Blasphemy & Genocide: Unpopular Green Day Opinions, Part 2

[AlissaGoesRAWR]

I thought why do you want him was the first song he wrote?

He said Road to Acceptance was the first song he wrote about racism. Don't Leave Me was the first they ever played as a band, and yeah, I think Why Do You Want Him? was the first one he wrote.

[Hermione]

And Android is a great song, the lyrics/rhyme scheme are very good for his age and it's just another sparkling example of the pop-punk sound that would influence so many.

In the first verse he rhymes "crazy" with "crazy". In the second verse he rhymes "crazy" with "crazy". I wouldn't say that rhyming scheme is very good for any age . It is a good song and but for me the rhyming (frightening and lightning is also pretty bad) and parts of the lyrics are a bit cringy and make it the worst on the album, even if his age does somewhat excuse it and it's kind of cute.

[Chin for a Day]

In the first verse he rhymes "crazy" with "crazy". In the second verse he rhymes "crazy" with "crazy". I wouldn't say that rhyming scheme is very good for any age . It is a good song and but for me the rhyming (frightening and lightning is also pretty bad) and parts of the lyrics are a bit cringy and make it the worst on the album, even if his age does somewhat excuse it and it's kind of cute.

This is the guy who has written such lines as:

"Trial by fire, setting fire"

"I'll never turn back time, forgetting you but not the time"

Does anything surprise you? It is an established pattern of behavior. I actually look forward to hearing how badly he can rhyme things.

[captain peroxide]

That line in Whatsername bothers me so much, because it's the only thing wrong with an otherwise perfect song.

[AlissaGoesRAWR]

In the first verse he rhymes "crazy" with "crazy". In the second verse he rhymes "crazy" with "crazy". I wouldn't say that rhyming scheme is very good for any age . It is a good song and but for me the rhyming (frightening and lightning is also pretty bad) and parts of the lyrics are a bit cringy and make it the worst on the album, even if his age does somewhat excuse it and it's kind of cute.

Coming from someone who thinks Troublemaker's lyrics AREN'T cringe-worthy? C'mon now.

[The Disappearing Boy]

I'm pretty certain there's nothing wrong with repeating the same word in a song

[Chin for a Day]

That line in Whatsername bothers me so much, because it's the only thing wrong with an otherwise perfect song.

I agree 100%. The song is perfect, the vocals are perfect, the lyrics are almost perfect, that one line blows the perfection. He could have used climb or even crime and it would have worked.

I'm pretty certain there's nothing wrong with repeating the same word in a song

It is if you are trying to properly rhyme.

[captain peroxide]

Repeating words is actually quite a good thing to do for artistic effect and emphasis, but you can't rhyme a word with itself. That's just... awful.

Hence, my headcanon for that last bit is "Forgetting you were mine / Forgetting you, but not the time."

[AlissaGoesRAWR]

Repeating words is actually quite a good thing to do for artistic effect and emphasis, but you can't rhyme a word with itself. That's just... awful.

Hence, my headcanon for that last bit is "Forgetting you were mine / Forgetting you, but not the time."

But the line about not turning back time is so poignant, because it shows the narrator knows what he had, but he still wouldn't want to go back and do it all again...

Isn't there any other way to fix it?

Actually, y'know, despite being a grammar nazi, the double-rhyme doesn't even bother me that much. It took me 9 years to notice it because the song is so good.

[Chin for a Day]

Repeating words is actually quite a good thing to do for artistic effect and emphasis, but you can't rhyme a word with itself. That's just... awful.

Hence, my headcanon for that last bit is "Forgetting you were mine / Forgetting you, but not the time."

That works very well. I think you should collaborate with Billie from now on.

[captain peroxide]

That works very well. I think you should collaborate with Billie from now on.

Implying I haven't already.

[Chin for a Day]

Implying I haven't already.

You would never rhyme time and time.

[captain peroxide]

You would never rhyme time and time.

He chose to ignore my advice for that song.

[Z J]

In the first verse he rhymes "crazy" with "crazy". In the second verse he rhymes "crazy" with "crazy". I wouldn't say that rhyming scheme is very good for any age . It is a good song and but for me the rhyming (frightening and lightning is also pretty bad) and parts of the lyrics are a bit cringy and make it the worst on the album, even if his age does somewhat excuse it and it's kind of cute.

In the first verse, the repetition is clearly intentional. It's a curt observation, meant to be overly simplified. You can't look at only the last two words and judge a rhyme scheme, either. Because the second verse has a pay off and it's the line:

"Or did he hide away from hopes

Behind a smile and smoking dope"

This is a pretty good line for an 18 year old, which reads to me as auto-biographical, even though he's referring to another person, he's talking about himself as well.

There's also:

"It makes me wonder when I grow to be that age

Will I be walking down the street begging for your spare change"

That's not only a good rhyme, but an impressive fit syllabically, he really did a good job fitting all those words in to the melody. And then the continuation from this line:

"Or will I grow that old?

Will I still be around?

The way I carry on I'll end up

Six feet underground

And waste away..."

With "away" being a bookend on the "soft a" sound of the pre-chorus. Then "on" falls as a near-rhyme with "around" in the song and it's internal, another impressive fit with the melody.

It's not their best lyrically, but I respect the hell out of any 18 year old who can fit words in to a melody the way he does, and this scheme/lyric is a pretty good one.

It is if you are trying to properly rhyme.

That's not true, phrases ending in the same word is a useful and valid technique. The problem with "Whatsername" is the fact that the sounds prior to the last word also don't work together and there is no obvious meaning to the repetition device. With Android, it certainly makes more sense and is also separated by another phrase.

Coming from someone who thinks Troublemaker's lyrics AREN'T cringe-worthy? C'mon now.

*retweets*

[The Disappearing Boy]

I agree 100%. The song is perfect, the vocals are perfect, the lyrics are almost perfect, that one line blows the perfection. He could have used climb or even crime and it would have worked.

It is if you are trying to properly rhyme.

Maybe he wasn't trying to rhyme?

Honestly though the repeating words has never bothered me. Maybe it's because I don't really pay much attention to / set much store by lyrics.

[Hermione]

Coming from someone who thinks Troublemaker's lyrics AREN'T cringe-worthy? C'mon now.

Troublemaker's lyrics are deliberately silly and crass so they don't make me cringe, they were knowingly written to be that way. (Some of) Android's are just really awkward and it wasn't deliberate, they're meant to be serious, which is what creates the cringe

In the first verse, the repetition is clearly intentional. It's a curt observation, meant to be overly simplified. You can't look at only the last two words and judge a rhyme scheme, either. Because the second verse has a pay off and it's the line:

"Or did he hide away from hopes

Behind a smile and smoking dope"

This is a pretty good line for an 18 year old, which reads to me as auto-biographical, even though he's referring to another person, he's talking about himself as well.

There's also:

"It makes me wonder when I grow to be that age

Will I be walking down the street begging for your spare change"

That's not only a good rhyme, but an impressive fit syllabically, he really did a good job fitting all those words in to the melody. And then the continuation from this line:

"Or will I grow that old?

Will I still be around?

The way I carry on I'll end up

Six feet underground

And waste away..."

With "away" being a bookend on the "soft a" sound of the pre-chorus. Then "on" falls as a near-rhyme with "around" in the song and it's internal, another impressive fit with the melody.

It's not their best lyrically, but I respect the hell out of any 18 year old who can fit words in to a melody the way he does, and this scheme/lyric is a pretty good one.

That's not true, phrases ending in the same word is a useful and valid technique. The problem with "Whatsername" is the fact that the sounds prior to the last word also don't work together and there is no obvious meaning to the repetition device. With Android, it certainly makes more sense and is also separated by another phrase.

*retweets*

We're not going to agree about all the rhymes but yeah there's some good lyrics too, and he makes some intelligent and thoughtful observations in the song. There's just a few lyrics and rhymes in there that jar with me.

[Guest]

Android is worse than Dominated Love Slave? C'mon now. That's just insulting.

BITCH I WILL CUT YOU

[AlissaGoesRAWR]

BITCH I WILL CUT YOU

BRING IT, PIKACHUMP!

I've been compared to a Flareon before.

[Guest]

I've been compared to a Flareon before.

Because you're tiny and spew fire?

Also, you know that Flareon is, by far, the worst Eeveelution, right?

[AlissaGoesRAWR]

Because you're tiny and spew fire?

Also, you know that Flareon is, by far, the worst Eeveelution, right?

Fiery temper. Plus the bangs.

And yeah, I know statistically I'd lose against a fair share of Pokémon in a fight, but I'd like to think I'm scrappy enough to hold my own.

[Guest]

And yeah, I know statistically I'd lose against a fair share of Pokémon in a fight, but I'd like to think I'm scrappy enough to hold my own.

Against a Rattata, maybe. Possibly a Metapod. I'd throw Magikarp out there, but they're water type and you'd never be able to do enough damage to beat them.

[evredika]

Ok, I have to talk about it to somebody, because when I first saw it, I like freaked out (and not in a good way ). Still bothers me. That moment in the Bullet in a Bible, when Billie does a hand job....have to admit, it was a bit of too much punk for me . Especially because much of their fans are not only underage, but little kids. What do you think? Didn't see anywhere people discussing it.

[Chin for a Day]

Ok, I have to talk about it to somebody, because when I first saw it, I like freaked out (and not in a good way ). Still bothers me. That moment in the Bullet in a Bible, when Billie does a hand job....have to admit, it was a bit of too much punk for me . Especially because much of their fans are not only underage, but little kids. What do you think? Didn't see anywhere people discussing it.

If that bothered you than don't look up the ones where he drops his pants.

Seriously though, it doesn't bother me but I don't think it is,necessary. He is sexy as hell and that actually distracts from his sexiness. I don't think he has done that in awhile. BIAB is 10 years old

Fyi he really used to drop his pants in stage.

[Panda]

Ok, I have to talk about it to somebody, because when I first saw it, I like freaked out (and not in a good way ). Still bothers me. That moment in the Bullet in a Bible, when Billie does a hand job....have to admit, it was a bit of too much punk for me . Especially because much of their fans are not only underage, but little kids. What do you think? Didn't see anywhere people discussing it.

The most kids have already seen dirtier things, we're in the 21 century. He already performed naked

He doesn't care what people think about it, that's what I like about him.

[evredika]

If that bothered you than don't look up the ones where he drops his pants.

Seriously though, it doesn't bother me but I don't think it is,necessary. He is sexy as hell and that actually distracts from his sexiness. I don't think he has done that in awhile. BIAB is 10 years old

Fyi he really used to drop his pants in stage.

Somehow I find the pants dropping more funny and less dirty

Yea, the later shows are less crazy...the man just grows up

The most kids have already seen dirtier things, we're in the 21 century. He already performed naked

He doesn't care what people think about it, that's what I like about him.

He was a teenager when he performed naked...I take more easily all the crazy stuff they did being almost kids themselves.

And yea, the "I don't give a fuck what everyone think" attitude is what I love about the band...need to adopt it partly in my life too