Dolphin Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 My heart. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Armstrong Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Where did all the trilogy love come from People who like the trilogy, probably. Would my opinion on it be considered unpopular? I thought it might, but I'm not super familiar with this community yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I'm not familiar with here too I love the trilogy though, and that love came from my heart I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maid Meringue Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Where did all the trilogy love come from I was thinking the exact opposite a couple days ago I think the albums should have credit where it's due. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I 100% agree. I was thinking the exact opposite a couple days ago I think the albums should have credit where it's due. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Armstrong Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 This may constitute an unpopular opinion, here is my album ranking. DISCLAIMER: I love all of these albums. 1. 21st / AI (you can't make me choose) 2. Nimrod 3. Kerplunk 4. The Trilogy 5. Insomniac 6. Warning 7. Dookie 8. 1039 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 It's so hard to pick because they are all so good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Since it's been awhile, I'll start the Trilogy rant. The Trilogy could have been okay if it hadn't been the Trilogy. As it was produced, it's a poorly compiled, retconned mountain of slop. If Green Day had sat down and culled out the 13 or so good songs mixed in there and made one album out of them, it would have been a decently successful album. They could have released a couple of B-side albums if they REALLY thought everything on there deserved to see the light of day (highly debatable). Songs like "Troublemaker," "Little Boy Named Train," "Loss of Control," all of Dos, etc., frankly made me cringe with embarrassment at being a Green Day fan. There's really no acceptable reason for Green Day making this public of an embarrassment out of themselves. The Trilogy is on the whole mercifully forgettable, its subject matter is inappropriate to the stage of life Green Day is in, besides being poorly handled, and the project as a whole was a huge let-down. The lyrical content, the music, the production, all of it lacked Green Day's signature cleverness and punch. I would be happy with some of the Trilogy if it had been produced 20 years ago, but it represented a huge step back for a Green Day that gave us Dookie, American Idiot, Nimrod, and even Warning. Nimrod and Warning embody the idea of Green Day experimenting with their sound. American Idiot and Dookie were ground-breaking. They made you sit up and pay attention. The Trilogy makes you cringe a bit and/or puts you to sleep. Add on to all of that the fact that Billie was a walking disaster through the promotion for it (and honestly seemed not to give a single shit about it), the rehab disaster, the tour cancellations, the lack of any sort of fanfare about the releases of Dos and Tre, the whole Trilogy era is just something I'd like to package up and shove into the very darkest recesses of Green Day history, never to see the light again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaïs. Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 To go back to my old "Green Day are going to break up" rant, which I curtailed for a while after Jimrod made it embarrassing—unfortunately, the Trilogy carries all the hallmarks of a band on the edge of collapse. It's exactly the same thing as Let It Be or Who Are You—a smattering of great stuff mixed in with an embarrassing amount of filler and retread that sounds like even the band realizes they aren't trying anymore. Band members increasingly pursuing solo interests and acting bored, personal struggles eating up certain members' lives, concerts going downhill in terms of enthusiasm and by-the-numbers setlists. Signature elements of their sound ditched and replaced by nothing good. And, of course, awful production. And to be honest, if Green Day are going to continue in this direction, I'd rather not see them release anything else. I don't see how they can progress as a band, really—Billie seems to have exhausted the material he's capable of writing about, and if the guys refuse to move beyond their four-chord structure any new material is going to be indistinguishable from the old. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I won't say they have exhausted all material until they come out with a christmas album. Then they are done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Armstrong Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I'm sure people said things like this after Warning too. And look what came after that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaïs. Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I'm sure people said things like this after Warning too. And look what came after that. The difference being that Warning was actually a progression in terms of sound and wasn't recycling older material. And realistically, how often do AI-level comebacks happen twice? Ever? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maid Meringue Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I don't really care if they release a new album as a band. Yeah, it would be upsetting because it would be the end of my favorite band, and I'd never get to see them live, but they're still going to be friends and they're still going to be releasing things solo regardless. Would the forum just close after a while? :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Armstrong Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 The difference being that Warning was actually a progression in terms of sound and wasn't recycling older material. And realistically, how often do AI-level comebacks happen twice? Ever? Yeah, they did do a lot of "Green Day" songs, but I'm not going to fault a band for doing what they love. I wouldn't call it recycling old material, especially with songs as good as Let Yourself Go, Lazy Bones, and X-Kid. Anyway, there was a lot of branching out in The Trilogy, Kill The DJ is ironically danceable, See You Tonight is a nice little intro track, Lady Cobra is garage as fuck, Nightlife has a guest rap in it, and Brutal Love has a 50's vibe to it. Comebacks like AI hardly ever happen, and for it to happen twice is highly unlikely. But if there was ever a band to do it, it'd be Green Day. I don't really care if they release a new album as a band. Yeah, it would be upsetting because it would be the end of my favorite band, and I'd never get to see them live, but they're still going to be friends and they're still going to be releasing things solo regardless. Would the forum just close after a while? :/ I hope not, Green Day's legacy is too strong for the forum to close. There is still a Nirvana forum after all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maid Meringue Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Comebacks like AI hardly ever happen, and for it to happen twice is highly unlikely. But if there was ever a band to do it, it'd be Green Day. What are people expecting an "AI Comeback" to be? I'm pretty sure 21stCB was close to rehashing the formula. Is it the production, the lyrical content, the vocal range? What are people expecting when they say 'comeback' in terms of Green Day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Armstrong Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 What are people expecting an "AI Comeback" to be? I'm pretty sure 21stCB was close to rehashing the formula. Is it the production, the lyrical content, the vocal range? What are people expecting when they say 'comeback' in terms of Green Day? I assumed it was the enormous critical and artistic triumph. Not to mention the popularity of the album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwise Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I'm so excited about all this trilogy love! Since the trilogy came out, it's the GD release I listen to most often. I'm pretty sure it's my favorite thing they've ever done... Until the next album comes out! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine Angel Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Since we're going back over all our Trilogy opinions, I might as well add mine in - I like the vast majority of the Trilogy. Some songs aren't as good as others, but the only ones I'd get rid of are Nightlife and Ashley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z J Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I like the trilogy a whole lot. While the themes are kind of lost, I don't dislike any song from Uno Dos or Tre. I dig the sound, too. I love the classic Green Day tone, but the trilogy went a few new routes, and I think they pulled it off well. Nothing similar to their older works, really. Aside from power chords and time signatures. What are people expecting an "AI Comeback" to be? I'm pretty sure 21stCB was close to rehashing the formula. Is it the production, the lyrical content, the vocal range? What are people expecting when they say 'comeback' in terms of Green Day? An "AI comeback" in my opinion would be them releasing a universally acclaimed and grammy winning album after the sales mess that was the trilogy. Not that I think that would happen, but the trilogy era has lots of similarities to the Warning era, hence the comparisons, I think. I'm sure people said things like this after Warning too. And look what came after that. Circumstances have changed significantly, sure they could write something as good as AI musically (very unlikely at this point) but AI also came in an era where it was poised to make a huge impact, don't know if the stars are aligning for that to happen again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Out of all three I would have to say that Tre and Dos are my 2 favourites, Uno was great it's just those two were better, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I have gained an appreciation for the trilogy. However, it does have its faults. There are some really great songs on it. I think Brutal Love is one of their best songs ever. But, unlike their other records, when the song is bad, it is super bad and stands out more than the good. Plus, overall, lyrically, the trilogy is not up to Billies past standards. For them to make a successful comeback, they need to realize they will probably not top AI. I think a comeback can work If they focus on creating something great, but not trying to reproduce the success of AI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I have gained an appreciation for the trilogy. However, it does have its faults. There are some really great songs on it. I think Brutal Love is one of their best songs ever. But, unlike their other records, when the song is bad, it is super bad and stands out more than the good. Plus, overall, lyrically, the trilogy is not up to Billies past standards. For them to make a successful comeback, they need to realize they will probably not top AI. I think a comeback can work If they focus on creating something great, but not trying to reproduce the success of AI. Brutal love I will say comeback from what?? & don't reply Uno, Dos, Tre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I have gained an appreciation for the trilogy. However, it does have its faults. There are some really great songs on it. I think Brutal Love is one of their best songs ever. But, unlike their other records, when the song is bad, it is super bad and stands out more than the good. Plus, overall, lyrically, the trilogy is not up to Billies past standards. For them to make a successful comeback, they need to realize they will probably not top AI. I think a comeback can work If they focus on creating something great, but not trying to reproduce the success of AI. I agree 100%, and brutal love is so good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maid Meringue Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Brutal love is a great song but it would be better if it was shorter. After the 3rd minute I usually change it. See You Tonight wins all <3 also, Walk Away is totally underrated. I don't think there's a better song to sing along to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin for a Day Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Brutal love I will say comeback from what?? & don't reply Uno, Dos, Tre Would it be better if I said commercially and critically successful next record instead of comeback?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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