The Bellie Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 To me, for now, 2013 and 2017 are Green Day's best years of performance. I wasn't there before this tour but have seen more than enough videos to compare and have my idea of their peek level of performance. It is now. Maybe it hasn't been reached yet. To me, they have kept improving tour after tour, individually (especially Billie, since 2013 as for audience participation, stage presence, and as for his voice particularly in 2017) as well as collectively. I'm not speaking about the setlist but what I see whatever they're playing. Of course, they have always been amazing, but I don't see like a golden age that would be behind us or anything like that. The golden age, in terms of performance, is now. I think Billie has never been a more talented frontman, and Green Day have never been a more powerful band before. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillenniumFan Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Nah, I think his voice was better 2005-2010. I think it could be almost just as good if he took some vocal lessons to relearn how to sing sober again, but he doesn’t seem to want to, so that’s fine. I guess I have accepted that his voice is different these days, not necessarily worse. But somehow I just can’t stop myself from thinking that it used to be better. However, again, I think he could improve his voice further if he took lessons, so I strongly hope he considers it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 12 minutes ago, MillenniumFan said: Nah, I think his voice was better 2005-2010. I think it could be almost just as good if he took some vocal lessons to relearn how to sing sober again, but he doesn’t seem to want to, so that’s fine. I guess I have accepted that his voice is different these days, not necessarily worse. But somehow I just can’t stop myself from thinking that it used to be better. However, again, I think he could improve his voice further if he took lessons, so I strongly hope he considers it. I hate to say it but I tend to agree. Whether it’s sobriety (I don’t think so), age, wear and tear, years of abuse or asthma (all of the above more likely) his range sounds more limited than in years past. It sounds like more of a strain for him? I don’t know how to describe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 I've never heard of becoming sober being something that negatively affects someone's singing voice. A range of things could've affected it but I don't think "learning to sing sober" is really a thing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 After a year of touring, it's most likely just strain. He's been sick several times during the tour and has asthma - neither helps the voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bellie Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: I hate to say it but I tend to agree. Whether it’s sobriety (I don’t think so), age, wear and tear, years of abuse or asthma (all of the above more likely) his range sounds more limited than in years past. It sounds like more of a strain for him? I don’t know how to describe it. I don't see how his range is more limited than in years past. I was talking about his voice first, not even his range, his voice has indeed evolved and I like it better now than ever. But his range has widened if anything. On my best days I can reach the lowest and the highest of Still Breathing all in one time. It's the first song that causes me this difficulty, while Billie does it well every night, near the end of the show. Just an example... but every song he has sung in the past, I love it more the way he sings it now. More powerful, sexier, thicker voice. It could be purely a matter of taste. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UNICORN VOMIT Posted November 3, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2017 4 hours ago, Hermione said: A range of things could've affected it but I don't think "learning to sing sober" is really a thing Sobriety certainly hasn't helped him remember the lyrics 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatsername Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 I agree that his voice sounds different than it did in 2010 - a bit rougher and crackier. But it's completely natural that voices change when you're aging. I'm not the biggest fan of Billie's voice when he was really young. His "older" voice just sounds more interesting because it's not so perfect and polished and "boyish". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 4 hours ago, Thatsername said: I agree that his voice sounds different than it did in 2010 - a bit rougher and crackier. But it's completely natural that voices change when you're aging. I'm not the biggest fan of Billie's voice when he was really young. His "older" voice just sounds more interesting because it's not so perfect and polished and "boyish". At 45 it shouldn’t change that much. I know singers in their 60’s that still sound as good as they ever did and others that don’t, but you shouldn’t start to hear a difference in quality at 45. I agree with @MillenniumFan that like any instrument, it needs to be taken care of for long term performance, and lessons are part of that to avoid damage, or he won’t be singing at all or sounding anything like what you know in his 60’s (or even end up with surgery like Elton John and others did). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bellie Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 9 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said: At 45 it shouldn’t change that much. I know singers in their 60’s that still sound as good as they ever did and others that don’t, but you shouldn’t start to hear a difference in quality at 45. I agree with @MillenniumFan that like any instrument, it needs to be taken care of for long term performance, and lessons are part of that to avoid damage, or he won’t be singing at all or sounding anything like what you know in his 60’s (or even end up with surgery like Elton John and others did). I think there are as many specific cases as there are singers, and yeah Billie's voice has changed, but whether you associate that with reduced quality or improved quality is most certainly a matter of taste. I just prefer his current voice, by far, especially when it comes to live performances. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerjeezus Posted November 3, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2017 He doesn't sound bad at all 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 He sounds awesome and 45 is most definitely an age where you start to hear a difference. It is not as drastic as when you are older, but the more powerful the voice the more likely you are to lose some of it as you age. It is just a natural progression 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeJennsitized Posted November 3, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2017 As long as Billie always sounds like he has a cold, all is right with the world 1 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 13 minutes ago, ¡Jenn! said: As long as Billie always sounds like he has a cold, all is right with the world Imagine this written on a soothing background like a motivational quote 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeJennsitized Posted November 3, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2017 9 minutes ago, Billie Joe Armstrong said: Imagine this written on a soothing background like a motivational quote Don't tell me to do something and expect me not to do it 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 19 minutes ago, ¡Jenn! said: Don't tell me to do something and expect me not to do it This is perfect I love it Am I allowed to use it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bellie Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Billie Joe Armstrong said: This is perfect I love it Am I allowed to use it? I was about to ask the same thing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pouty bitch Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I actually really like the RevRad music video. And I'm not a huge fan of the Still Breathing video. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeJennsitized Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 @Billie Joe Armstrong @Kuromignonne Of course you can use it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, ¡Jenn! said: @Billie Joe Armstrong @Kuromignonne Of course you can use it Thank you, I will use it gracefully 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bellie Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 7 hours ago, G-L-O-R-I-A said: I actually really like the RevRad music video. And I'm not a huge fan of the Still Breathing video. I love the SB video, for the emotion in it, for the way we see Billie and everything he does in it, and the fact there aren't playing the song all three together, Billie being alone and only joining them at the end, I love that. On the other hand, I don't like the fact other characters are in the video, I think (despite the lyrics: I'm like..., I'm like....) that they are unnecessary; at least, they didn't have to often be so literal a drawing of the lyrics - or to put it another way, I would have preferred these lyrics not to have necessarily been subject to a personalisation, outside of Billie. I would have liked to see a little bit how Billie personally relates to these comparisons, since they are his, if the camera had stayed focused on him. As for the RevRad video, it's of course very different, I love it too but less I think than the Still Breathing one, because I love too much what I see of Billie in this one, so for now the SB music video is probably my favorite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pouty bitch Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 33 minutes ago, Kuromignonne said: I love the SB video, for the emotion in it, for the way we see Billie and everything he does in it, and the fact there aren't playing the song all three together, Billie being alone and only joining them at the end, I love that. On the other hand, I don't like the fact other characters are in the video, I think (despite the lyrics: I'm like..., I'm like....) that they are unnecessary; at least, they didn't have to often be so literal a drawing of the lyrics - or to put it another way, I would have preferred these lyrics not to have necessarily been subject to a personalisation, outside of Billie. I would have liked to see a little bit how Billie personally relates to these comparisons, since they are his, if the camera had stayed focused on him. This is exactly the way I feel about it. I love how Mike and Tre are waiting for Billie and he finally comes back to them at the end. But the rest of the video, with all of the other people, just seems kinda unnecessary. They make it complicated and difficult to follow. I don't understand why some of those characters are there. It would've been much better if the video focused on just Billie, Mike and Tre, imo. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 28 minutes ago, G-L-O-R-I-A said: This is exactly the way I feel about it. I love how Mike and Tre are waiting for Billie and he finally comes back to them at the end. But the rest of the video, with all of the other people, just seems kinda unnecessary. They make it complicated and difficult to follow. I don't understand why some of those characters are there. It would've been much better if the video focused on just Billie, Mike and Tre, imo. Probably because he was determined that the song would have a universal message and not just be all about him. So many people connect with the song for their own personal reasons I think they just wanted the video to illustrate that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pouty bitch Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said: Probably because he was determined that the song would have a universal message and not just be all about him. So many people connect with the song for their own personal reasons I think they just wanted the video to illustrate that. Oh yeah, definitely. I understand that. The video just doesn't work for me personally, though. There's so much going on and it's difficult for me to follow - I prefer simplicity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacejunkie punk Posted November 4, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2017 Just now, G-L-O-R-I-A said: Oh yeah, definitely. I understand that. The video just doesn't work for me personally, though. There's so much going on and it's difficult for me to follow - I prefer simplicity. They're my least favorite parts of the video that's for sure, but that's mainly because I will prefer staring at Billie for three and a half minutes over just about anything 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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