gaslight13 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 16 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said: It's funny to hear everyone talk about how much better Green Day is than blink-182 because in my experience, when you bring up blink-182 in casual conversation with people my age, people typically are much more receptive to blink-182 than Green Day. I feel like being a blink-182 fan is much more "acceptable" and the band is more "mainstream," though that doesn't necessarily mean they're objectively better or long-lasting... that's just my anecdotal experience as a fan of both bands. That being said, most people who have more positive reactions to blink-182 are probably unaware they're even still a band. That's been my experience too. At least with casual music fans or people who aren't really punk fans. I think that's because Blink never really stopped being high school idiots and people look back fondly on their own youth. Green Day though got lumped in with bands like MCR, Panic At the Disco, and Fall Out Boy, none of which seem to be respected by anyone past their teens. Although it seems like most current punk bands/fans like and really respect Green Day and see beyond that stigma. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Yeah I can agree. Green Day probably seem quite uncool to outsiders At least that's how it looks to me. It wasn't until revrad came out that I noticed they are taken seriously (at least sometimes) and not seen as a band for little kids. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 11 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said: Honestly, I feel like it's hard to even fit them in the punk genre sometimes, but that's fine. I feel like "rock" is probably the best category if one is absolutely required, but regardless, people are going to get pissed off no matter what you call them. I will say this outloud, but I have always considered them more rock than punk 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaslight13 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 15 minutes ago, Scattered Wreck said: I will say this outloud, but I have always considered them more rock than punk Rock is such a broad term anyway and punk really encompasses a lot of different stuff as well. Take The Clash for example. Many see them as one of the most significant punk bands in history and yet they've got plenty of songs that are melodic and not what you think of when you think "punk". And I think whether or not a band has a punk mentality matters as well. So part of me agrees with you, but really I just see them as a band that can be described as punk but that it doesn't fully encompass their style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grohl Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 In my experience both Blink and GD are seen as "uncool." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 I know this is probably very unpopular but I think Neighborhoods and California (Regular and Deluxe) are the best Blink-182 albums and that every album before Neighborhoods is really overrated. I mean, they have some good songs on each of those albums but I don't see why everyone sees those albums as so good when they're pretty average imo. And also, I think that their albums prior to Enema of the State are absolutely terrible, don't understand why anyone would like them. I mean, I don't think Neighborhoods and California are fantastic albums but it's pretty dumb to hear all this criticism of Neighborhoods and California from people who think the rest of their work is masterful when really it isn't Green Day are so much better than Blink-182 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pouty bitch Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 It just think it's so annoying how some people classify every 2000s rock band as emo. To me, GD have a completely different sound to Blink-182, and the majority of GD's work is miles better than Blink. I think that the reason they get compared so often is because Blink started to get big around the same time that GD's popularity started to decline. People just wanted to create some kind of "rivalry" between them, imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bellie Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 8 hours ago, Scattered Wreck said: I will say this outloud, but I have always considered them more rock than punk And it's probably what allowed me to hear of them at first, I wasn't open enough to get into something simply labelled as punk. I had my head full of false preconceived notions about it. Anyways, Green Day are better than just punk. Unpopular opinions: 1) AI and 21CB are absolutely great albums, but the most depressing of the boys' discography. Whereas RevRad and the trilogy are the most rejoicing. 2) AI's lyrics are not better than the earlier albums. Billie's lyrics have always been excellent, even though not in a punchy way like on AI. AI makes some difference mostly musically. 3) Lyrically, the trilogy can easily compete with 21CB. Musically, it depends on the songs, but some trilogy songs have a better sound than any off 21CB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Kuromignonne said: 3) Lyrically, the trilogy can easily compete with 21CB. Musically, it depends on the songs, but some trilogy songs have a better sound than any off 21CB. Totally disagree - 21CB is their best album 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jollyroger118 Posted November 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2017 I got one. If Back in the USA ends up being a Chuck Berry cover I will never fucking forgive them. I wish they would've just said if it was or not cause I wanna be really excited but I can't be. Also I don't wanna quote the whole post above me but to say the trilogy lyrics are just as good as 21st CB is absolute insanity 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 9 hours ago, Jollyroger118 said: Also I don't wanna quote the whole post above me but to say the trilogy lyrics are just as good as 21st CB is absolute insanity Trilogy lyrics are just as good as 21cb. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Wish Green Day would change it up like Weezer and Linkin Park did on their recent records. Green Day is playing it way to safe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 3 hours ago, Eric said: Trilogy lyrics are just as good as 21cb. And the award for funniest post of the year goes toooooo Eric! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, WhiteTim said: And the award for funniest post of the year goes toooooo Eric! and the award for boring-est person of the year goes to.......WhiteTim! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 42 minutes ago, Eric said: and the award for boring-est person of the year goes to.......WhiteTim! Woo hoo I won! There are several songs with great lyrics on Trilogy like Brutal Love Lazy Bones X Kid but not on the same level as 21st Century imo 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, WhiteTim said: Woo hoo I won! There are several songs with great lyrics on Trilogy like Brutal Love Lazy Bones X Kid but not on the same level as 21st Century imo Good for you, but what this site fails to realize is that there are other opinions outside of what is "suppose to be normal" So your bullshit response to my response is not needed. A place to say the unpopular opinion without yourbullshit tim. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 3 hours ago, Eric said: Wish Green Day would change it up like Weezer and Linkin Park did on their recent records. Green Day is playing it way to safe! I'm ok with GD playing it safe when every other album since Warning has been a risk. AI was a risk, following that up with 21CB which was even more ambitious was a risk and making a trilogy of albums (which included experimental songs like Nightlife) was a risk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 minute ago, MysticManiac said: I'm ok with GD playing it safe when every other album since Warning has been a risk. AI was a risk, following that up with 21CB which was even more ambitious was a risk and making a trilogy of albums (which experimental included songs like Nightlife) was a risk. Calling that a risk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Just now, Eric said: Calling that a risk! So how is Linkin Park's new album a risk but the things I said that GD did weren't? I mean, considering RR was GD's first album since Billie was in rehab, I think it's fair that they "played it safe" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Some would consider releasing a mainstream pop album to be playing it safe (ie trying to do what’s popular and appeal to a wider audience) and others would consider it a risk (alienating the fans they already have.). I just know I don’t want Green Day to sound like every other “alternative” pop band today. I want them to be Green Day, whatever that feels like to them right now, but not boring. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Just now, MysticManiac said: So how is Linkin Park's new album a risk but the things I said that GD did weren't? I mean, considering RR was GD's first album since Billie was in rehab, I think it's fair that they "played it safe" Sound-wise smartass. Revolution Radio all the way to the first album is all the easy way out. The only real experimental track they really have was Nightlife and the fan base shat all over it. Linkin Park new record is way more of a risk than the entire Green Day discography. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Just now, Eric said: Sound-wise smartass. Revolution Radio all the way to the first album is all the easy way out. The only real experimental track they really have was Nightlife and the fan base shat all over it. Linkin Park new record is way more of a risk than the entire Green Day discography. Yeah... AI and 21CB did SOUND a lot different to their stuff before that. And Nightlife and other songs from the trilogy were new SOUNDS that the band tried out too. Kill the DJ was a new sound, Brutal Love was different. I don't see why you think just because the fan base "shat" all over Nightlife that the point is any less valid. LP's fanbase shat over their new album, and all their other records that had a new sound to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 minute ago, MysticManiac said: Yeah... AI and 21CB did SOUND a lot different to their stuff before that. And Nightlife and other songs from the trilogy were new SOUNDS that the band tried out too. Kill the DJ was a new sound, Brutal Love was different. I don't see why you think just because the fan base "shat" all over Nightlife that the point is any less valid. LP's fanbase shat over their new album, and all their other records that had a new sound to them. How? Look at every Linkin Park album and see the difference easily. Green Day played it so safe to really really really branch out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollyroger118 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, Eric said: Sound-wise smartass. Revolution Radio all the way to the first album is all the easy way out. The only real experimental track they really have was Nightlife and the fan base shat all over it. Linkin Park new record is way more of a risk than the entire Green Day discography. I think that's wrong after Warning kinda flopped AI was a huge risk instead of going with a more pop sound and lyrics he wrote an intense and personal concept album at a time when rock wasn't even that big on the radio anymore. If AI would've flopped their career wouldn't look anything like it does today. The trilogy was pretty risky too and it didn't really pay off for anyone. And Linkin Parks new albums have been trash imo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Just now, Eric said: How? Look at every Linkin Park album and see the difference easily. Green Day played it so safe to really really really branch out. I'm very familiar with LP's albums and I don't see much of a difference. Both bands have had times where they played it safe and both bands have had times where they've made risks. GD with Nimrod, AI, 21CB and the trilogy and LP with MtM, ATS, LT and OML. LP also played it safe with Meteora which was basically Hybrid Theory 2 and The Hunting Party where they returned more to a harder rock sound after A Thousand Suns and Living Things 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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