Popular Post solongfromthestars Posted October 30, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2016 I don't think the issue with Youngblood is that people are misunderstanding the sentiment. I didn't think he was trying to write from a teenager's point of view or anything like that - even if he was it wouldn't bother me, because I don't actually take issue with a guy his age writing about infatuation, sex, etc. I never understood the disgust over that content on the trilogy, tbh. I also don't mind simple and/or cheesy love songs. It's just that I find Youngblood's lyrics weak and somewhat nonsensical regardless of the sentiment. I actually think most of the trilogy love songs capture some of the feelings he was trying to convey in Youngblood better, which I guess is also an unpopular opinion? Because even though people hate Youngblood I assume they hate the trilogy more 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Just now, Maria Gloria said: I don't think the issue with Youngblood is that people are misunderstanding the sentiment. I didn't think he was trying to write from a teenager's point of view or anything like that - even if he was it wouldn't bother me, because I don't actually take issue with a guy his age writing about infatuation, sex, etc. I never understood the disgust over that content on the trilogy, tbh. It's just that I find Youngblood's lyrics weak and somewhat nonsensical regardless of the sentiment. I actually think most of the trilogy love songs capture some of the feelings he was trying to convey in Youngblood better, which I guess is also an unpopular opinion? Because even though people hate Youngblood I assume they hate the trilogy more I would actually take some of the better Trilogy songs over Youngblood, undoubtedly Stay The Night at least. Some of the Trilogy is a bit off coming from a 40-year-old (I mean...Sweet 16? That's just creepy.), but it's generally not so blindingly twee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DookieLukie Posted October 30, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2016 10 minutes ago, Libertine Angel said: It's playful and sweet to excess though, it's so unrelentingly saccharine, love is so much more than just happy sparkles and he captured that a fuckload better when he was 18. Maybe because when you're young, love is dramatic and unstable, but now that's he's wiser and mature, he looks back at it as a really special time. Also, the lyrics aren't about "sunshine and sparkles." But again, I think the lyrics are so much less cringey because of the music surrounding them. The song is like being high on love. Also, the whole part leading up to and including "fuck you I'm from Oakland" is incredibly funny and critical of the "sunshine and rose" mentality. He's literally pouring his heart out to her with a bunch of cliched and pining questions, and she's like "eh, I don't buy that sissy crap." 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Just now, DookieLukie said: Maybe because when you're young, love is dramatic and unstable, but now that's he's wiser and mature, he looks back at it as a really special time. Also, the lyrics aren't about "sunshine and sparkles." But again, I think the lyrics are so much less cringey because of the music surrounding them. The song is like being high on love. I'd expect a wiser, more mature perspective to have a bit more depth to it than that mindless bounciness really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Just now, Libertine Angel said: I'd expect a wiser, more mature perspective to have a bit more depth to it than that mindless bounciness really. Why can't a mature adult have fun? Back to what I said before, why does he have to be void of restless, youthful emotion? Maybe he still feels those things for his wife, and you're going to call that a bad thing? Maturity = misery? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solongfromthestars Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 20 minutes ago, Libertine Angel said: I would actually take some of the better Trilogy songs over Youngblood, undoubtedly Stay The Night at least. Some of the Trilogy is a bit off coming from a 40-year-old (I mean...Sweet 16? That's just creepy.), but it's generally not so blindingly twee. Sweet 16 is about his 16th wedding anniversary though But yeah, he did still write about a young girl in other songs so I guess if that's something that bothers you it's still a valid point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Just now, DookieLukie said: Why can't a mature adult have fun? Back to what I said before, why does he have to be void of restless, youthful emotion? Maybe he still feels those things for his wife, and you're going to call that a bad thing? Maturity = misery? Depth = / = negativity. Sure, be happy about it, be fun, but put some thought into it. Only Of You is a pure love song but it's so much better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I'm not saying Youngblood is the best love song. 80, Only of You, etc are probably better lyrically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrybr Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I think some of you are expecting something that youngblood is not. For me, it's a song about the explosive feeling of have just falled in love. It's not a song that wants to make a deep reflection about love, or look at the complexity or issues of some relationship or infatuation. I thinks it's much simplier, and not less interesting to me. It's all about the overwhelming feeling of meeting someone and falling in love with that person. It's almost like he's so excited that he needs to tell about that person and how awesome she is, and talk to her like "hey, are you like me? do you wanna hang around?". I don't think that 80 or Only Of You, two great song by the way, have this same spirit. Perhaps those songs are better than youngblood, but I don't think that makes youngblood a silly song or a bad song. But, of course, it's ok to deslike the song, i just think that the song fits its purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wretched & Divine Posted October 31, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2016 Some of you guys seem to want a lyrical masterpiece out of him in every single song he writes, and I find that a little ridiculous Youngblood obviously was never meant to be anything more than a fun and catchy throwback to when he was first pursuing Adrienne, looking on it now with a sense of fondness. It paints such a cute picture of young/insecure Billie falling in love with this woman who exudes confidence in herself, and how much that appeals to him. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrybr Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Oh, and I also like Sweet 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spike Posted October 31, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2016 I hated Youngblood at first. I don't like it much now, but I can listen to it. It's a fun song because of its energy, and at least it sounds like they mean it. I get the impression it's what the Trilogy would have sounded like if they'd had any quality control and done it properly. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrybr Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 29 minutes ago, Spike said: I hated Youngblood at first. I don't like it much now, but I can listen to it. It's a fun song because of its energy, and at least it sounds like they mean it. I get the impression it's what the Trilogy would have sounded like if they'd had any quality control and done it properly. I guess maybe i'm in the right topic to say this, but i think many trilogy songs are better than youngblood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 9 minutes ago, henrybr said: I guess maybe i'm in the right topic to say this, but i think many trilogy songs are better than youngblood. Not fair to judge every trilogy song against Youngblood but we can do Sweet 16 since they're both songs about his wife and Youngblood is times better than Sweet 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 1 hour ago, Wretched & Divine said: Some of you guys seem to want a lyrical masterpiece out of him in every single song he writes, and I find that a little ridiculous Youngblood obviously was never meant to be anything more than a fun and catchy throwback to when he was first pursuing Adrienne, looking on it now with a sense of fondness. It paints such a cute picture of young/insecure Billie falling in love with this woman who exudes confidence in herself, and how much that appeals to him. This is so true. They need to chill and have fun and not have to be so serious about music all the time. Green Day clearly do it so so can their hardcore fans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 9 hours ago, Maria Gloria said: I don't think the issue with Youngblood is that people are misunderstanding the sentiment. I didn't think he was trying to write from a teenager's point of view or anything like that - even if he was it wouldn't bother me, because I don't actually take issue with a guy his age writing about infatuation, sex, etc. I never understood the disgust over that content on the trilogy, tbh. I also don't mind simple and/or cheesy love songs. It's just that I find Youngblood's lyrics weak and somewhat nonsensical regardless of the sentiment. I actually think most of the trilogy love songs capture some of the feelings he was trying to convey in Youngblood better, which I guess is also an unpopular opinion? Because even though people hate Youngblood I assume they hate the trilogy more I leave off the better because I really love Youngblood (agreeing with all the positive posts about it here!) but yeah I agree! Sweet 16 is also romantic and nostalgic about their early days and then comes back to the present and I think it's great. I don't find either that or Youngblood totally saccharine, there's a little dose of grittiness in the scruffy/punk descriptions of the past and in Sweet 16 it's acknowledged that "the kids are alright, alright as they'll ever be", they're romantic songs but not totally unrealistic. And 8th Avenue Serenade is just wonderful , capturing wanting to keep the spark of a relationship alive beautifully. Also love Stay the Night, Missing You and Fell For You as love songs, and even See You Tonight/Fuck Time I know a lot of people dislike the one night stand Dos stuff and make it one of their main complaints about the albums, but there's a lot of romantic love/relationship songs on the trilogy too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solongfromthestars Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I think you guys are misinterpreting the people who dislike Youngblood. It's not that we expect lyrical masterpieces in every song or are unable to chill and enjoy a fun song. I like Fuck Time and even enjoy Troublemaker (the same simple/fun logic applies to those lyrically but they still don't appeal to some people). Some of us just can't get on with Youngblood's lyrics regardless of the sentiment and that's all it is. I still listen to it as part of the album and enjoy it otherwise. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Young Blood is the greatest Green Day song ever written. Sorry, had to. I enjoy the song and unlike the rest of you, it's lyrics don't confound or confuse me. It's a good song. If we're going to hate, anyone else hate Haushinka? That song blows over the rainbow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwise Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I think Amy is very under rated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 10 minutes ago, thatdude03 said: If we're going to hate, anyone else hate Haushinka? That song blows over the rainbow! Hmm yeah it might be the worst song on Nimrod. I like it well enough, especially in combination with Jinx. But I do think the fact that it was originally written years before (Kerplunk times apparently) shows, lyrically it isn't on the same level as the rest of the album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaddi. Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I'll probably be ripped apart for this, but I think Revolution Radio sounds a lot like the trilogy at times. Some songs on there are a lot better, but some are not at all and might as well have been on the trilogy (Youngblood, Too Dumb To Die, Say Goodbye). Revolution Radio is nowhere near AI or 21st CB for me, unfortunately. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wretched & Divine Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 24 minutes ago, Kaddi. said: I'll probably be ripped apart for this, but I think Revolution Radio sounds a lot like the trilogy at times. Some songs on there are a lot better, but some are not at all and might as well have been on the trilogy (Youngblood, Too Dumb To Die, Say Goodbye). Revolution Radio is nowhere near AI or 21st CB for me, unfortunately. I don't know if I'd say it sounds like the Trilogy, but its definitely a departure from the sheer size of AI and 21CB. I don't know if that makes sense. Those records just sound so big in every aspect, and I think a lot of that has to do with their ambition. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to scale back and "downgrade" if you want to call it that. RevRad isn't a favourite for me, but then nothing is ever a favourite anything of mine until I've given it anything from 6 to 18 months, or in the case of a film, at least 5 watches in the span of at least a year. RevRad reminds me a lot of Nimrod, which is a favourite of mine, so it's all good signs so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solongfromthestars Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 2 hours ago, Kaddi. said: I'll probably be ripped apart for this, but I think Revolution Radio sounds a lot like the trilogy at times. Some songs on there are a lot better, but some are not at all and might as well have been on the trilogy (Youngblood, Too Dumb To Die, Say Goodbye). I agree that if I had to say what RevRad is closest to in terms of sound, I'd definitely say the trilogy. I do like both though so it's not an issue for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leni. Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 3 minutes ago, Jake69 said: Walking Alone is the worst song on nimrod by a long shot imo. I have to disagree. There's no song on that album which my ears wouldn't like to hear. And here's my shiny unpopular opinion: I even love Last Ride In on that record 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaddi. Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 52 minutes ago, Wretched & Divine said: I don't know if I'd say it sounds like the Trilogy, but its definitely a departure from the sheer size of AI and 21CB. I don't know if that makes sense. Those records just sound so big in every aspect, and I think a lot of that has to do with their ambition. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to scale back and "downgrade" if you want to call it that. RevRad isn't a favourite for me, but then nothing is ever a favourite anything of mine until I've given it anything from 6 to 18 months, or in the case of a film, at least 5 watches in the span of at least a year. RevRad reminds me a lot of Nimrod, which is a favourite of mine, so it's all good signs so far. I love them for exactly that big sound. For me, it is as if Green Day showed what they are actually capable of on these two albums and it's incredible. I also love all their older albums, but it is as if they've taken a big step forward with AI and proceeded into that direction with 21st CB. To this day, AI is still the only album that I like every single song on. I was scared 21st CB might not be as good, but it was. Well, and then came the trilogy which was obviously a huge step backwards. Now everyone is acting as if Revolution Radio is as good as AI or 21st CB, but for me it's not. It's just a better version of the trilogy. The songs are a bit better (some of them), but the sound is still the same and the quality of the album is nowhere near what GD are capable of (in my opinion). There are a few very good songs on it (Still Breathing, Revolution Radio, Bang Bang), but the rest is... only okay. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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