mrduckygoosy Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Dos is one of my favourite Green Day albums so in my case yes I see you like to live dangerously 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I think the style is very disjointed. First, Billie talks the verses. The verses are angry almost violent. Then it turns into this horribly, juvenile, repetitive chorus. The verses and the chorus don't fit. I think that disparity is what makes it more interesting - it's like this anger focuses, grows and then releases into mindless, pure, simplistic emotion. Without that it'd basically be Governator. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I think that disparity is what makes it more interesting - it's like this anger focuses, grows and then releases into mindless, pure, simplistic emotion. Without that it'd basically be Governator. At least the Governators lyrics are funny. There is too much disparity in the verses and chorus. It's like he is going from being Axl Rose to the Monkees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaïs. Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Also, if Kye is good because it has merely got energy, you could as well go and listen to something shite like Kiss. Energy alone is not enough, thought it's decent live. I didn't say it was good, I said it was better than LOTAG and Murder City. didn't someone just say we needed not to have tension and fighting between us right now? And then you go and drop this on me? Sorry, I felt dutybound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrduckygoosy Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 At least the Christan's Inferno chorus is fast and upbeat, imo Stay The Night has a way more boring chorus because how much it lacks energy and how much the rhymes are annoying 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 It's slow, barely has a melody and the lyrics are all over the place "She Little wild one She's covered in angels And demons and halos now" This implying something has happened, with the "now", which he uses throughout, yet the only possible explanation we get as to what happened is: "She gave up on Jesus for living on Venus All dressed up with nowhere to go I'm drinking the Kool-Aid, I jumped on the grenade Now that my mind's gonna blow, hello" The individual sections of lyrics do not seem like they're even talking about the same thing. They're disconnected. basically sounds like his little wild one had orgies with celestial and other less savory beings, then went to live on Venus all by herself while wearing a party dress. So, he tried to commit suicide by jumping on a grenade. Can't make a lick of sense out of the last line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaïs. Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 So, he tried to commit suicide by jumping on a grenade. Can't make a lick of sense out of the last line. Hermione had some retcon that was grasping at straws even for her, IIRC. (Love ya, Hermione, but seriously. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Hermione had some retcon that was grasping at straws even for her, IIRC. (Love ya, Hermione, but seriously. ) Your fave word again . Not sure when spending a few moments thinking about what a lyric might mean became something that's frowned on, there used to be a lot of people here who'd get way more into taking lyrics apart so I'm never going to get used to my basic interpretations being reacted to like that . Like, is giving an interpretation of any lyric that doesn't have a totally obvious meaning grasping at straws? He's not just writing nonsense for the sake of it, he must've had some kind of meaning in mind, so it's fun to think about what it might be! I think the style is very disjointed. First, Billie talks the verses. The verses are angry almost violent. Then it turns into this horribly, juvenile, repetitive chorus. The verses and the chorus don't fit. I love how they don't fit , totally made me laugh when I first heard it. I like the contrast, and then how the chorus turns into that evil laugh so that things sound sinister again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 basically sounds like his little wild one had orgies with celestial and other less savory beings, then went to live on Venus all by herself while wearing a party dress. So, he tried to commit suicide by jumping on a grenade. Can't make a lick of sense out of the last line. Didn't Bruno Mars have a song about jumping on a grenade or something? Maybe Billie Joe was trying to be hip and relevant, the same way as he released 99 Revs 2 years after the protests died and Amy 4 years after Winehouse died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 At least the Christan's Inferno chorus is fast and upbeat, imo Stay The Night has a way more boring chorus because how much it lacks energy and how much the rhymes are annoying Stay the Night is one of the best songs on the Trilogy, in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaïs. Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Stay the Night is one of the best songs on the Trilogy, in my opinion. I'd say it's in the upper tier, but only when compared to the crap it's mired in. I just find it incredibly boring and by the numbers. If it had been on Nimrod or Warning I believe we'd all consider it one of their weakest songs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I'd say it's in the upper tier, but only when compared to the crap it's mired in. I just find it incredibly boring and by the numbers. If it had been on Nimrod or Warning I believe we'd all consider it one of their weakest songs. True, it's not as good as their previous stuff, but I think if they did it faster and rawer it might actually fit in with some of 1039 (which was the kind of sound they wanted to get back to, so I suppose they achieved what they set out to do). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrduckygoosy Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Stay the Night is one of the best songs on the Trilogy, in my opinion. Yep, I noticed a lot of people liked that song, I'm not one of them ^^ But I respect your opinion, I actually love Nightlife and even more The Forgotten, I plaid guilty Edited January 5, 2015 by mrduckygoosy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I love how they don't fit , totally made me laugh when I first heard it. I like the contrast, and then how the chorus turns into that evil laugh so that things sound sinister again. You seriously crack me up. You have to be the most positive person on the entire planet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I actually love Nightlife and even more The Forgotten OK, that explains it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrduckygoosy Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 OK, that explains it. Hahahaha ! It's just that I can't stand the lack of heavy guitar on the trilogy the tone is too clean, it works on songs like Kill the Dj, or Nightlife and it doesn't bother me when it's a ballad of course but the songs which sound more like typical Green Day are dull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Hahahaha ! It's just that I can't stand the lack of heavy guitar on the trilogy the tone is too clean, it works on songs like Kill the Dj, or Nightlife and it doesn't bother me when it's a ballad of course but the songs which sound more like typical Green Day are dull Kill the DJ is an odd one in that I don't like anything else that sounds like it, and I'm not sure exactly why it's an anomaly. Nightlife, however, is just...no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaïs. Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Hahahaha ! It's just that I can't stand the lack of heavy guitar on the trilogy the tone is too clean, it works on songs like Kill the Dj Really? I can't even listen to the clean guitars on Kill the DJ after discovering this version. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 If we're including Hearts Collide I'd be willing to take out Wild One. I'd rather have Wild One than Ashley, but that works. Hearts Collide is absolute muck. I disagree, Hearts Collide is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrduckygoosy Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Really? I can't even listen to the clean guitars on Kill the DJ after discovering this version. Yeah I knew that version But it's one of the Dookified Guitars that I don't like much, I think the clean guitars fit better the song Edited January 5, 2015 by mrduckygoosy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard of 1969 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I'd rather have Wild One than Ashley, but that works. I disagree, Hearts Collide is good. Hearts Collide is actually really good song. If it was released on 21st CB, it would get a lot more attention. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z J Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Not sure when spending a few moments thinking about what a lyric might mean became something that's frowned on, there used to be a lot of people here who'd get way more into taking lyrics apart so I'm never going to get used to my basic interpretations being reacted to like that . Like, is giving an interpretation of any lyric that doesn't have a totally obvious meaning grasping at straws? He's not just writing nonsense for the sake of it, he must've had some kind of meaning in mind, so it's fun to think about what it might be! I think it's great to analyze lyrics, but there is a difference to me between analyzing what Holiday means and analyzing what Wild One means. There is a line, one that can be tough to draw sometimes, but Wild One is a song that isn't close, because it just makes no sense, there isn't a consistency to what he's saying. Contrast that with explaining the meaning of Brutal Love. The meaning is not obvious, but if you can figure out that he (in my estimation) is talking about his relationship with fans and vice versa, pretty much every word in the song makes sense. That is not what happens with Wild One. You could say well he's talking about this and this here, but then a completely different explanation is required for something else. Songs like Wild One, The Forgotten, and Nuclear Family have unclear meanings and are near impossible to solve with one decent explanation. Songs like Troublemaker, Makeout Party, etc are just ridiculous so defining a meaning for it is useless because they're so outlandish there is very little chance that Billie meant anything by them, and if he did there was plenty of cocaine involved. Obviously not every song has one meaning for everyone, but songs that can't be at least mostly explained by at least one or a few different meanings are just rubbish lyrics. The more convoluded the lyrics, the more convoluded the explanantion has to be. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walking_c0ntradicti0n Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I like Wild One. Probably like it more than the two-thirds of the trilogy I never listen to. im probably late to the party but. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Pretty sure the hating-on-the-trilogy-party never ends in here (or in the secrets thread...) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauli Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Whilst we're on about the Trilogy I still maintain my opinion that Tre is a great album though Dos and most of Uno kind of aren't. Also, this is probably shocking but I really like Oh Love. Crucify me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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