are a million times better. I think Lazy Bones is one of the best of the Trilogy myself, it's not incredible but it's pretty good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squashie Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 51 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: Why is that a bad lyric? Ever be so hungover and sleep deprived that every noise pisses you off? Or maybe are lecturing you and you don’t want to hear it? Wasn't Lazy Bones the one he mentioned about being the truth about his addiction? The lyrics spoke to his downward spiral? If you really listen to those lyrics almost scream "I need help!" I swear I heard him talk about that song, but I don't know/remember where I heard/read that. That opening 2 lines in the second verse, the way I see it, is him looking at himself in the mirror and seeing how bad he's spiraled down. Then it goes into describing his state of being - can't stand up, sick mentally & constantly hungover. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, DadBod said: Wasn't Lazy Bones the one he mentioned about being the truth about his addiction? The lyrics spoke to his downward spiral? If you really listen to those lyrics almost scream "I need help!" I swear I heard him talk about that song, but I don't know/remember where I heard/read that. That opening 2 lines in the second verse, the way I see it, is him looking at himself in the mirror and seeing how bad he's spiraled down. Then it goes into describing his state of being - can't stand up, sick mentally & constantly hungover. He was asked which songs were truer than people realized and he said Lazy Bones and that it made him well up. Might have been the RS interview 2013 State of Shock is another one that’s a cry for help 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squashie Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, pacejunkie punk said: He was asked which songs were truer than people realized and he said Lazy Bones and that it made him well up. Might have been the RS interview 2013 Yes! The RollingStone "back from hell" interview. He mentioned Basket Case in there as well. How people thought he was being all tounge-and-cheek, but he wasn't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Lazy Bones is actually one that feels very genuine. If I was to look at it from a purely technical point of view, I would say it has solid lyrics with a few moments that could be better...the "prisoner of war" line is a bit of a cliche imo and then he goes super edgy with the "you look like shit" part and that's just soooo trilogy compared to his more mature writing. None of this matters though. What's the point in dwelling on imperfections when Lazy Bones is just so fucking powerful. It conveys a feeling so strongly and relatably. Idk if this is something only I feel or if it can be universal, but in my opinion LB really does get across what it feels like to be depressed, tired and unable to sleep and just wanting it to stop. In my opinion there's artistic value in that in a "reporting what it's like" kind of way. A couple weeks ago I read Raymond Carver's A New Path To The Waterfall and although I feel blasphemous about saying so, it's a comparison I thought of. It's a very different kind of poetry and I'm not comparing the two qualitatively, but what's similar is that the book has some mixed reviews, but in the end what it boils down to is the experience that is shared. Idk I think Billie came close to that with LB, it may be imperfect but it's powerful. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNimrodsPodcast Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Little Boy Named Airplane said: There is no explanation lol. I've just never like the song. Everytime this song pop on my cellphone I just skip it. Haha fair enough. Revisit that sucker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said: Why is that a bad lyric? Ever be so hungover and sleep deprived that every noise pisses you off? Or maybe are lecturing you and you don’t want to hear it? Cause it's a nonsensical sentence. How is being tired a cause for everyone talking and not being able to shut up? I get the rest of the song, it has the contradictory writing that Billie's done before but that lyric specifically doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said: Cause it's a nonsensical sentence. How is being tired a cause for everyone talking and not being able to shut up? I get the rest of the song, it has the contradictory writing that Billie's done before but that lyric specifically doesn't make sense. This is a weak excuse, but is it even meant to be one sentence? It sounds like one and it's confusing, but at the same time, it makes sense for the verse to end and then the chorus is a new sentence. The causality is there though - he's tired so everyone talking annoys him lol. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacejunkie punk Posted July 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2019 Idk, to me lyrics are like poetry and when people take them and nitpick the grammar and punctuation it misses the point. When you understand the meaning in your gut and you feel it, it doesn’t matter if an English teacher would approve. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE THE X-KID Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Stop Drop and Roll is the best Green Day (not Green day) album 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squashie Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: Idk, to me lyrics are like poetry and when people take them and nitpick the grammar and punctuation it misses the point. When you understand the meaning in your gut and you feel it, it doesn’t matter if an English teacher would approve. Exactly. Music, or lyrics more specifically, aren't complete sentences, which is why they don't have ending punctuation. They're thoughts, stanzas and lines of imagery (sometimes metaphor) woven together to make the end user (us) feel the emotion the writer is/was feeling at the time. @Christian's Inferno! Hell, does Bohemian Rasphody make ANY sense? No. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 40 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: The causality is there though - he's tired so everyone talking annoys him lol. I feel like he has it backwards though. In the song he's saying everybody's talking and won't shut up BECAUSE he's tired. Surely he means he's tired BECAUSE everybody won't shut up, right? I know lyric writing isn't an English grammar exam but to me, it seems almost as nonsensical "BM-excellent tits". Is that poetry? Seriously though, I like the song and think the rest of it is well written. This lyric though seems a bit forced and it seems Billie Joe felt like he needed to end the verse on "cause I'm so tired" because that's how the first verse ended but it ends up making that particular lyric nonsensical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, Christian's Inferno! said: I feel like he has it backwards though. In the song he's saying everybody's talking and won't shut up BECAUSE he's tired. Surely he means he's tired BECAUSE everybody won't shut up, right? I know lyric writing isn't an English grammar exam but to me, it seems almost as nonsensical "BM-excellent tits". Is that poetry? Seriously though, I like the song and think the rest of it is well written. This lyric though seems a bit forced and it seems Billie Joe felt like he needed to end the verse on "cause I'm so tired" because that's how the first verse ended but it ends up making that particular lyric nonsensical I don't know m8 I think the "cause I'm tired" part doesn't belong to the verse at all plus I don't know, it's not the greatest line ever but also not that horrible. It sort of makes sense. Everyone keeps talking but it's annoying only because of his own tiredness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 10 hours ago, Adorkable said: You are dead to me C'mon - Enjoy Spoiler 12 hours ago, Hermione said: I'm not that keen on Last of the American Girls, ok?? Finally we agree on something. 10 hours ago, jengd said: I can forgive When It's Time easier than Amy, he was old enough to know better. Still think Amy is hands down the very worst song he's ever written and by a long way. Amy is great & Ive said it before I think different of it now @Second favourite son said BJ was writing it about himself. Where are you btw @Second favourite son 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joe. Posted July 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2019 If you take Amy for what it is then its quite beautiful 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 5 hours ago, PursuitOfEpicness said: Lazy Bones lyrics are bad, I said it Whaaat - I remember listening to Lazy Bones when BJ was in rehab - not ashamed to say it cut me up😰 1 hour ago, pacejunkie punk said: Idk, to me lyrics are like poetry and when people take them and nitpick the grammar and punctuation it misses the point. When you understand the meaning in your gut and you feel it, it doesn’t matter if an English teacher would approve. I was thinking about BJ's pronunciation when I was listening to Somewhere Now this morning - I still hear I shop online so I can boat at the speed of light - even the correct lyric still makes no sense to me but I guess he can feel it🤣 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BratReject23 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Haha to me it's unfair that call lazy bones a song with bad lyrics when a song called Ashley exists. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, John.reject23 said: Haha to me it's unfair that call lazy bones a song with bad lyrics when a song called Ashley exists. Yeah Ashley is SHITE 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Adorkable said: Hows this for an unpopular opinion, I fixed it for you. Coming from someone that enjoys KFAD - dam you bitch😍 The best thing about KFAD on the setlist is when we are all here watching the live threads & everyone discusses what they are going to do around the house for the 10 mins the song is on😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 33 minutes ago, John.reject23 said: Haha to me it's unfair that call lazy bones a song with bad lyrics when a song called Ashley exists. What's so bad about the lyrics to Ashley? I mean, they're not great but I don't recall them being particularly bad, at least by trilogy standards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PursuitOfEpicness Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Beerjeezus said: Lazy Bones is actually one that feels very genuine. If I was to look at it from a purely technical point of view, I would say it has solid lyrics with a few moments that could be better...the "prisoner of war" line is a bit of a cliche imo and then he goes super edgy with the "you look like shit" part and that's just soooo trilogy compared to his more mature writing. None of this matters though. What's the point in dwelling on imperfections when Lazy Bones is just so fucking powerful. It conveys a feeling so strongly and relatably. Idk if this is something only I feel or if it can be universal, but in my opinion LB really does get across what it feels like to be depressed, tired and unable to sleep and just wanting it to stop. In my opinion there's artistic value in that in a "reporting what it's like" kind of way. A couple weeks ago I read Raymond Carver's A New Path To The Waterfall and although I feel blasphemous about saying so, it's a comparison I thought of. It's a very different kind of poetry and I'm not comparing the two qualitatively, but what's similar is that the book has some mixed reviews, but in the end what it boils down to is the experience that is shared. Idk I think Billie came close to that with LB, it may be imperfect but it's powerful. I like your point, I wouldn't say it's not powerful but yeah i would say more cliche and immature. I guess I never really put myself in his shoes of having the addiction. I appreciate everyones points though! 40 minutes ago, John.reject23 said: Haha to me it's unfair that call lazy bones a song with bad lyrics when a song called Ashley exists. Ashley? It's eh, I wouldn't think that's the an unpopular opinion though. I knew my Lazy Bones one would stir the pot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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