Blasphemy & Genocide: Unpopular Green Day Opinions, Part 2

[Sauli]

I think that's a natural process. After one has listened to the best of their albums a lot, one start to get an overdose of them and begins to see more worth in the less spectacular but still perfectly solid works, party because one is simply not too familiar with them yet. Nowadays I listen to Uno and Tre nore than Dookie or Nimrod, but that doesn't per se necessarily mean I value those first-mentioned two albums more than the latter ones. Quite the opposite.

But I agree. The Trilogy is definitely worthy of listening and if some of the more horrible pieces of trash on Dos were excluded I'd never utter a complaint about it anymore.

[Chin for a Day]

I think that's a natural process. After one has listened to the best of their albums a lot, one start to get an overdose of them and begins to see more worth in the less spectacular but still perfectly solid works, party because one is simply not too familiar with them yet. Nowadays I listen to Uno and Tre nore than Dookie or Nimrod, but that doesn't per se necessarily mean I value those first-mentioned two albums more than the latter ones. Quite the opposite.

But I agree. The Trilogy is definitely worthy of listening and if some of the more horrible pieces of trash on Dos were excluded I'd never utter a complaint about it anymore.

I agree, but normally you would eventually go back to the more solid works. I think the Trilogy is better every time I listen to it and I'm starting to think some of the songs on Dookie are dated. One of the things I always loved about Billie's writing is that he writes what he feels. For example, I will always love Longview, its a great song and the one that introduced me to GD. When he wrote it, he wrote it from the perspective of a bored, lonely 20 something, because thats what he was. It seems awkward and out of place coming from the lips of a 42 year old husband and father. Now the Trilogy has alot of bad mid-life crisis stuff on it, but I skip over that. As he is gotten older, he has gotten better at writing about how he feels, but still making it timeless. I don't think he had that ability in his earlier writing. But that is something that would come with maturity.

[DookieLukie]

I agree, but normally you would eventually go back to the more solid works. I think the Trilogy is better every time I listen to it and I'm starting to think some of the songs on Dookie are dated. One of the things I always loved about Billie's writing is that he writes what he feels. For example, I will always love Longview, its a great song and the one that introduced me to GD. When he wrote it, he wrote it from the perspective of a bored, lonely 20 something, because thats what he was. It seems awkward and out of place coming from the lips of a 42 year old husband and father. Now the Trilogy has alot of bad mid-life crisis stuff on it, but I skip over that. As he is gotten older, he has gotten better at writing about how he feels, but still making it timeless. I don't think he had that ability in his earlier writing. But that is something that would come with maturity.

How is Dookie dated? Seems to be pretty applicable to any teenager.

[Anaïs.]

INow the Trilogy has alot of bad mid-life crisis stuff on it, but I skip over that. As he is gotten older, he has gotten better at writing about how he feels, but still making it timeless. I don't think he had that ability in his earlier writing. But that is something that would come with maturity.

That's rather severe cherry-picking.

And how are songs like "She" or "Basket Case" or "When I Come Around" dated? I'd say they can apply to just about any age range. Unless you're saying they sound dated even apart from Billie singing them, in which case I'm not sure how you make that leap.

[Chin for a Day]

How is Dookie dated? Seems to be pretty applicable to any teenager.

Applicable to any teenager, but not to Billie. It seems awkward for him to still be singing about jerking off. Plus, I didn't say all of Dookie, just some of Dookie.

That's rather severe cherry-picking.

And how are songs like "She" or "Basket Case" or "When I Come Around" dated? I'd say they can apply to just about any age range. Unless you're saying they sound dated even apart from Billie singing them, in which case I'm not sure how you make that leap.

I didn't say all of Dookie, I said some of Dookie. And I did say dated as far as Billie singing them. I think I'm mostly thinking about Longview anyway. It is just not feasible for me for a 42 year old to be singing about jerking off, unless its like every other guy in a mid life crisis jerking off to You Porn

[Maid Meringue]

I really dont like these Demolicious demos, which is surprising because I usually do enjoy demos from their other albums. Many of the songs this time around are like nails on a chalkboard.

That being said, I don't get all the hate for Makeout Party! But the demo for it is god fucking awful.

Edited November 21, 2014 by Maid Meringue

[Guest]

Applicable to any teenager, but not to Billie. It seems awkward for him to still be singing about jerking off. Plus, I didn't say all of Dookie, just some of Dookie.

Yeah, but when Billie's onstage singing "Longview," you don't think of him, as a father and a husband singing it. It's something that everyone in the audience is connectd to, either via nostalgia or because it's something they're currently experiencing. The song creates energy and emotion, Billie is merely the conduit through which it flows.

[Certified Nimrod]

I can't even think of the last time I listened to Dookie.

[Chin for a Day]

Yeah, but when Billie's onstage singing "Longview," you don't think of him, as a father and a husband singing it. It's something that everyone in the audience is connectd to, either via nostalgia or because it's something they're currently experiencing. The song creates energy and emotion, Billie is merely the conduit through which it flows.

It's hard for me, to me it's awkward, even though it is one of my top GD songs. It actually was the song that introduced me to GD. Since Billie and I are about the same age, have been married the same amount of time and are kids are almost the same age, I have a hard time not thinking of him as a father and husband. I just find it awkward listening to him sing it live anymore.

[Maid Meringue]

I have always loved 21stCB. It has amazing songs, with touching, forceful lyrics. The production is outstanding and Billie's vocals were never better. And the Trilogy is seriously growing on me, even Dos. I find that when I go to listen to GD, I will go to the Trilogy more and more often. OK, I still skip Makeout Party, but that goes without saying. I even started to like Nightlife. I can't even think of the last time I listened to Dookie.

I listened to the trilogy so much for the first 15 months after its release, that I can barely listen to it anymore. I have to be in a real mood to do it.

Dookie was never really my favorite album, but once I put it on I remember how great it was. I find myself listening to Dookie and Uno only in the car.

The real reason why I don't listen to 21stCB (or American Idiot) too often, is because i HAVE to listen to the album in full, or not at all.

[DookieLukie]

Yeah, but when Billie's onstage singing "Longview," you don't think of him, as a father and a husband singing it. It's something that everyone in the audience is connectd to, either via nostalgia or because it's something they're currently experiencing. The song creates energy and emotion, Billie is merely the conduit through which it flows.

Agreed. When I listen to Green Day, I'm not thinking about Billie. I'm thinking about how the song connects to me and what it says in terms of my life.

[Chin for a Day]

The real reason why I don't listen to 21stCB (or American Idiot) too often, is because i HAVE to listen to the album in full, or not at all.

I always listen to 21stCB and AI on long car rides. You can listen to the whole record and the energy level keeps me awake.

Agreed. When I listen to Green Day, I'm not thinking about Billie. I'm thinking about how the song connects to me and what it says in terms of my life.

Everyone connects to a song in a different way. It could be through the singer or through your personal experiences or both. It depends on the song and the person, its all very personal.

[Ian1234]

I think that Angel Blue is the best song on UNO!

[Hermione]

I think that Angel Blue is the best song on UNO!

Ha I think it's the worst! I do like it, just find the other songs more interesting. Really like the Demolicious version though.

[Chin for a Day]

Ha I think it's the worst! I do like it, just find the other songs more interesting. Really like the Demolicious version though.

I agree. I almost didn't recognize it on Demolicious. Really liked the demo version

[Gwen Stacy]

Is it just me, or do a lot of songs on the Trilogy just feel weirdly out of place with the respective themes of their albums? I feel like Rusty James feels a lot more at home on Tre, Troublemaker should be on Dos, Stray Heart should be on Uno, ect. It just makes everything feel less cohesive.

[Anaïs.]

Is it just me, or do a lot of songs on the Trilogy just feel weirdly out of place with the respective themes of their albums? I feel like Rusty James feels a lot more at home on Tre, Troublemaker should be on Dos, Stray Heart should be on Uno, ect. It just makes everything feel less cohesive.

Agreed. I personally think the whole party theme was retconned after the albums were put together, because there's nothing inherently "getting ready" on Uno besides Nuclear Family and Oh Love, and Tre is justa complete mixed bag. Dos is the closest to having a coherent theme, and it's the suckiest, so there's that.

[Maid Meringue]

Uno has some great songs, but it's probably my least favorite of the three.

[Chin for a Day]

Is it just me, or do a lot of songs on the Trilogy just feel weirdly out of place with the respective themes of their albums? I feel like Rusty James feels a lot more at home on Tre, Troublemaker should be on Dos, Stray Heart should be on Uno, ect. It just makes everything feel less cohesive.

I always thought that stray heart was totally out of place on dos. It makes you wonder if the trilogy would have been better recwives if the songs were rearranged. There are some really good songs in the trilogy v

[Dolphin]

I love Dos and Uno, I still like Tre but those two are better then Tre, IMO.

[UNICORN VOMIT]

I love Dos and Uno, I still like Tre but those two are better then Tre, IMO.

I like them as well but run for cover.

[Dolphin]

Okay, running now.

[Jessie Armstrong]

I like the trilogy a whole lot. While the themes are kind of lost, I don't dislike any song from Uno Dos or Tre. I dig the sound, too. I love the classic Green Day tone, but the trilogy went a few new routes, and I think they pulled it off well.

[Dolphin]

I like the trilogy a whole lot. While the themes are kind of lost, I don't dislike any song from Uno Dos or Tre. I dig the sound, too. I love the classic Green Day tone, but the trilogy went a few new routes, and I think they pulled it off well.

They pulled it off amazingly well. Prefer the older green day stuff, but Love this stuff too

[UNICORN VOMIT]

Where did all the trilogy love come from