Spike Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 Male/female duet Everly Brothers covers Both released in 2013 Sounds pretty much the same to me. The only real difference is the renown of the pairings. So BJ and Norah did covers of covers of covers? Now that's scraping the barrel (although it is very comparable to GD's godawful I Fought The Law cover) What's wrong with doing covers of covers? I mean they're not even technically covers of covers, they're just covers of the originals. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 What's that godawful on I Fought The Law cover? I don't think it's bad at all I think Foreverly is great - maybe it wasn't the most original thing to do in the universe, but it's certainly a solid album and besides probably only Green Day related thing I could enjoy together with my grandparents - which adds it a special value for me The Reading gig wasn't that terrible, too. Not perfect, but not a disaster, either. I mean, I wouldn't remember to complain about it 2 years afterwards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 What's that godawful on I Fought The Law cover? I don't think it's bad at all The only complaint I have about I Fought the Law is that they did absolutely nothing different from The Clash's cover. However, I'm sure this will go over well, I do like Billie's vocals on their version better than Joe Strummers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 The only complaint I have about I Fought the Law is that they did absolutely nothing different from The Clash's cover. However, I'm sure this will go over well, I do like Billie's vocals on their version better than Joe Strummers. That's right. They copied The Clash's version rather than tried to come up with a different one. I just don't mind it at all. I prefer The Clashe's cover - I like how Joe's vocals sound unpolished. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 That's right. They copied The Clash's version rather than tried to come up with a different one. I just don't mind it at all. I prefer The Clashe's cover - I like how Joe's vocals sound unpolished. I like them both, but I would agree that I like The Clash's version better as well. It was a different take on the song, that worked very well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 What's wrong with doing covers of covers? It implies a certain lack of musical creativity. I just don't see the point in copying someone else's interpretation of someone else's song. It's lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngreendayvet Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I thoroughly enjoy the song 21 guns... but I think Billie used auto tune or pitch correction on it . I severely hope I'm wrong but if you hear his pitch on the word "guns" it sounds thin and soupy as opposed to the hardiness you can hear in his other compositions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I thoroughly enjoy the song 21 guns... but I think Billie used auto tune or pitch correction on it . I severely hope I'm wrong but if you hear his pitch on the word "guns" it sounds thin and soupy as opposed to the hardiness you can hear in his other compositions. Again Billie has never used auto tune He does uses filters has since AI or well since ever as any music that is mixed and mastered has filters used in some shape or form... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walking_c0ntradicti0n Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I thoroughly enjoy the song 21 guns... but I think Billie used auto tune or pitch correction on it . I severely hope I'm wrong but if you hear his pitch on the word "guns" it sounds thin and soupy as opposed to the hardiness you can hear in his other compositions. there is this version though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngreendayvet Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Again Billie has never used auto tune He does uses filters has since AI or well since ever as any music that is mixed and mastered has filters used in some shape or form... I do understand that it is easy to confuse auto tune with filters or multiple audio tracks stitched together, but using my very little experience with audio recording it sounds like that single note (which definitely is standing alone without other vocal tracks) has been stretched out manually in pro tools or some other software to reach that note. Bou may be right since I am pretty unfamiliar with filters, but it doesn't sound he was hitting a note and they took away the low frequencies rather than stretch the note alltogether with a high one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I do understand that it is easy to confuse auto tune with filters or multiple audio tracks stitched together, but using my very little experience with audio recording it sounds like that single note (which definitely is standing alone without other vocal tracks) has been stretched out manually in pro tools or some other software to reach that note. Bou may be right since I am pretty unfamiliar with filters, but it doesn't sound he was hitting a note and they took away the low frequencies rather than stretch the note alltogether with a high one. you are talking about the falsetto? I think it may sound different than the past to you because of billies improved vocal ability. 21sb is arguably his best GD vocal performance. So it would sound different Plus trust Tim he knows his shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walking_c0ntradicti0n Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 you are talking about the falsetto? I think it may sound different than the past to you because of billies improved vocal ability. 21sb is arguably his best GD vocal performance. So it would sound different Plus trust Tim he knows his shit he did hit some pretty low notes on rotting though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngreendayvet Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 you are talking about the falsetto? I think it may sound different than the past to you because of billies improved vocal ability. 21sb is arguably his best GD vocal performance. So it would sound different Plus trust Tim he knows his shit Hitting higher notes doesn't necessarily indicate an "improved vocal ability." It also means adding an extra "umph" to the note which that note doesn't really have. Plus I can tell Tim knows more about this stuff than idea, I am just not 100% convinced that note wasn't autotuned yet. he did hit some pretty low notes on rotting though Rotting? I don't follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 It implies a certain lack of musical creativity. I just don't see the point in copying someone else's interpretation of someone else's song. It's lazy. Then 99% of artists are not creative and lazy. It would be really difficult to find someone that hasn't covered a song and many songs have been covered hundreds of times. I will give you that someone like Michael Buble shows no musical creativity. Besides being total shite 99% of what he does is covers. But doing a cover of a cover is nothing new. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walking_c0ntradicti0n Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Hitting higher notes doesn't necessarily indicate an "improved vocal ability." It also means adding an extra "umph" to the note which that note doesn't really have. Plus I can tell Tim knows more about this stuff than idea, I am just not 100% convinced that note wasn't autotuned yet. Rotting? I don't follow. the verse has the lowest notes i've ever heard him hit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Hitting higher notes doesn't necessarily indicate an "improved vocal ability." It also means adding an extra "umph" to the note which that note doesn't really have. Plus I can tell Tim knows more about this stuff than idea, I am just not 100% convinced that note wasn't autotuned yet. Rotting? I don't follow. Actually an increased range does most definitely show an increased vocal ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngreendayvet Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I used to think that too(which is why I was a big Axl Rose fan lol), but what is the point of hitting a higher note if you can't really deliver it strongly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I used to think that too(which is why I was a big Axl Rose fan lol), but what is the point of hitting a higher note if you can't really deliver it strongly? That is subjective. I think he hits it beautifully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngreendayvet Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 That is subjective. I think he hits it beautifully He almost always hits his notes perfectly it seems to me, but I think the high pitch and thin tone makes this note in question the exception to the rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 He almost always hits his notes perfectly it seems to me, but I think the high pitch and thin tone makes this note in question the exception to the rule. Then we will just have to agree to disagree. I think his performance on 21sb is a vocal masterpiece only surpassed by foreverly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaïs. Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I would never go so far as to call anything Billie sings a vocal masterpiece. What's important with him is the delivery, not the technical brilliance. Which is one of the reasons the Trilogy is so bad vocally. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngreendayvet Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Then we will just have to agree to disagree. I think his performance on 21sb is a vocal masterpiece only surpassed by foreverly. Well I do agree that 21 cb has some of his best vocal tracks he recorded, but just not on 21 guns. I would never go so far as to call anything Billie sings a vocal masterpiece. What's important with him is the delivery, not the technical brilliance. Which is one of the reasons the Trilogy is so bad vocally. He has the best delivery in rock n roll lol. But don't underestimate him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I would never go so far as to call anything Billie sings a vocal masterpiece. What's important with him is the delivery, not the technical brilliance. Which is one of the reasons the Trilogy is so bad vocally. I was thinking more of comparing It to what he has done in the past. So maybe vocal masterpiece was a bit overzealous. My point was I didn't really see a fault in the note Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 I would never go so far as to call anything Billie sings a vocal masterpiece. What's important with him is the delivery, not the technical brilliance. Which is one of the reasons the Trilogy is so bad vocally. It's still his masterpiece even if not one by wider standards As much as I adore the vocals on Breakdown I just think he has an awesome voice in general. Not even necessarily in terms of delivery, just his general singing voice. He was technically at his best on Breakdown but I think the vocals on American Idiot are my favourite. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdpony Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I still cannot believe Green Day decided it was time to release a trilogy of crappy songs. I loved some of them, but I couldn't even be bothered to buy the albums, I still feel very disppointed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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