Blasphemy & Genocide: Unpopular Green Day Opinions, Part 2

[Pat1308]

No, no, no, STAHP. I have a huge aversion to saliva, loogies, gagging noises, basically all bodily functions, etc. and this mental image is making him almost appear unattractive.

I have a huge boner for spitting/loogieing Billie right now.

False. The Demolicious version of the song is brilliant. It's actually one of my favorites. But yeah, the Tré version basically sucks balls.

A-men, sistah.

[Spike]

False. The Demolicious version of the song is brilliant. It's actually one of my favorites. But yeah, the Tré version basically sucks balls.

I agree the Demolicious version is awesome, but when the Trilogy came out it was just Mike's part that was branded "weird" and "pointless."

[Certified Nimrod]

I agree the Demolicious version is awesome, but when the Trilogy came out it was just Mike's part that was branded "weird" and "pointless."

Really? I love it!

[WhiteTim]

I like the verses to Sex Drugs & Violence escp the line "I took a wrong turn at growing up and it's freaking me out"

[Jollyroger118]

I definitely like Sex Drugs and Violence better on Demolicious, same for Little Boy Named Train (which I wouldn't have thought possible cause I really didn't like the song). In fact I'd say I like almost all of them better on Demolicious, especially some of the different lyrics like the bridge in Let Yourself Go. What the fuck was he thinking using the one on Uno instead and why did no one stop him?? It would be a perfect album for me if Wild One, X Kid, Lazy Bones, 8th Avenue Serenade and SWTRLF were on it. And Dirty Rotten Bastards too but maybe broken into parts or just something different and ANYTHING other than the "carried away" verse at the end. I hate that so much. Could do without Makeout Party but even that is better on Demolicious. And I really do love State Of Shock. All in all I'm so happy Demolicious was released, it redeemed the trilogy quite a bit in my eyes. And Baby Eyes is incredible, possibly my favorite on the album.

Oh and in my dream world Dreamcatcher would have been on it too cause I think that songs incredible and would have fit right in with the trilogy. I really think that song was one of the first he wrote in the trilogy "style"

[Hermione]

No, no, no, STAHP. I have a huge aversion to saliva, loogies, gagging noises, basically all bodily functions, etc. and this mental image is making him almost appear unattractive.

The man is like a human sprinkler though! He's always spitting as he sings (especially in the early days) and his and Mike's old party trick was spitting into each other's mouths from a distance:

During the 21st CB tour he once spat a whole mouthful (literally) of spit into the face of guy who was causing trouble in the crowd. And I believe I heard when he was in the AI musical he showered the GDCers in the front row with saliva. Sorry to inform you of his legendary spitter status

[The Disappearing Boy]

Spitting is disgusting. Stop it Billie, or I'll tell your mum.

The thing with Mike's line in SDV is that it's a bit random, why is he singing just a single line, and not a whole verse or song?

[Pat1308]

The man is like a human sprinkler though! He's always spitting as he sings (especially in the early days) and his and Mike's old party trick was spitting into each other's mouths from a distance:

This video.

Anyways, that brings me to an idea (not necessarily unpopular) I have - I think the Trilogy as a whole floundered because they put most of the good (in Trilogy terms) songs on Uno, leaving Dos and Tre with 90% of the filler. Uno might have been a promising beginning for the Trilogy, but the other two albums didn't live up to what one might have expected.

P.S. I actually like the acoustic version of Stay the Night. Yes, I have uttered a blasphemy.

[Jollyroger118]

Spitting is disgusting. Stop it Billie, or I'll tell your mum.

The thing with Mike's line in SDV is that it's a bit random, why is he singing just a single line, and not a whole verse or song?

I've always wondered if Mike wrote that line and that's why he got to sing it

Anyways, that brings me to an idea (not necessarily unpopular) I have - I think the Trilogy as a whole floundered because they put most of the good (in Trilogy terms) songs on Uno, leaving Dos and Tre with 90% of the filler. Uno might have been a promising beginning for the Trilogy, but the other two albums didn't live up to what one might have expected.

P.S. I actually like the acoustic version of Stay the Night. Yes, I have uttered a blasphemy.

I disagree completely I think Uno is the weakest of the three as most of the songs are rudimentary and plain. Dos is my favorite cause it carries its theme best but I think the really best songs from the trilogy are found mostly on Dos and Tre (Brutal Love, Lazy Bones, X Kid, Missing You, SWTRLF, Wild One, DRB, Stray Heart)

And I've said I love the acoustic Stay The Night a bunch of times. Even though I know it technically sucks I think its amazing

[Anaïs.]

Anyways, that brings me to an idea (not necessarily unpopular) I have - I think the Trilogy as a whole floundered because they put most of the good (in Trilogy terms) songs on Uno, leaving Dos and Tre with 90% of the filler. Uno might have been a promising beginning for the Trilogy, but the other two albums didn't live up to what one might have expected.

P.S. I actually like the acoustic version of Stay the Night. Yes, I have uttered a blasphemy.

IMO, Uno is the weakest of the three and Tre has the best material. Uno is the same song over and over again for most of the album.

[Pat1308]

IMO, Uno is the weakest of the three and Tre has the best material. Uno is the same song over and over again for most of the album.

I agree Tre is at least better than Dos, in terms of strong songs. (I'll argue that Dos is actually the weakest link in the trilogy.) But IMHO even Tre kinda ends on a limp note: read DRB and The Forgotten. (99 Revolutions is a bit meh, but the Demolicious version made me realize its potential.)

[Anaïs.]

I agree Tre is at least better than Dos, in terms of strong songs. (I'll argue that Dos is actually the weakest link in the trilogy.) But IMHO even Tre kinda ends on a limp note: read DRB and The Forgotten. (99 Revolutions is a bit meh, but the Demolicious version made me realize its potential.)

I agree that Uno's ending is stronger, but I don't count DRB as weak (in the context of the album, anyway--on any other Green Day album...). Let's face it, the lyrics suck ass but it's incredibly fun to listen to.

[Hermione]

Three different favourites out of Uno Dos and Tre in three posts! I think that shows it's not particularly unpopular to prefer or not prefer any of them.

And yeah the technical quality of the acoustic demo of Stay The Night is pretty much irrelevant I'd say, that's not the point of it or where the charm of it lies.

[Todd]

IMO, Uno is the weakest of the three and Tre has the best material. Uno is the same song over and over again for most of the album.

I think Uno is the best of the trilogy, and Dos is the weakest, and is the same song over and over. Tre is great, but I don't know how to compare it to the other two

[The Disappearing Boy]

Tre is a billion times better than the other two, and acoustic Stay the Night is pretty cool too.

[Sauli]

To me Dirty Rotten Bastards sounds like a copy, a sequel with not much inspiration. It feels like whilsf most of the earlier multi-part compositions (bar American Eulogy) were inspired, spirited efforts and the unconventional song structures never felt forced or the main appeal of theirs but DRB on the other hand is an example of what happens when the form matters more than pure genuine inspiration.

I don't know, I just despise that song. But of course, it may be because of those words...

[DookieLukie]

In other news, I'm still utterly baffled as to why liking Mike's part in Sex, Drugs and Violence is considered an unpopular opinion. Like, what's not to love about it? It's the only bit of the song worth listening to.

I don't get why it's such a great part. If anything, it seems shoehorned in. Do people like it just because Mike is singing?

[Spike]

I don't get why it's such a great part. If anything, it seems shoehorned in. Do people like it just because Mike is singing?

I like it because it's Mike's singing, the lyric itself is awesome and fits in really well with the rest of the song, and musically it's a nice little segue into the second verse without being too repetitive and bland.

[Jollyroger118]

To me Dirty Rotten Bastards sounds like a copy, a sequel with not much inspiration. It feels like whilsf most of the earlier multi-part compositions (bar American Eulogy) were inspired, spirited efforts and the unconventional song structures never felt forced or the main appeal of theirs but DRB on the other hand is an example of what happens when the form matters more than pure genuine inspiration.

I don't know, I just despise that song. But of course, it may be because of those words...

Yepp that's how I feel too though I do love the first part tat repeats at the end but the whole fucking song is pointless and goes nowhere

[DookieLukie]

I like it because it's Mike's singing, the lyric itself is awesome and fits in really well with the rest of the song, and musically it's a nice little segue into the second verse without being too repetitive and bland.

I think it would have fit in better if there was another Mike part in the song. To me it's really random that they insert him for just that line. Plus, I really don't like Mike's voice.

[Sauli]

Yepp that's how I feel too though I do love the first part tat repeats at the end but the whole fucking song is pointless and goes nowhere

Yes it indeed has some pieces that are promising and would work in different contexts. Some of those melodies are good truly. But they make no sense, neither musically or lyrically, when thrown together.

A pale attempt to try to re-achieve the glories of the past songs that are of similar structure, that is what it is.

[Spike]

Yes it indeed has some pieces that are promising and would work in different contexts. Some of those melodies are good truly. But they make no sense, neither musically or lyrically, when thrown together.

A pale attempt to try to re-achieve the glories of the past songs that are of similar structure, that is what it is.

I think where it really falls down is the transitions. The parts themselves are all fine, even the carried away verse is passable, but the song just goes along then suddenly it's off in another direction and it's just too jarring. One of the things that makes JOS work so well is how naturally it flows between contrasting sections.

[Sauli]

I think where it really falls down is the transitions. The parts themselves are all fine, even the carried away verse is passable, but the song just goes along then suddenly it's off in another direction and it's just too jarring. One of the things that makes JOS work so well is how naturally it flows between contrasting sections.

Exactly, the case of taking the form over everything else. "we have these bits, we dunno what to do with them, lets throw them together and it becomes a classic like JoS. No matter if they don't fit well together since its a goddamn multipart song and its cool"

Personally, I think all the other parts are musically good or passable (lyrics are atrocious though), buy that Carried Away part has absolutely no appeal to me. It is simply too derivative and predictable.

And yes, JOS may indeed be my favourite amongst compositions like that. It's amazing how one thinks- at least I do- JoS as a song and I don't even always realise it could aswell be called a medley of shorter songs. Like, I couldn't imagine myself listening only a one part of it separately from the others. JoS is an experience. Everytime. As a whole.

[The Disappearing Boy]

I agree with Lukie; Mike's line seems shoehorned in. It doesn't fit. When I remember hearing it, I thought 'great Mike's singing for a bit!', then I felt kinda let down when Billie took over. Not anything to do with Billie, just coz it wasn't Mike.

As for DRB, I do like it overall. Though at the same time, I know it's pretty bad. It's great until the solo, but after the solo you've got 'California's burning down' (a, no it isn't and b, where the hell did that come from); a repeat of the first bit (is the record stuck?) and the 'Carried Away' part (boring, repetitive and what are you carried away about?!) It should have ended after the solo.

[Spike]

As for Holiday, I do like it overall. Though at the same time, I know it's pretty bad. It's great until the first chorus, but after the first chorus you've got 'Can I get another amen' (a, no and b, where the hell did that come from); a repeat of the chorus (is the record stuck?) and the 'bass solo' part (boring, repetitive and why are you speaking German?) It should have ended after the first chorus.