Blasphemy & Genocide: Unpopular Green Day Opinions, Part 2

[pouty bitch]

9 minutes ago, -Billiejoezee- said:

Insomniac is better than dookie 

Thank God I'm not the only one that thinks this. Insomniac is my 2nd favourite GD album, and Dookie is in my bottom five.

[-Billiejoezee-]

16 minutes ago, G-L-O-R-I-A said:

Thank God I'm not the only one that thinks this. Insomniac is my 2nd favourite GD album, and Dookie is in my bottom five.

Insomniac is my favorite! And I love dookie A LOT especially cause it contains pulling teeth which is my fave  and I also think rev rad is one of their best albums tbh..

[LaughingClock]

On 9/26/2017 at 9:00 AM, letsdanceon said:

LNOE *was* one of my wedding songs  I made my husband, a non-fan, dance with me to it 😜

I love this song and it is definitely written to a lover that he truly respects and loves but one conspicuous lyrical phrase to me has always been "if I lose everything in the fire, I'm sending all my love to you" making me think it's about a mistress that the hero is in true love with. As in "I'm willing to risk it all for my love for you". Also the "Last Night on Earth" title (is a conspicuous song title as well) as its a love song with an armegaeddon title. I might just be looking too far and reading too much but that's always been my thought. Was never sure about it. Either way, it's about love in it's highest form regardless.

It was always just a thought. Not to put a damper on your beautiful wedding song that I think is lovely but I never quite got where that lyric fits in the song which is pure positive love.

I might be just looking too far into the lyrical phrase but that part always lead me to believe that the relationship in this song comes with some sort of baggage that is dangerous from the vantage point of the singer.

[-Puke-Stains-]

15 minutes ago, -Billiejoezee- said:

Insomniac is my favorite! And I love dookie A LOT especially cause it contains pulling teeth which is my fave  and I also think rev rad is one of their best albums tbh..

Insomniac and Warning are such goddamn amazing albums, it drives me crazy whenever people slag on them. 

[-Billiejoezee-]

1 minute ago, -Puke-Stains- said:

Insomniac and Warning are such goddamn amazing albums, it drives me crazy whenever people slag on them. 

I'd say both albums are 100% flawless but insomniac has the black ink stain that is brain stew. 

[pacejunkie punk]

8 minutes ago, LaughingClock said:

I love this song and it is definitely written to a lover that he truly respects and loves but one conspicuous lyrical phrase to me has always been "if I lose everything in the fire, I'm sending all my love to you" making me think it's about a mistress that the hero is in true love with. As in "I'm willing to risk it all for my love for you". Also the "Last Night on Earth" title (is a conspicuous song title as well) as its a love song with an armegaeddon title. I might just be looking too far and reading too much but that's always been my thought. Was never sure about it. Either way, it's about love in it's highest form regardless.

It was always just a thought. Not to put a damper on your beautiful wedding song that I think is lovely but I never quite got where that lyric fits in the song which is pure positive love.

I might be just looking too far into the lyrical phrase but that part always lead me to believe that the relationship in this song comes with some sort of baggage that is dangerous from the vantage point of the singer.

He has explicity said its about his wife though, but I think the apocalyptic tone you’re picking up on is the link to the concept of the album, that it’s a love story set in a collapsing, chaotic society as a backdrop — love between two people as an act of desperation as if it were their last night on earth. 

[The Bellie]

1 hour ago, -Billiejoezee- said:

Here's an unpopular opinion 

Insomniac is better than dookie 

and 21st century breakdown is better than American idiot 

To me Dookie < Insomniac < American Idiot < 21st Century Breakdown < Revolution Radio. How unpopular is it to follow the goddamn chronology ?  And the trilogy is lost somewhere between Insomniac and Breakdown I suppose 

[-Billiejoezee-]

4 minutes ago, Kuromignonne said:

To me Dookie < Insomniac < American Idiot < 21st Century Breakdown < Revolution Radio. How unpopular is it to follow the goddamn chronology ?  And the trilogy is lost somewhere between Insomniac and Breakdown I suppose 

I don't know if rev rad is better than 21st CB yet, but I do know it has something that previous albums were missing, and I love it 

[-Puke-Stains-]

Just now, -Billiejoezee- said:

I don't know if rev rad is better than 21st CB yet, but I do know it has something that previous albums were missing, and I love it 

Bad mastering :X

[The Bellie]

2 minutes ago, -Billiejoezee- said:

I don't know if rev rad is better than 21st CB yet, but I do know it has something that previous albums were missing, and I love it 

"Yet" ? 

RevRad is my fave not only because of my love for the songs but also the effect they have on me. When I want to listen to it, I want to listen to something that's nowhere else than on that album. 

[letsdanceon]

53 minutes ago, LaughingClock said:

I love this song and it is definitely written to a lover that he truly respects and loves but one conspicuous lyrical phrase to me has always been "if I lose everything in the fire, I'm sending all my love to you" making me think it's about a mistress that the hero is in true love with. As in "I'm willing to risk it all for my love for you". Also the "Last Night on Earth" title (is a conspicuous song title as well) as its a love song with an armegaeddon title. I might just be looking too far and reading too much but that's always been my thought. Was never sure about it. Either way, it's about love in it's highest form regardless.

It was always just a thought. Not to put a damper on your beautiful wedding song that I think is lovely but I never quite got where that lyric fits in the song which is pure positive love.

I might be just looking too far into the lyrical phrase but that part always lead me to believe that the relationship in this song comes with some sort of baggage that is dangerous from the vantage point of the singer.

The way I always thought of it was him singing about a love so strong that it transcends even death. Pretty literal I guess, but even if he were to literally lose *everything* it wouldn't put an end to the bond they have. 

[-Billiejoezee-]

14 minutes ago, Kuromignonne said:

"Yet" ? 

RevRad is my fave not only because of my love for the songs but also the effect they have on me. When I want to listen to it, I want to listen to something that's nowhere else than on that album. 

I haven't heard them back to back that's why lmao so I need to before I compare them properly 

[UNICORN VOMIT]

1 hour ago, -Billiejoezee- said:

Here's an unpopular opinion 

Insomniac is better than dookie 

(and that's something coming from me since my favorite Green Day song is on dookie)

and 21st century breakdown is better than American idiot 

Now that I've slightly insulted both their "best albums" the attack against me may begin. 

I listen to Insomniac more than dookie.  But dookie will always be my sentimental favourite - its what got me into the band.  

I agree 21CB is better than AI but I always put it over 21CB just because thats when GD was the biggest band in the world.

[The Bellie]

1 hour ago, LaughingClock said:

one conspicuous lyrical phrase to me has always been "if I lose everything in the fire, I'm sending all my love to you" making me think it's about a mistress that the hero is in true love with. As in "I'm willing to risk it all for my love for you".

I've never thought of this phrase this way. I feel it more like, in a general way, "whenever I die, I want my love for you to remain" as the only thing he ultimately wants to save from himself. Although I wonder now, reading your post, if "losing everything in the fire" means necessarily dying, as it's what I've always thought, without really deepening it. I have a little doubt now especially since, when I think of this phrase, my mind drifts to the lyrics in 21 Guns, "did you stand too close to the fire" which I don't think are associated with death in that context. On the other hand, the last phrase in LNOE, "did I ever make it through ?" sounds like an ultimate questioning as he was really thinking of death.  

4 minutes ago, -Billiejoezee- said:

I haven't heard them back to back that's why lmao so I need to before I compare them properly 

I happened to listen today to 21st CB from start to end and I was really filled with a tremendous love for this album as a whole. So yeah, hard.  And what's even harder for me is that the songs that get me at the highest emotional level are in the trilogy and in RevRad. But I can't say that as a whole any album of the trilogy beats Breakdown. RevRad does. It may sound weird and I don't mean to say each album isn't unique, but I could eventually say: on one side, Revolution Radio and on the other side, all the rest.

9 minutes ago, SHART said:

GD are the biggest band in the world.

I corrected it for you. 

Or else, fuck the world 

[Beerjeezus]

2 minutes ago, Kuromignonne said:

I've never thought of this phrase this way. I feel it more like, in a general way, "whenever I die, I want my love for you to remain" as the only thing he ultimately wants to save from himself. Although I wonder now, reading your post, if "losing everything in the fire" means necessarily dying, as it's what I've always thought, without really deepening it. I have a little doubt now especially since, when I think of this phrase, my mind drifts to the lyrics in 21 Guns, "did you stand too close to the fire" which I don't think are associated with death in that context. On the other hand, the last phrase in LNOE, "did I ever make it through ?" sounds like an ultimate questioning as he was really thinking of death.  

I always interpreted "the fire" as any form of destruction. It could mean death, eventually. But it could be anything negative as well. 

The motive repeats on the album, you named 21 Guns as an example and there's also "I set the fire just to see the flame" in See The Light.

[The Bellie]

1 minute ago, Jane Lannister said:

The motive repeats on the album, you named 21 Guns as an example and there's also "I set the fire just to see the flame" in See The Light.

Indeed, although what's noticeable in See The Light, is that the fire is made by the narrator; it doesn't seem to me like an external threat possibly cause to death.

Just passing, See The Light is  probably my favorite song on that album

[herewegoagain]

2 hours ago, -Billiejoezee- said:

Insomniac is my favorite! And I love dookie A LOT especially cause it contains pulling teeth which is my fave  and I also think rev rad is one of their best albums tbh..

I like you   My favourites vary too much depending on how I'm feeling etc to throw myself further into this discussion but I'd put Insomniac over Dookie any day. I suspect it's because I had a brief Dookie phase like nine years ago so I didn't play it to death the way I did the other albums last/this year and therefore don't "know" it as well. It's a solid album and some of the songs are amongst my favourites, but as a whole I just can't find that emotional connection to it.

Also, probably an unpopular opinion: I find Billie's vocals really boring on Dookie compared to every single one of the other albums. Maybe it's just the mixing but it irks me.

[Beerjeezus]

5 minutes ago, Kuromignonne said:

Indeed, although what's noticeable in See The Light, is that the fire is made by the narrator; it doesn't seem to me like an external threat possibly cause to death.

Just passing, See The Light is  probably my favorite song on that album

Yes, in See The Light it defintely represents an internal threat but that doesn't mean isn't seen as dangerous - in another song he goes "you are your own worst enemy". It's a big theme on Breakdown. He explores how world and society weigh upon the characters but ultimately it's them who have their own fate in their hands. 

[-Puke-Stains-]

Unpopular opinion, the best song off of Revolution Radio is Devil's Kind.

[LaughingClock]

2 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said:

He has explicity said its about his wife though, but I think the apocalyptic tone you’re picking up on is the link to the concept of the album, that it’s a love story set in a collapsing, chaotic society as a backdrop — love between two people as an act of desperation as if it were their last night on earth. 

Interesting take on it all. Thanks for letting me know. I think I agree with your interpretation in light of that info about the name of the song and that phrase. Good shit.  Beautiful song. By far my favorite ballad from them.

 

[The Bellie]

28 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said:

Yes, in See The Light it defintely represents an internal threat but that doesn't mean isn't seen as dangerous - in another song he goes "you are your own worst enemy". It's a big theme on Breakdown. He explores how world and society weigh upon the characters but ultimately it's them who have their own fate in their hands. 

That's a great way to sum it up. As a matter of fact, the song Restless Heart Syndrome is another big crush of mine on that album. I just don't hear the fire in See the Light as a threat. I hear it more like a way to reappropriate his own demons, because he's able to light a fire himself, and it takes another meaning than a threat it might have been otherwise. So See The Light has the beginning of an action in response to the fact, as you said, his fate lies in his own hands above all.

[walking_c0ntradicti0n]

16 hours ago, Jenn. said:

Brutal Love isn’t piano led though so doesn’t count  and I didn’t think of RHS but yeah that would top The Forgotten for me too.

ballads in general man idk

1 hour ago, Kuromignonne said:

Indeed, although what's noticeable in See The Light, is that the fire is made by the narrator; it doesn't seem to me like an external threat possibly cause to death.

Just passing, See The Light is  probably my favorite song on that album

Yes

[LaughingClock]

On 9/26/2017 at 2:59 PM, The_real_st_jimmy said:

I don't get the dislike for KFAD. It's one of my favorite songs and I love seeing them play it live.

Watch it a minimum of 20x and get back to us.

[Eric]

4 hours ago, -Puke-Stains- said:

Unpopular opinion, the best song off of Revolution Radio is Devil's Kind.

Yeah nice try, you know better....

[UNICORN VOMIT]

Is RHS considered a ballad?