Libertine Angel Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 21CB is great, but it doesn't quite beat AI for me. Both are brilliant in every way though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not a Salad Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I dislike a lot of songs off American Idiot, but that doesn't mean I hate them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 The Trilogy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not a Salad Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I don't know if this is unpopular, but I specifically prefer Lookout era GD to any other form of GD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarplayer015 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 The trilogy: I don't think the trilogy was a good idea. If you took a few songs from each of the albums, you would have a solid Green Day album. The albums certainly didn't raise the bar from AI, or 21st century. I also hated the way the trilogy was produced. The guitar tone bothered me. It was too clean for Green Day. Billie's vocals were tampered with (autotune). This saves a lot of time when dealing with 30+ songs. I certainly hope with the upcoming album that they take their time with it and come out with something awesome! Awesome As Fuck: This live album was TERRIBLE compared to Bullet in a Bible. It was obvious that autotune was used which is disappointing. I want to hear a live album, not a studio produced album. Something about the mixing was bad. It just doesn't sound right. On a positive note, I loved the setlist for the album. Live performances: I saw Green Day in Montreal in 2009, and 2010. Both shows were great except Billie can sometimes be a bit of a bore. When they played King for a Day, it dragged on for 25 minutes at least. "EHHHHHH OHHHH" "EHHHHH OHHHH". I understand getting the crowed pumped up, but he's gotta stop over doing it. I cringe everytime they play this song live. It's not fun after a while for the audience. Tre's gotta slow down the drumming a bit. I've noticed each tour Tre keeps drumming certain songs faster and faster. Check out St. Jimmy in 2013 vs bullet in a bibles St. Jimmy. But I guess when you're at the concert no one cares that much.... Lastly, bringing fans on stage to sing "longview". Oh man, this was terrible. It's one of my favourite songs by Green Day and to have a fan completely ruin the song at a concert sucks! It's not a karaoke party, its a concert. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, guitarplayer015 said: The trilogy: I don't think the trilogy was a good idea. If you took a few songs from each of the albums, you would have a solid Green Day album. The albums certainly didn't raise the bar from AI, or 21st century. I also hated the way the trilogy was produced. The guitar tone bothered me. It was too clean for Green Day. Billie's vocals were tampered with (autotune). This saves a lot of time when dealing with 30+ songs. I certainly hope with the upcoming album that they take their time with it and come out with something awesome! Awesome As Fuck: This live album was TERRIBLE compared to Bullet in a Bible. It was obvious that autotune was used which is disappointing. I want to hear a live album, not a studio produced album. Something about the mixing was bad. It just doesn't sound right. On a positive note, I loved the setlist for the album. Live performances: I saw Green Day in Montreal in 2009, and 2010. Both shows were great except Billie can sometimes be a bit of a bore. When they played King for a Day, it dragged on for 25 minutes at least. "EHHHHHH OHHHH" "EHHHHH OHHHH". I understand getting the crowed pumped up, but he's gotta stop over doing it. I cringe everytime they play this song live. It's not fun after a while for the audience. Tre's gotta slow down the drumming a bit. I've noticed each tour Tre keeps drumming certain songs faster and faster. Check out St. Jimmy in 2013 vs bullet in a bibles St. Jimmy. But I guess when you're at the concert no one cares that much.... Lastly, bringing fans on stage to sing "longview". Oh man, this was terrible. It's one of my favourite songs by Green Day and to have a fan completely ruin the song at a concert sucks! It's not a karaoke party, its a concert. Billie doesn't use autotune, he uses filters. Billie uses tools to have a cleaner vocal that stands out from the instruments more. Autotune corrects pitch. It is generally agreed that the vocals were too compressed on the trilogy. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 10 minutes ago, guitarplayer015 said: The trilogy: I don't think the trilogy was a good idea. If you took a few songs from each of the albums, you would have a solid Green Day album. The albums certainly didn't raise the bar from AI, or 21st century. I also hated the way the trilogy was produced. The guitar tone bothered me. It was too clean for Green Day. Billie's vocals were tampered with (autotune). This saves a lot of time when dealing with 30+ songs. I certainly hope with the upcoming album that they take their time with it and come out with something awesome! Awesome As Fuck: This live album was TERRIBLE compared to Bullet in a Bible. It was obvious that autotune was used which is disappointing. I want to hear a live album, not a studio produced album. Something about the mixing was bad. It just doesn't sound right. On a positive note, I loved the setlist for the album. Live performances: I saw Green Day in Montreal in 2009, and 2010. Both shows were great except Billie can sometimes be a bit of a bore. When they played King for a Day, it dragged on for 25 minutes at least. "EHHHHHH OHHHH" "EHHHHH OHHHH". I understand getting the crowed pumped up, but he's gotta stop over doing it. I cringe everytime they play this song live. It's not fun after a while for the audience. Tre's gotta slow down the drumming a bit. I've noticed each tour Tre keeps drumming certain songs faster and faster. Check out St. Jimmy in 2013 vs bullet in a bibles St. Jimmy. But I guess when you're at the concert no one cares that much.... Lastly, bringing fans on stage to sing "longview". Oh man, this was terrible. It's one of my favourite songs by Green Day and to have a fan completely ruin the song at a concert sucks! It's not a karaoke party, its a concert. Just pretend the trilogy doesn't exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarplayer015 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, JJ1964 said: Billie doesn't use autotune, he uses filters. Billie uses tools to have a cleaner vocal that stands out from the instruments more. Autotune corrects pitch. It is generally agreed that the vocals were too compressed on the trilogy. I respectfully disagree with you on this one. I won't write a full essay on my reasons since that will just start a huge fight. Lets just hope that the new album coming up is great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WhiteTim Posted March 11, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2016 55 minutes ago, guitarplayer015 said: I respectfully disagree with you on this one. I won't write a full essay on my reasons since that will just start a huge fight. Lets just hope that the new album coming up is great! You're very wrong clearly you've never heard of auto tune or you're not well informed on recording... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 1 hour ago, guitarplayer015 said: The trilogy: I don't think the trilogy was a good idea. If you took a few songs from each of the albums, you would have a solid Green Day album. The albums certainly didn't raise the bar from AI, or 21st century. I also hated the way the trilogy was produced. The guitar tone bothered me. It was too clean for Green Day. Billie's vocals were tampered with (autotune). This saves a lot of time when dealing with 30+ songs. I certainly hope with the upcoming album that they take their time with it and come out with something awesome! Everyone says that about it, but if that's the case how is there actually a problem? You can just pick those songs yourself, make a playlist of them and listen to it, and enjoy your solid Green Day album . It's even better doing it yourself because your list of favourite songs will no doubt be different to other people's or the band's, so you'll get the exact ones you want. From the point of view of the album(s) maybe being more successful/well received I get the argument for slimming down but just from the point of view of enjoying the music all it would've done is made it highly likely you would've missed out on hearing some of your preferred songs. Oh and about Awesome as Fuck/Bullet in a Bible, BIAB obviously has the best DVD of the two but I much prefer the Awesome as Fuck CD! Yeah there's a bit of noticeable vocal effect on there but everything else is in its favour, the variety of different songs at different venues and the way it captures the energy of the band and crowd and the feel of that tour. The BIAB CD all recorded in one place and with really not the most interesting versions of songs to listen to (although they're very entertaining to watch) is dull in comparison. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarplayer015 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 8 minutes ago, WhiteTim said: You're very wrong clearly you've never heard of auto tune or you're very ignorant to recording... Personally I'll go with both Isn't this supposed to be an "unpopular Green Day opinion" thread? Sheesh, Green Day fans get so defensive over opinions. When I refer to "autotune", I'm talking about programs that correct pitch. Check out programs like Melodyne. They correct pitch without giving off the "robotic" sound of autotune. You guys really need to think logically about this. Autotune was clearly used in Awesome as Fuck. (let me clarify, Billie's pitch was corrected multiple times. Do you really need evidence of that?). I'm sure you can view clips on youtube and compare them to the actual CD of Awesome as Fuck. What makes you think they wouldn't use it on a studio album? Especially when three albums are being made. It saves time and money. You're just as ignorant about the recording process if you TRUELY think that there's no possibility autotune was used. Anyways, let's just respect each other point of view and move on. You're free to believe what you wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WhiteTim Posted March 11, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2016 9 minutes ago, guitarplayer015 said: Isn't this supposed to be an "unpopular Green Day opinion" thread? Sheesh, Green Day fans get so defensive over opinions. When I refer to "autotune", I'm talking about programs that correct pitch. Check out programs like Melodyne. They correct pitch without giving off the "robotic" sound of autotune. You guys really need to think logically about this. Autotune was clearly used in Awesome as Fuck. (let me clarify, Billie's pitch was corrected multiple times. Do you really need evidence of that?). I'm sure you can view clips on youtube and compare them to the actual CD of Awesome as Fuck. What makes you think they wouldn't use it on a studio album? Especially when three albums are being made. It saves time and money. You're just as ignorant about the recording process if you TRUELY think that there's no possibility autotune was used. Anyways, let's just respect each other point of view and move on. You're free to believe what you wish. except audience videos from that show shows otherwise and again Billie doesn't use autotune... you should perhaps learn about differences between filters like reverb and autotune... but hey what the fuck would i know right? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarplayer015 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 13 minutes ago, WhiteTim said: except audience videos from that show shows otherwise and again Billie doesn't use autotune... you should perhaps learn about differences between filters like reverb and autotune... but hey what the fuck would i know right? Time to move along there WhiteTim. No sense in arguing over this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenXIdiot Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Billie doesn't use autotune. And the stuff he does on stage with audience members, that might bore some people who just want to hear him sing, are actually voice breaks. No human can sing for 3 hours straight, not even Billie Joe. That being said, I also dislike the overall sound quality of the Trilogy, and the amount of "filler " songs with less than ideal lyric writing. But as was earlier pointed out, I made myself a great playlist of all my favorites, so no problem. There really are some gems hidden on that set. They just sound like crap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddie86 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 11 minutes ago, guitarplayer015 said: Time to move along there WhiteTim. No sense in arguing over this. actually, please keep arguing! This is the most exciting thing on the board in days! the fan girl thread is the only other topic with new posts, and that thread bores the hell outta me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 13 minutes ago, guitarplayer015 said: Time to move along there WhiteTim. No sense in arguing over this. He needs to keep it going, because you are wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenXIdiot Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Kyle Serlington said: actually, please keep arguing! This is the most exciting thing on the board in days! the fan girl thread is the only other topic with new posts, and that thread bores the hell outta me Haha I wonder why??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WhiteTim Posted March 11, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Kyle Serlington said: actually, please keep arguing! This is the most exciting thing on the board in days! the fan girl thread is the only other topic with new posts, and that thread bores the hell outta me you just want anarchy lol 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 2 hours ago, guitarplayer015 said: Isn't this supposed to be an "unpopular Green Day opinion" thread? Sheesh, Green Day fans get so defensive over opinions. Yeah but that can include discussing/agreeing with/disagreeing with those opinions. Obviously you don't have to carry on a discussion if you don't want to but the thread would be boring if there was no debate. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Great Saiyaman Posted March 12, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2016 13 hours ago, guitarplayer015 said: Lastly, bringing fans on stage to sing "longview". Oh man, this was terrible. It's one of my favourite songs by Green Day and to have a fan completely ruin the song at a concert sucks! It's not a karaoke party, its a concert. I disagree. I think it's really cool that they do that! Not many bands I know of do, and I see as a way they can "give back" to the fans. Most of all, the band thinks it's fun, whether the fan is a good singer or not, so it's not really "ruining" the song. I mean, come on, wouldn't you want to go on stage and meet your favorite band if you got the opportunity (I know some people might be too shy or something though)?! It's still a concert, just a concert where the band wants to have some fun. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerjeezus Posted March 12, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2016 I wouldn't sing in front of an audience but before I go to a show I'll practice Longview on the guitar because I'm not missing an opportunity to play on stage with my favorite band. Maybe I'll fuck up but the experience still will be worth it. It's great they do it and I'm sure everyone who got up on the stage enjoyed it as selfishly as I would no matter how bad they were. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21guns&novacaine Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Unpopular opinion: I didn't care for Somewhere Now or Forever Now too much. But seeing as how the reaction to those two songs is overwhelmingly positive, I'm likely to be a minority (haha) in this opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 6 minutes ago, 21guns&novacaine said: Unpopular opinion: I didn't care for Somewhere Now or Forever Now too much. But seeing as how the reaction to those two songs is overwhelmingly positive, I'm likely to be a minority (haha) in this opinion. Great kick off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonflower93 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 tbh i think Still Breathing is shit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I still think pretty much all of RevRad is average at best 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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