Popular Post Spike Posted February 9, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2015 I'm actually glad they didn't make a big deal of the American Idiot 10th anniversary. I don't think it'd have done them good to continue milking that album after they'd already made a big deal about Dookie the previous year. It wouldn't have gone down well to focus on old albums in back to back years, especially given how poorly the Trilogy did. I mean generally speaking they've milked the cash cow of American Idiot absolutely dry. Obviously it's a very significant album, and on a personal level it's undoubtedly the most important record ever released, but it needs leaving alone at this point. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifmemoryserves Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Are you disputing that Decode and I Caught Myself are amongst their best songs? this is late but YES I CERTAINLY AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 this is late but YES I CERTAINLY AM I... what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifmemoryserves Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I... what.ok i probably just irrationally hate both of them WHATEVER TOM but i definitely don't think i would say that either of them are "amongst their best songs" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 ok i probably just irrationally hate both of them WHATEVER TOM but i definitely don't think i would say that either of them are "amongst their best songs" You're more than welcome to go back to your Anklebiters and similar newfangled shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifmemoryserves Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 You're more than welcome to go back to your Anklebiters and similar newfangled shite THIS ENTIRE POST IS SO OFFENSIVE you know i hate anklebiters shut up tomnom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 THIS ENTIRE POST IS SO OFFENSIVE you know i hate anklebiters shut up tomnom Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Last of the American girls official clip annoys me - it doesn't dipict the song at all - the ladies were pointless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Teller Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Last of the American girls official clip annoys me - it doesn't dipict the song at all - the ladies were pointless. I agree. Also is one of their worst choices for a single. You have ¡Viva la Gloria!, American Eulogy, Peacemaker, ¿Viva la Gloria? (Little Girl), Last Night On Earth, Restless Heart Syndrome, Before The Lobotomy, Murder City, The Static Age and you release Last of the American Girls...OK... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I agree. Also is one of their worst choices for a single. You have ¡Viva la Gloria!, American Eulogy, Peacemaker, ¿Viva la Gloria? (Little Girl), Last Night On Earth, Restless Heart Syndrome, Before The Lobotomy, Murder City, The Static Age and you release Last of the American Girls...OK... I agree on the video, but not necessarily the choice for a single. The choice for a single is not necessarily the best song off the album, but the ones they feel can have commercial success. Last of the American Girls has a good beat and a poppy sound. I thought Know Your Enemy was an odd choice for their 1st single. Personally, the song that should have been released s a single was Static Age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Teller Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I agree on the video, but not necessarily the choice for a single. The choice for a single is not necessarily the best song off the album, but the ones they feel can have commercial success. Last of the American Girls has a good beat and a poppy sound. I thought Know Your Enemy was an odd choice for their 1st single. Personally, the song that should have been released s a single was Static Age. Static Age instead of Know Your Enemy and ¡Viva la Gloria! instead of Last of the American girls if you want to tell something about Gloria. Yes, Last of the American girls has a poppy sound but you have 10 better songs. I think most of them are most catchy and better for singles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Static Age instead of Know Your Enemy and ¡Viva la Gloria! instead of Last of the American girls if you want to tell something about Gloria. Yes, Last of the American girls has a poppy sound but you have 10 better songs. I think most of them are most catchy and better for singles. When releasing singles you are not looking to tell the story, you are looking for a hit. I think Know Your Enemy and Last of the American Girls weren't bad choices, I just think Static Age absolutely should have been released as a single and I'm really not sure why the didn't. I probably would have gone for something different and released Last Night on Earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Teller Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 When releasing singles you are not looking to tell the story, you are looking for a hit. I think Know Your Enemy and Last of the American Girls weren't bad choices, I just think Static Age absolutely should have been released as a single and I'm really not sure why the didn't. I probably would have gone for something different and released Last Night on Earth. I mean if you want to tell something about the story (because it's a concept album after all, it has characters and acts) AND a potential hit you just release ¡Viva la Gloria! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I mean if you want to tell something about the story (because it's a concept album after all, it has characters and acts) AND a potential hit you just release ¡Viva la Gloria! Agreed, but the point of releasing a single is to get a hit, and hopefully get someone to purchase the entire album. Plus, remember, it is not the bands ultimate decision what gets released as a single, it is the record company's decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 They totally only released Last of the American Girls as a single because it was the last 21st CB song that was in the American Idiot musical that hadn't been released as a single yet. When the musical became successful they pretty much dropped all promotion of 21st CB that wasn't related to that over night, quickly rushing out East Jesus Nowhere with no proper video and then only talking about the musical and performing songs from the musical in interviews/on TV from then onwards. There was no way they were going to release a different song when they had the chance to release one that was in the musical after that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayonaise Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I cringe when people say "Dirty Rotten Bastards is the modern Jesus of Suburbia!". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I cringe when people say "Dirty Rotten Bastards is the modern Jesus of Suburbia!". I've literally never heard anyone say that. It's one of their most fun songs, but it's hardly close to a JoS-level masterpiece. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I've literally never heard anyone say that. It's one of their most fun songs, but it's hardly close to a JoS-level masterpiece. I would equate it more to a modern King for A Day. Just a fun song. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Teller Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 They totally only released Last of the American Girls as a single because it was the last 21st CB song that was in the American Idiot musical that hadn't been released as a single yet. When the musical became successful they pretty much dropped all promotion of 21st CB that wasn't related to that over night, quickly rushing out East Jesus Nowhere with no proper video and then only talking about the musical and performing songs from the musical in interviews/on TV from then onwards. There was no way they were going to release a different song when they had the chance to release one that was in the musical after that. Sorry if I didn't understand exactly what you said but Last of the American Girls wasn't "the last 21st CB that was in the American Idiot musical that hadn't been released as a single yet" .There are also Last Night On Earth and Before The Lobotomy. Both better songs and better choices for a single imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I would equate it more to a modern King for A Day. Just a fun song. I hadn't thought of that, but yes, that works perfectly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Teller Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 For me Dirty Rotten Bastards fits better on DOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Sorry if I didn't understand exactly what you said but Last of the American Girls wasn't "the last 21st CB that was in the American Idiot musical that hadn't been released as a single yet" .There are also Last Night On Earth and Before The Lobotomy. Both better songs and better choices for a single imo. As much as I love Before the Lobotomy and agree, it is a much better song, I don't think it would quite work as a single. Last Night on Earth ranks as one of my favorite GD songs, and I think it would work great as a single, on the Adult Contemporary Charts. The record company may not have wanted to go that route. To my knowledge, GD has only had one song chart on the Adult Contemporary charts, so that is not generally their market. Granted it was a biggie, but I would think the record company was shooting for the rock and pop charts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Sorry if I didn't understand exactly what you said but Last of the American Girls wasn't "the last 21st CB that was in the American Idiot musical that hadn't been released as a single yet" .There are also Last Night On Earth and Before The Lobotomy. Both better songs and better choices for a single imo. Oh I'm sorry, I was incorrect that it was the last one. But I do think the reason it was chosen is that it was in it. I'd assume the reason it was picked over the others is they'd already released a slower/ballad type song (21 Guns), and a more upbeat song is a more common choice for a single. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klytaemnestra Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 On the Dookie discussion, for me the order goes: Basket Case, Longview, Welcome to Paradise, When I Come Around, She, Burnout, Chump, Having a Blast, Emenius Sleepus, Sassafras Roots, FOD, In The End, Coming Clean, Pulling Teeth. you are so entirely wrong it physically pains me 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 you are so entirely wrong it physically pains me I'm sorry, I truly am. What order would you put them in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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