Blasphemy & Genocide: Unpopular Green Day Opinions, Part 2

[Beerjeezus]

He's a bird hater like Jeff too?

according to Tumblr he's the pigeon king. 

Also: Insomniac, 21CB, Nimrod - those I still listen to.

[Hermione]

My top three are (in no particular order) Nimrod, 21st CB and the trilogy as a whole. How's that for unpopular? But really I'd like to include Dookie, AI and Stop Drop and Roll as well, I consider too many of them 10/10 for it to mean much  

[Beerjeezus]

My top three are (in no particular order) Nimrod, 21st CB and the trilogy as a whole. How's that for unpopular? But really I'd like to include Dookie, AI and Stop Drop and Roll as well, I consider too many of them 10/10 for it to mean much  

trilogy in top three must be super unpopular. We share our favorites!

[Steven Seagull]

Trilogy albums are not top three but it makes sense to put them around #4 or #5. Uno is my #4 and Tre is my #5 because overall they are like my top three GD albums. Maybe one or two bad songs but everything else is perfect. Can't say the same about Dos. Even though it has Fuck Time it's still on the bottom with AI and 21CB. The rest of the albums come in the middle Kerplunk being better than Insomniac and 1039SOSH.

[Maid Meringue]

Nimrod will always be my favorite. Shenanigans (IT COUNTS ) and 1039/sosh teeter-totters with Insomniac though. 
Oh, and AI because Are We the Waiting is arguably my favorite song. 

In any case, my unpopular opinion is that Dos and Tre are quite possibly the most emotionally disturbing albums I've ever listened to.
And I listen to songs about people getting mutilated. 
I dont know man, I was just thinking about it in the car yesterday. Like....getting old, becoming that age where you really aren't relevant to the rest of the world, seeing your friends and family get sick and/or die...throw in a dash of alcoholism and a constant fear of fucking up the present by trying to hold onto the past. It's dark stuff to me.
Way darker than a song like Meat Hook Sodomy *uneasy* 

[Not a Salad]

My top 5 favorite GD albums are as follows

1. Kerplunk

2. Insomniac

3. Uno (Even though it switches places with Insomniac sometimes)

4. 21CB

5. Tre

That wasn't THAT unpopular though

[Hermione]

In any case, my unpopular opinion is that Dos and Tre are quite possibly the most emotionally disturbing albums I've ever listened to.
And I listen to songs about people getting mutilated. 
I dont know man, I was just thinking about it in the car yesterday. Like....getting old, becoming that age where you really aren't relevant to the rest of the world, seeing your friends and family get sick and/or die...throw in a dash of alcoholism and a constant fear of fucking up the present by trying to hold onto the past. It's dark stuff to me.
Way darker than a song like Meat Hook Sodomy *uneasy* 

Yes I agree! Some of Dos is the fun side of the party but he gets right into the dark side of it as well. And then Tre as the reflective aftermath.

[Maid Meringue]

Yes I agree! Some of Dos is the fun side of the party but he gets right into the dark side of it as well. And then Tre as the reflective aftermath.

Even the party songs though. I just imagine a man who's going to all these crazy events to escape reality and instead it's like a bad trip. 

[Guest]

In any case, my unpopular opinion is that Dos and Tre are quite possibly the most emotionally disturbing albums I've ever listened to.
And I listen to songs about people getting mutilated. 

I agree completely. I find it absolutely terrifying that a band that has put out albums as good as AI and Insomniac could write musical travesties such as Dos and Tre and still think it was a good idea to release them.

[Maid Meringue]

^  I set myself up for that one

[Steven Seagull]

AI  and Insomniac are just good examples how you make a try too hard album

[Beerjeezus]

Nimrod will always be my favorite. Shenanigans (IT COUNTS ) and 1039/sosh teeter-totters with Insomniac though. 
Oh, and AI because Are We the Waiting is arguably my favorite song. 

In any case, my unpopular opinion is that Dos and Tre are quite possibly the most emotionally disturbing albums I've ever listened to.
And I listen to songs about people getting mutilated. 
I dont know man, I was just thinking about it in the car yesterday. Like....getting old, becoming that age where you really aren't relevant to the rest of the world, seeing your friends and family get sick and/or die...throw in a dash of alcoholism and a constant fear of fucking up the present by trying to hold onto the past. It's dark stuff to me.
Way darker than a song like Meat Hook Sodomy *uneasy* 

I've been thinking of this too and yes it really is disturbing, but I don't think this would work if we didn't know the story behind it. I don't think most of those songs would have that emotional effect if I didn't know the band. The lyrics aren't that strong themselves. In fact they're written more vaguely than most of other albums. 

AI  and Insomniac are just good examples how you make a try too hard album

What's try too hard on Insomniac? I see why you say so about AI, but why do you think Insomniac is try-hard? 

[Steven Seagull]

I've been thinking of this too and yes it really is disturbing, but I don't think this would work if we didn't know the story behind it. I don't think most of those songs would have that emotional effect if I didn't know the band. The lyrics aren't that strong themselves. In fact they're written more vaguely than most of other albums. 

What's try too hard on Insomniac? I see why you say so about AI, but why do you think Insomniac is try-hard? 

It's an album that followed their first successful and greatest album. Also they tried to prove everyone that they are punk even though they're not. 

[Beerjeezus]

It's an album that followed their first successful and greatest album. Also they tried to prove everyone that they are punk even though they're not. 

Fair enough..still it doesn't sound try-hard to me. 

[Not a Salad]

Green Day isn't in my top 20 bands. Yea, you just heard that right, you wanna fight me huh? HUH?

Okay, i lied. Sorry.. Green Day is in my top 3...

[The Great Saiyaman]

trilogy albums 10/10 lolno

[Z J]

AI  and Insomniac are just good examples how you make a try too hard album

And yet Uno definitely wasn't trying too hard to sound like Dookie era GD. And Dos definitely wasn't trying too hard to sound like Stop Drop and Roll. And Tre....well that was just a clusterfuck of misfit songs that don't make any sense as an album. But yeah...you're spot on. Awesome insights

[Hermione]

 

Even the party songs though. I just imagine a man who's going to all these crazy events to escape reality and instead it's like a bad trip. 

Totally, I love the way you put it! It's been described as being like a midlife crisis, but it's a very dark version of one.

 

AI  and Insomniac are just good examples how you make a try too hard album

AI and Insomniac are examples of them "trying hard" in a sense but doing that doesn't necessarily mean "trying TOO hard" . Insomniac was trying hard to show they could make a punk album to put the haters in their place and express their anger and frustrations, AI was trying hard to push themselves as far as they could as a band and make the most ambitious album they could make. They were completely successful in doing what they were trying to do both times and made two amazing albums so seems like trying hard was a good idea! 

 

And yet Uno definitely wasn't trying too hard to sound like Dookie era GD. And Dos definitely wasn't trying too hard to sound like Stop Drop and Roll. And Tre....well that was just a clusterfuck of misfit songs that don't make any sense as an album. But yeah...you're spot on. Awesome insights

How is Uno trying too hard to sound like Dookie era GD? It's just some songs with a simpler GD sound, they don't particularly sound like Dookie, include many musical aspects that are different to that era, and have totally different themes. Regardless of whether you like the songs I don't see where the trying too hard to be like Dookie era comes in.

 

 

[Steven Seagull]

ZJ is a good example of a fan trying to hard to defend AI

 

I have no idea where you hear Dookie in Uno or Misfits in Tre. Uno is a completely unique GD album and is perfect the way it is. If you tried to say that they returned to their early green day style then I agree. But they were not copying Dookie, they just made an album with songs that have that simple structure like the songs on their early albums and I like that because they really started fucking things up with AI and 21CB.

[WhiteTim]

ZJ is a good example of a fan trying to hard to defend AI

 

I have no idea where you hear Dookie in Uno or Misfits in Tre. Uno is a completely unique GD album and is perfect the way it is. If you tried to say that they returned to their early green day style then I agree. But they were not copying Dookie, they just made an album with songs that have that simple structure like the songs on their early albums and I like that because they really started fucking things up with AI and 21CB.

he wasn't saying misfits as in the band Misfits... 

[Steven Seagull]

he wasn't saying misfits as in the band Misfits... 

LOOOL Well sorry my English is that bad

[Z J]

 

How is Uno trying too hard to sound like Dookie era GD? It's just some songs with a simpler GD sound, they don't particularly sound like Dookie, include many musical aspects that are different to that era, and have totally different themes. Regardless of whether you like the songs I don't see where the trying too hard to be like Dookie era comes in.

 

 

just taking his ridiculous premise and turning it, I'm being very sarcastic. If AI/21CB are trying too hard in any way, then with that lens the trilogy was trying too hard in a number of different ways. My point is that he just chooses to apply one set of logic to the albums he does like, and a completely different set to the ones he doesn't. 

[Hermione]

just taking his ridiculous premise and turning it, I'm being very sarcastic. If AI/21CB are trying too hard in any way, then with that lens the trilogy was trying too hard in a number of different ways. My point is that he just chooses to apply one set of logic to the albums he does like, and a completely different set to the ones he doesn't. 

Ahh, well to make that point it makes sense!

 

[Steven Seagull]

Discussing Green Day albums is a serious business Zack. I don't joke about these things.

[Beerjeezus]

As Green Day likely put way less thought to any of these albums then average contributor in this thread, it's obvious that they weren't trying too hard for the trilogy. Or hard enough, for that matter.