The Disappearing Boy Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Ah, Unpopular Opinions, my old friend. So glad to see you alive and well again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, The Disappearing Boy said: Ah, Unpopular Opinions, my old friend. So glad to see you alive and well again. And not even recycled Trilogy-bashing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Disappearing Boy Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, Libertine Angel said: And not even recycled Trilogy-bashing I know! It's all brand new 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wretched & Divine Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 2 hours ago, JoeFrusciante said: Boulevard is overrated It's my least favourite song off American Idiot. But that's like rating a song 9.05/10 when the others are all 9.5+/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RougeRogue Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 With it being brought up again everywhere, I keep thinking about it... There are still certains things about the iheartradio outburst that I think were exaggerated and unworthy of the public response it caused. At the time, it bothered me that the stage antics alone were viewed as shocking. In the whole of the things GD and Billie have done on stage, that hardly seemed different. Instruments have been destroyed before. His Steve Jobs cancer comment was more blasphemous than his Bieber comment. I do not doubt that it was worthy of being a catalyst for him getting help, but what signifies that to me are the stories and personal reveals since then, not the incident itself. And without that context? Idk, it never truly shocked me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 1 minute ago, RougeRogue said: With it being brought up again everywhere, I keep thinking about it... There are still certains things about the iheartradio outburst that I think were exaggerated and unworthy of the public response it caused. At the time, it bothered me that the stage antics alone were viewed as shocking. In the whole of the things GD and Billie have done on stage, that hardly seemed different. Instruments have been destroyed before. His Steve Jobs cancer comment was more blasphemous than his Bieber comment. I do not doubt that it was worthy of being a catalyst for him getting help, but what signifies that to me are the stories and personal reveals since then, not the incident itself. And without that context? Idk, it never truly shocked me. I think because it was at a big event that was being filmed for tv and such Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solongfromthestars Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 11 hours ago, Libertine Angel said: And not even recycled Trilogy-bashing I never understood why people thought Trilogy-bashing was an "unpopular" opinion... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaddi. Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 14 hours ago, petros said: I don't know if it's unpopular or not but basing on the fact this is a green day forum full of fangirls and fanboys that won't really judge the album until some time has passed I think it is. Forever now and Somewhere now are the most generic songs green day have released. Even worse than most of the trilogy songs. "My name is Billie and I'm freaking out" is the most cringeworthy thing Billie has ever written. I can't listen to a song that starts like that. And I don't really lose much cause it's basically the same tune playing over the same meh lyrics for 7 minutes. How can this be another green day long song anthem? It has none of the good elements of Jos or Homecoming or American Eulogy or even Dirty Rotten Bastards. I absolutely agree. What's probably an even more unpopular opinion is that I like Forever Now better than Somewhere now although they're both not that great. And I totally agree on that cringeworthy line, I feel external shame every time I listen to it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leni. Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, Kaddi. said: I absolutely agree. What's probably an even more unpopular opinion is that I like Forever Now better than Somewhere now although they're both not that great. And I totally agree on that cringeworthy line, I feel external shame every time I listen to it. Me too I think it would sound much better if it would be just I'm freaking out. Haha maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaddi. Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, Ellen Caulfield said: Me too I think it would sound much better if it would be just I'm freaking out. Haha maybe Either that or they could have left it out completely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leni. Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Kaddi. said: Either that or they could have left it out completely. Yeah I wouldn't mind too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hermione Posted October 20, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2016 14 hours ago, petros said: Also billie getting away with lyrics being just things he has in his mind and writing them down and make no sense as a whole has to stop. After American idiot he has done this a lot. And always some people will say, no it makes no sense on purpose because this song represents the chaos in a america right now and blah blah blah. Please, even Billie himself admitted he did it in Nuclear Family and I'm sure that's not the only song he's done it. He's always been somewhat poetic but it has become too much after american idiot to the point sometimes he makes no sense. It's nothing to "get away with". Not all lyrics have to make sense in a literal way like an essay, sometimes it can be more about the feeling or the aesthetic of how they sound. Loads of bands write waaaaaay more abstract lyrics than Billie does, he can do it too sometimes if he wants. 11 hours ago, RougeRogue said: With it being brought up again everywhere, I keep thinking about it... There are still certains things about the iheartradio outburst that I think were exaggerated and unworthy of the public response it caused. At the time, it bothered me that the stage antics alone were viewed as shocking. In the whole of the things GD and Billie have done on stage, that hardly seemed different. Instruments have been destroyed before. His Steve Jobs cancer comment was more blasphemous than his Bieber comment. I do not doubt that it was worthy of being a catalyst for him getting help, but what signifies that to me are the stories and personal reveals since then, not the incident itself. And without that context? Idk, it never truly shocked me. Agree 100% 24 minutes ago, Ellen Caulfield said: Me too I think it would sound much better if it would be just I'm freaking out. Haha maybe Aww I really like that line. I think it's kind of more....honest and brave that he says his name. Like standing up and saying "My name is [ ] and..." and admitting something that's hard to admit is an embarrassing thing to do, so for a song where he's revealing these personal feelings it seems appropriate. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leni. Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Hermione said: Aww I really like that line. I think it's kind of more....honest and brave that he says his name. Like standing up and saying "My name is [ ] and..." and admitting something that's hard to admit is an embarrassing thing to do, so for a song where he's revealing these personal feelings it seems appropriate. Yeah, I look at it as you described, I mean I think it's honest and brave, but I just wanted to say when I first heard that line it felt so awkward, don't really know why but I must admit that since then I'm not really a big fan of that one 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 12 hours ago, RougeRogue said: With it being brought up again everywhere, I keep thinking about it... There are still certains things about the iheartradio outburst that I think were exaggerated and unworthy of the public response it caused. At the time, it bothered me that the stage antics alone were viewed as shocking. In the whole of the things GD and Billie have done on stage, that hardly seemed different. Instruments have been destroyed before. His Steve Jobs cancer comment was more blasphemous than his Bieber comment. I do not doubt that it was worthy of being a catalyst for him getting help, but what signifies that to me are the stories and personal reveals since then, not the incident itself. And without that context? Idk, it never truly shocked me. Yeah, it got blown out of proportion. It's far from actually shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 3 hours ago, Hermione said: Aww I really like that line. I think it's kind of more....honest and brave that he says his name. Like standing up and saying "My name is [ ] and..." and admitting something that's hard to admit is an embarrassing thing to do, so for a song where he's revealing these personal feelings it seems appropriate. I totally agree. I love that line so much. Definitely honest and brave. As for iHeart...I don't know. They've done wacky things, but that situation (to me) came across as much more of a rockstar diva rant than anything they'd done before. It felt out of character for the band they've become over the years. What I don't understand is why they still seem to be asked whether or not they agreed with what Billie said. I mean, it's nice that Mike and Tre support why he was upset, but it was a drunken rant, nothing more. Trying to look for meaning in it seems silly. When talking about it, I don't understand why Billie should have to say "Well, it's not necessarily that I don't agree with what I said, I just regret how fucked up I was and that I wasn't acting like myself." I take little stock in what he said, because it just doesn't seem relevant to the broader situation. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeJennsitized Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Not sure I've ever posted in this thread before! Okay, here's one of mine: I prefer the musical version of 21 Guns to the real thing. 21 Guns and WMUWSE are meh songs to me, though bizarrely I adore similar 'slow' songs like BOBD and Novacaine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leni. Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, Jenn. said: Okay, here's one of mine: I prefer the musical version of 21 Guns to the real thing. I must admit that I feel the same 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, Jenn. said: Not sure I've ever posted in this thread before! Okay, here's one of mine: I prefer the musical version of 21 Guns to the real thing. 21 Guns and WMUWSE are meh songs to me, though bizarrely I adore similar 'slow' songs like BOBD and Novacaine. I liked it because I partially agree with you. The only thing I don't agree with you is that 21 Guns is a meh song. I love the song overall. However, it is so amazingly dynamic and exciting on stage. Seeing 21 Guns on stage was one of the best scenes of any play I have ever seen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeJennsitized Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Just now, Scattered Wreck said: I liked it because I partially agree with you. The only thing I don't agree with you is that 21 Guns is a meh song. I love the song overall. However, it is so amazingly dynamic and exciting on stage. Seeing 21 Guns on stage was one of the best scenes of any play I have ever seen. I just adore the harmonies they do in the musical version! It's not that I think the original is bad, but I will most likely skip it unless I'm deliberately listening to the whole album. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leni. Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Scattered Wreck said: I liked it because I partially agree with you. The only thing I don't agree with you is that 21 Guns is a meh song. I love the song overall. However, it is so amazingly dynamic and exciting on stage. Seeing 21 Guns on stage was one of the best scenes of any play I have ever seen. I love the lyrics for 21 Guns. There are so many genuine questions there in that song that I can't resist to at least think about the answer to them. It still amazes me though. For me, there are one of their best lyrics ever written in these verses IMHO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 5 hours ago, Hermione said: Aww I really like that line. I think it's kind of more....honest and brave that he says his name. Like standing up and saying "My name is [ ] and..." and admitting something that's hard to admit is an embarrassing thing to do, so for a song where he's revealing these personal feelings it seems appropriate. Yes, I agree. It makes me uncomfortable but I guess it's because of how evocative that line is. It does sound like he's about to say something very embarrassing. It feels kind of cringeworthy but it might evoke some pretty upsetting stuff so yeah, it's effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 8 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said: Yes, I agree. It makes me uncomfortable but I guess it's because of how evocative that line is. It does sound like he's about to say something very embarrassing. It feels kind of cringeworthy but it might evoke some pretty upsetting stuff so yeah, it's effective. I don't mind the line, but I don't like the guitar on it. It seems disjointed for what to me is an otherwise perfect song. If he had a different guitar tone, I might like that line in the song better, it just doesn't seem to flow into the rest of the song 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Scattered Wreck said: I don't mind the line, but I don't like the guitar on it. It seems disjointed for what to me is an otherwise perfect song. If he had a different guitar tone, I might like that line in the song better, it just doesn't seem to flow into the rest of the song I absolutely agree. It's almost as out of place as Mike's line in that "English math and science song" (I can't remember how is it called now). It doesn't really ruin the flow of the song at the beginning. I think of it as more of the type of a intro like Nobody Likes You then as about a proper beginning of the song. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bioshockerxx Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Unpopular opinion(?) I don't care for Outlaws and it has to be my least favorite song on RevRad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I still don't like Still Breathing. I just find it boring and generic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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