Anaïs. Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 You lost me. Either way, this isn't a formal debate so Fallacy Man, that's who. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 That is a very convincing explanation. However, it seems like a very adult topic for an 8 year old who might be singing it. On the offchance that an 8 year old would be singing it, I actually think it's quite good that they'd be singing about a social issue like that. Far better than the recent favourite amongst the kids, "rack city bitch rack rack city bitch, ten ten ten twenties on your titties bitch, got my other bitch fucking with my other bitch, fucking all night nigga we ain't celibate." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green day is Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Fallacy Man, that's who. You're appealing to authority right now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Are you really making ignorant comments about rap when Hermione's online? Brave. As for Drama Queen, I take it you're referring to the "old enough to bleed" line? Because I used to feel that way until Hermione convinced me I was wrong Lol I couldn't be bothered. But yeah, there's good rap lyrics and bad rap lyrics, and good rock lyrics and bad rock lyrics, there's good and bad in every genre of music so it's silly to generalize about a whole genre based on the bad. And excellent . I think about ten thousand people have explained that line on here over the years though, I can't take any credit! It is referencing periods which might be gross to some people, but it's as a metaphor for a young female celebrity (the subject of the song according to the band) becoming old enough to be exploited by the media and her family through being pushed into fame too young. She's old enough to literally bleed by menstruating, and metaphorically "bleed" as in deal with problems as an adult and start to earn and get exploited for money by everyone with a stake in her fame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaïs. Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 You're appealing to authority right now! It's madness! Actually I'm not. You asked who cared, I answered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARVESTER Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 On the offchance that an 8 year old would be singing it, I actually think it's quite good that they'd be singing about a social issue like that. Far better than the recent favourite amongst the kids, "rack city bitch rack rack city bitch, ten ten ten twenties on your titties bitch, got my other bitch fucking with my other bitch, fucking all night nigga we ain't celibate." There has been a definate change of perception because of that... so "picking the lesser of two evils" is the way to go in this case? I gotta agree with Billie Joe Armstrong... learn the songs first then turn the sound off when the bad lines are about to be said... And excellent . I think about ten thousand people have explained that line on here over the years though, I can't take any credit! It is referencing periods which might be gross to some people, but it's as a metaphor for a young female celebrity (the subject of the song according to the band) becoming old enough to be exploited by the media and her family through being pushed into fame too young. She's old enough to literally bleed by menstruating, and metaphorically "bleed" as in deal with problems as an adult and start to earn and get exploited for money by everyone with a stake in her fame. So this exploitation is a lot like a mental version of child marriages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 explain my signature then and all of its glorious context Pretty certain I already have more than once before . I think it's just a nice simple, positive message to end the albums on, to embrace the now, the future (or to put it another way live in the "moment" and look forward to "tomorrow" rather than fearing/"looking away from" those things and living the past), and love. After all the shit that's happened, a full blown mid life crisis and drunken binges and flings and the rest of it, those are the things that matter in the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 explain my signature then and all of its glorious context Ooh, ooh, I'll do it! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 So this exploitation is a lot like a mental version of child marriages? I don't know, maybe nothing as bad as that. Back when the song was going to be on 21st CB Billie explained that it's about young female stars who are pushed into fame too young by their families, given that info I think that interpretation of that line makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I don't know, maybe nothing as bad as that. Back when the song was going to be on 21st CB Billie explained that it's about young female stars who are pushed into fame too young by their families, given that info I think that interpretation of that line makes sense. Are we back to question drama queen lyrics again - Zack Jones & I had this out many months ago - or have I got the wrong song again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z J Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Are we back to question drama queen lyrics again - Zack Jones & I had this out many months ago - or have I got the wrong song again. I didn't weigh in because i remember it then, I got nowhere once why try again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Are we back to question drama queen lyrics again - Zack Jones & I had this out many months ago - or have I got the wrong song again. Yeah, and same line as usual of course. I think it's the most discussed line in the history of GDC! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 Yeah, and same line as usual of course. I think it's the most discussed line in the history of GDC! More than BMX-cellent tits?! Are you sure? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 More than BMX-cellent tits?! Are you sure? Well it has a few years on it but there's always time for it to catch up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 More than BMX-cellent tits?! Are you sure? Yeah how can a 42 year old man write stuff like that Love that line btw I didn't weigh in because i remember it then, I got nowhere once why try again It was fun though - many pages talking about a girls first period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z J Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Yeah, and same line as usual of course. I think it's the most discussed line in the history of GDC! We don't have to bring up the same ones every time. I don't wanna suicide, I don't want this to endI just wanna be your friend or Well she just wants to get me highStick a needle in my eye are examples of some not-so-great lines from Lady Cobra. There are more, but these are two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 We don't have to bring up the same ones every time. Well she just wants to get me highStick a needle in my eye are examples of some not-so-great lines from Lady Cobra. There are more, but these are two. This line is excellent - come on whats wrong with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z J Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 This line is excellent - come on whats wrong with that. Seems like rhyming for the sake of rhyming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Seems like rhyming for the sake of rhyming No its in context of the song - lady cobra is a quick & punchy song & fits perfectly on DOS. Hermione will back me up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z J Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 No its in context of the song - lady cobra is a quick & punchy song & fits perfectly on DOS. Hermione will back me up. I'm reading the lyrics and I'm not saying it doesn't make sense I'm saying it was a lame rhyme and a bad line Also: a piece of shit would fit perfectly with Dos as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I'm reading the lyrics and I'm not saying it doesn't make sense I'm saying it was a lame rhyme and a bad line Also: a piece of shit would fit perfectly with Dos as well haha - well we disagree again. I guess it comes back to the bases of the trilogy - don't take it too seriously/have a bit of fun with it. (& I know we will never agree on that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z J Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 haha - well we disagree again. I guess it comes back to the bases of the trilogy - don't take it too seriously/have a bit of fun with it. (& I know we will never agree on that) But the trilogy has a ton of serious subject matter. They did lighthearted spins on serious subjects far better on Dookie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwise Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 It's ridiculous how much I prefer the trilogy to Dookie on every level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z J Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 It's ridiculous how much I prefer the trilogy to Dookie on every level. I loathe you kidding but seriously 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 It's ridiculous how much I prefer the trilogy to Dookie on every level. /thread /forum /life as we know it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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