Blasphemy & Genocide: Unpopular Green Day Opinions, Part 2

[MillenniumFan]

19 hours ago, MysticManiac said:

I'm not sure if this is an unpopular opinion, but I've been listening to Demolicious quite a lot recently and thinking about it now, I think it's probably the best GD album since 21CB. Lately, RevRad just hasn't been interesting me much recently, it's not been an album I've been coming back that much right now compared to when it was released, and I think the trilogy demos are better than the studio versions of the songs.

None of the demos of Demolicious are worse than the studio version. Some of them are pretty much on par with the studio version but quite a few of them are much better than their studio version. The intro on Baby Eyes alone makes it better than the Dos version (that bass!), 99 Revolutions demo is better, Angel Blue is better, Carpe Diem, Sex Drugs & Violence, Stay the Night, Nuclear Family. I think the only ones that aren't better are Ashley, Stray Heart, Oh Love and Missing You. Although the change of lyrics on Oh Love and Let Yourself Go does annoy me cause I think they're dumb lyrics and the absence of some lyrics on Ashley annoy me.

Unfortunately I may have to agree. Though there are some really good songs on RevRad, the same goes for the trilogy. So, if I were to compare those two, it would probably be a tie. However, the thing that bugs me the most about RevRad is the mixing and general production. It just sounds, I don’t know, slightly off and almost cheap I guess. I should probably add that I don’t like the production on the trilogy either (it’s way too clean and those vocal filters just annoy the sh** out of me), but RevRad’s production somehow seems thin, tinny and heavily compressed. This all means that Demolicious, though it’s essentially just raw demos, actually sounds better to my ears than both RevRad and the trilogy. 

I really think that Green Day haven‘t brought out an album with great production since American Idiot (even 21CB felt weird). I really hope the next album will be better when it comes to production (i.e. 3 conditions: 1. classic GD heavily distorted guitars 2. no or only few fancy vocal filters 3. proper studio, proper mixing and mastering)

[pacejunkie punk]

I wonder what studio they’ll use to record the next album. It’s been hinted they want a more ambitious production for next time so Otis won’t cut it. Jingletown is gone so will they go back to LA and work with Rob Cavallo again?

[MillenniumFan]

I hope they do another full-fleshed, studio recorded album again, with Rob Cavallo as producer and Chris Lord-Alge doing the mixing. 

[DeJennsitized]

2 hours ago, Montclare said:

Popular opinion- yes, Suffocate should have been on Nimrod.  Unpopular opinion- I wouldn't use it to replace LRI; I'd replace Haushinka.  Only song on Nimrod I could never get into.

I agree with this so much

[UNICORN VOMIT]

27 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

 It’s been hinted they want a more ambitious production for next time so Otis won’t cut it.

When/what was the hint?

[pacejunkie punk]

Just now, SHART said:

When/what was the hint?

It was one of @LaughingClock ‘s little gems.

[UNICORN VOMIT]

3 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

It was one of @LaughingClock ‘s little gems.

haha @LaughingClock's posts are too long for SHART's short attention span

[pacejunkie punk]

39 minutes ago, SHART said:

haha @LaughingClock's posts are too long for SHART's short attention span

Only when he includes videos to suppprt his argument 😄

[Jesus of Seneca]

8 hours ago, Montclare said:

Unpopular opinion- I wouldn't use it to replace LRI; I'd replace Haushinka.  Only song on Nimrod I could never get into.

[jengd]

15 hours ago, Stefano Bras said:

Sorry if that came off as passive agressive, my point was that this thread pisses me off but I still enjoy it.

Totally with you on that.

16 hours ago, Montclare said:

Popular opinion- yes, Suffocate should have been on Nimrod.  Unpopular opinion- I wouldn't use it to replace LRI; I'd replace Haushinka.  Only song on Nimrod I could never get into.

How can anyone not like Haushinka?  What's not to like?

[DeJennsitized]

1 hour ago, jengd said:

How can anyone not like Haushinka?  What's not to like?

For me it's the verses - I just don't really like the arrangement with all the drum rolls and stuff. I think it drowns out Billie's voice. I like the chorus though!

[jengd]

4 minutes ago, ¡Jenn! said:

For me it's the verses - I just don't really like the arrangement with all the drum rolls and stuff. I think it drowns out Billie's voice. I like the chorus though!

Not really serious, of course anyone can like or not every song, but it's interesting, given that we are all here because we are Green Day fans, how just about every time someone says "oh I don't like that much" someone goes "what?"  Healthy though.

[MillenniumFan]

I think Haushinka is a masterpiece. I guess if people have the criticism that Green Day just write three power cord songs, then they should listen to this (and Panic Song as well as some of the bass lines on Kerplunk). Not that I agree with the principle of that criticism though...

[DeJennsitized]

54 minutes ago, jengd said:

Not really serious, of course anyone can like or not every song, but it's interesting, given that we are all here because we are Green Day fans, how just about every time someone says "oh I don't like that much" someone goes "what?"  Healthy though.

Oh I know, but just thought I'd explain why it's not one of my favourites anyway  

15 minutes ago, MillenniumFan said:

I think Haushinka is a masterpiece. I guess if people have the criticism that Green Day just write three power cord songs, then they should listen to this (and Panic Song as well as some of the bass lines on Kerplunk). Not that I agree with the principle of that criticism though...

There are like a million other songs that demonstrate GD's range beyond three power chords better than Haushinka  

[Montclare]

2 hours ago, jengd said:

How can anyone not like Haushinka?  What's not to like?

I don't hate it.  It just doesn't stand out as anything special to me.  It could be that there are so many other fabulous songs on Nimrod that it just feels like filler.

[Hermione]

I think you can tell Haushinka was written when they were much younger, it's not really the same level lyrically. But it's fun to hear a Kerplunk era song Nimrod era style, and I like how Jinx leads into it. Another song that makes the album more varied and interesting.

Totally disagree with the idea of replacing Take Back and Last Ride In with Suffocate and Desensitized . They're great songs but the beauty of Nimrod is it's variety and quirkiness, replacing two of the most unique songs with two much more standard GD sounding ones would diminish it. 

I think the worst song on Nimrod is Reject, probably the least interesting sounding and the whole "I do what I want and you do what you're told" thing comes off as a bit immature edgy teenager even if it's still enjoyable . I still want it on there though, Nimrod doesn't need changing in any way.

[pacejunkie punk]

57 minutes ago, Hermione said:

I think the worst song on Nimrod is Reject, probably the least interesting sounding and the whole "I do what I want and you do what you're told" thing comes off as a bit immature edgy teenager even if it's still enjoyable . I still want it on there though, Nimrod doesn't need changing in any way.

I love Reject. It’s catchy and has a funny story behind it. That line you quote was taken verbatim from his own letter to that angry parent complaining that they were trash. I loved his response, both the letter and the song.

[Hermione]

1 hour ago, pacejunkie punk said:

I love Reject. It’s catchy and has a funny story behind it. That line you quote was taken verbatim from his own letter to that angry parent complaining that they were trash. I loved his response, both the letter and the song.

Yeah I'm entertained by the letter and the song. Both of them are still a bit edgy teen though  

[pacejunkie punk]

5 minutes ago, Hermione said:

Yeah I'm entertained by the letter and the song. Both of them are still a bit edgy teen though  

Yeah, I think when you’re being reprimanded by someone’s mom you’re gonna sound like an edgy teen no matter what you do 😄

[pouty bitch]

I absolutely love Reject. It was one of the first GD album tracks I ever heard, and Nimrod has been my fave GD album ever since. Plus, that letter was hilarious.

[pacejunkie punk]

26 minutes ago, G-L-O-R-I-A said:

I absolutely love Reject. It was one of the first GD album tracks I ever heard, and Nimrod has been my fave GD album ever since. Plus, that letter was hilarious.

It was on point. I don’t write songs for parents, I don’t write songs for eight year olds, I write songs for me, end of discussion. You don’t like it don’t buy it. 

[LaughingClock]

22 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said:

Only when he includes videos to suppprt his argument 😄

I just love when you guys talk about me. It makes my ears tingle and then I log on here. I hope you’re all wonderful.

Sorry about my long winded posts. It’s pretty unquestionable. I think too much and type so fast. I’m sort of the Alexander Hamilton of this forum. I am writing like I’m running out of time.

And do I really use video to accompany my posts?

 

 

[The Bellie]

On 05/11/2017 at 2:08 AM, MysticManiac said:

None of the demos of Demolicious are worse than the studio version. Some of them are pretty much on par with the studio version but quite a few of them are much better than their studio version. The intro on Baby Eyes alone makes it better than the Dos version (that bass!), 99 Revolutions demo is better, Angel Blue is better, Carpe Diem, Sex Drugs & Violence, Stay the Night, Nuclear Family. I think the only ones that aren't better are Ashley, Stray Heart, Oh Love and Missing You. Although the change of lyrics on Oh Love and Let Yourself Go does annoy me cause I think they're dumb lyrics and the absence of some lyrics on Ashley annoy me.

My unpopular opinion is that the final versions of the trilogy songs are better, as a whole, than the Demolicious versions. I absolutely love Demolicious, I find a unique vibe to it, but if I had to choose, I'd choose the trilogy versions of the same songs; I'd mostly be missing some vocal feats of Billie's on Demolicious, and also the bridge lyrics in Let Yourself Go and Oh Love, Demolicious versions (so we do agree on that, if I understand your post's end well), even though I'm not sure to hear well what Billie says on the bridge of Demo Oh Love, but I'm fascinated by his voice there that I find astonishing, and I would like to know exactly what he says:

4 hours ago, Hermione said:

I think you can tell Haushinka was written when they were much younger, it's not really the same level lyrically. But it's fun to hear a Kerplunk era song Nimrod era style, and I like how Jinx leads into it. Another song that makes the album more varied and interesting.

Totally disagree with the idea of replacing Take Back and Last Ride In with Suffocate and Desensitized . They're great songs but the beauty of Nimrod is it's variety and quirkiness, replacing two of the most unique songs with two much more standard GD sounding ones would diminish it. 

I think the worst song on Nimrod is Reject, probably the least interesting sounding and the whole "I do what I want and you do what you're told" thing comes off as a bit immature edgy teenager even if it's still enjoyable . I still want it on there though, Nimrod doesn't need changing in any way.

Haushinka is one of my least favorite songs of Nimrod, but I'm far from disliking it, and hand in hand with Jinx it sounds amazing.  

I love Suffocate and Desensitized quite more but I don't think they would have fitted so well on Nimrod.

Walking Alone and Reject are my favorite pair on Nimrod, that line "I do what I want and you do what you're told" in Reject seems so essential to me, and I don't think at all it comes off as a bit immature; though I can get why you say so.

[Christian's Inferno!]

Regarding Nimrod, I think Reject is one of the better songs. It's just so old-school Green Day. And besides, that mom that wrote that letter was an idiot! She was complaining about Insomniac when Dookie was exactly the same, talking about masturbation and getting stoned 

I'd say my least favourite tracks on Nimrod are Last Ride In (pure filler!), Good Riddance (most overrated GD song) and Walking Alone (just a meh track) but there are still another few tracks that I could live without. Nimrod is one of my least favourite GD albums which I think is an unpopular opinion. Most people have that album quite high in their album rankings

[pouty bitch]

^^^ I totally agree with what you said about Walking Alone. I didn't know if it was unpopular or not, so I never thought to mention it in this thread. I don't hate it, but it's nothing special, imo. Plus, I find the harmonica kind of annoying.