Popular Post Spike Posted August 1, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2014 Lol at people saying the forgotten is a bad song. Go listen to JOS if you want to hear a bad song Poor trolling attempt 0/10. I've literally never seen you successfully justify your dislike for AI at all. "I don't like other fans" isn't a good reason. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Disappearing Boy Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I definitely remember seagull (or maybe theanswer) saying it was a good album. I should have screencapped the post, cos no-one will believe me now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spike Posted August 2, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2014 I definitely remember seagull (or maybe theanswer) saying it was a good album. I should have screencapped the post, cos no-one will believe me now Not quite, but fucking BOOM. Why everyone thinks, that you are not a true green day fan if you started listening to them with american idiot. If everyone would be listening to them since sweet children, all the fans would be 40+ years older. The magic of music is that you can influence future generations with music you done before. For example I was born in 1993. You can't expact from me that the first album I would listen by them is Dookie or whatever. Their first album i listened was Warning in about 2002 or 2003 and afcourse then came AI, which was their biggest hit album. But if I started to listen them with warning, there is nothing wrong if you started with AI. What I am trying to say is. People should stop bothering why someone is a fan of Green Day and just enjoy the music. Source Oh, wait: AI is great album I just don't like the so called "fans" who only started listening Green Day when AI came out in 2004 and they call themselves "die hard" fans. Source 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Certified Nimrod Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Am I going to have to share my in-depth lyrical analysis of it again? Please do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 I admire you a lot right now. I'm also in awe at your lack of a life It took me under a minute Please do. Enjoy. Where in the world’s the forgotten? They’re lost inside your memory At this point, the 'forgotten' to which Billie is referring appears to be his ability to string a sentence together. The things lost inside his memory include a grasp of basic grammar and how good a lyricist he was 15 years ago. You’re dragging on, your heart’s been broken As we all go down in history Here, Billie seems to have been distracted from his songwriting and got caught up in a rousing rendition of Rudolph The Red Nosed Reindeer. Where in the world did the time go? It’s where your spirit seems to roam Like losing faith to our abandon Or an empty hallway from a broken home This verse tells the story of Billie going clubbing with Flava Flav, and later losing him in a graveyard. Quite what room an 'abandon' is is beyond me, but if someone has vandalised his house at some point this could be explained quite easily. Well don’t look away from the arms of a bad dream Don’t look away, sometimes you’re better lost than to be seen These lines seem to be implying that Billie has some kind of phobia of limbs which he is trying to overcome - a fear possibly engrained in him by his yellow Les Paul Junior, for we all know what damage his arms can cause to said instrument. This will not end well. As an aside, apparently if you don't look away you won't be seen. Maybe this song is about Stevie Wonder or, perhaps, Ray Charles. I don’t feel strange, it’s more like haunted Another moment trapped in time Billie clearly welcomes being haunted, and doesn't consider it strange. I'm glad he put that in such a figurative, eloquent way. I can’t quite put my finger on it But it’s like a child that was left behind Well he's clearly just given up at this point. Although quite how he manages to put his finger on it immediately after claiming he can't is rather indicative of substance abuse, isn't it? So where in the world’s the forgotten? Like soldiers from a long lost war We share the scars from our abandon And what we remember becomes folklore "Look guiz, I bought a rhyming dictionary!" There's that abandon he's talking about again. Maybe it was a soldier that vandalised his house. Well, don’t look away from the arms of a bad dream Don’t look away, sometimes you’re better lost than to be seen Don’t look away from the arms of a moment Don’t look away from the arms of tomorrow Don’t look away from the arms of a moment Don’t look away from the arms of love I don't quite know how one is meant to look at so many things at once, especially when it comes to non-tangible concepts, such as 'tomorrow'. What the arm of a moment is I do not know, but at this point it's quite apparent that these lyrics are the ramblings of a madman, so we should cut him some slack. Do the arms he is referring to contain the love from Oh Love, implying that Billie is, perhaps, raining from his appendages? So this song teaches us three things: 1) In conjunction with track 9 of Tre, we should walk away from things at the same time as maintaining eye contact at all times. Like this. 2) Billie fucking loves Twilight, and has successfully written a song insipid and nonsensical enough to provide the soundtrack to such a film. 3) Billie has fucking lost it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Thanks to Tom's analysis, The Forgotten has now topped Baby Eyes as my least favorite Green Day song. Thanks man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Certified Nimrod Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Thanks to Tom's analysis, The Forgotten has now topped Baby Eyes as my least favorite Green Day song. Thanks man. He was born to kill (The Forgotten). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauli Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 To be honest I don't find the lyrics of 21 Guns to be bad at all, or incomprehensible or anything. I like them. They make far more sense than that pocketful of shit called the Forgotten. The Forgotten is one of those songs I suppose I would enjoy with no hesitation if I didn't have the basic knowledge of English. Damn. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Disappearing Boy Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Not quite, but fucking BOOM. Source Oh, wait: SourceSeagull's secret is out. Thank you for taking the time to do this valuable detective work. Thanks to Tom's analysis, The Forgotten has now topped Baby Eyes as my least favorite Green Day song. Thanks man. Baby Eyes? Do you like the Demolicious version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauli Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Whilst reading those posts I can't help but wonder that it may be that Steven once was a decent and respectable contributor? If thats is true, it is quite sad to notice how low one can sink I suggest, I solemnly propose with a delightful heart, that everytime he bashes people who love AI the most or people who became fans because of it, we should answer with that post. Blah what a hypocrite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z J Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Not quite, but fucking BOOM. Source Oh, wait: Source That is the most confused logic I've ever seen. The first album I ever heard from them was AI. And it's 100% irrelevant to how die-hard of a fan I can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaïs. Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 That is the most confused logic I've ever seen. The first album I ever heard from them was AI. And it's 100% irrelevant to how die-hard of a fan I can be. I'm sure he realizes deep down that it's bullshit. He probably just got sucked into the "old Greenday rawk! nu Greenday sux!" camp too soon and is now overcompensating in his attempts to appear as a "true fan". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Certified Nimrod Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 One of his very first threads was a thread bitching about how Green Day didn't come "close enough" to him, when he lived a mere two or three hour car ride from one of their gigs in Europe. I would never go that far away for a concert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauli Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 One of his very first threads was a thread bitching about how Green Day didn't come "close enough" to him, when he lived a mere two or three hour car ride from one of their gigs in Europe. We all laughed at him. He got very angry. The usual Oh my god If I used that logic I would never do anything I would never go that far away for a concert. Location: New Jersey, NY. Strangely, I must confess I always thought you as a British person. I dunno why I only realised now that I checked it our that you actually are from the States instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaïs. Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Strangely, I must confess I always thought you as a British person. I dunno why I only realised now that I checked it our that you actually are from the States instead. Yay, the curse has passed from me to him! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Seagull Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I'm sure he realizes deep down that it's bullshit. He probably just got sucked into the "old Greenday rawk! nu Greenday sux!" camp too soon and is now overcompensating in his attempts to appear as a "true fan". Not true. I like the trilogy I just think AI and 21CB are garbage I can hate what I want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauli Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Yay, the curse has passed from me to him! "The curse"? I would die from happiness if I was mistaken to be a British person. And honestly, yes, at first I thought you as an Englishman too, certain aspects of yours give that impression plus the fact you are gonna study there, but then again, I remember reading some post where you revealed your origins (probably the member interview) plus the way you spell some words also suggest that you have American roots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klytaemnestra Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Yay, the curse has passed from me to him! don't be daft. the curse will forever be inflicted upon you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Just pointing out this isn't the "discuss Steven Seagull" thread , you can disagree with his unpopular Green Day opinions or post evidence that they're suspect if you want but we don't need a general discussion about any particular GDCer (or a discussion that seems to be drifting away from unpopular Green Day opinions in any case) here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 I would never go that far away for a concert. Such dedication. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I don't understand the hate for Baby Eyes. I found it really catchy from day one. Some of the lyrics are kind of confusing, like when he talks about the killing and the babysitting, but the melody is really nice. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaïs. Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 "The curse"? I would die from happiness if I was mistaken to be a British person. And honestly, yes, at first I thought you as an Englishman too, certain aspects of yours give that impression plus the fact you are gonna study there, but then again, I remember reading some post where you revealed your origins (probably the member interview) plus the way you spell some words also suggest that you have American roots. Nah, I'm just joking, I love it. Maybe once I go to Oxford the transformation will be complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE THE X-KID Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I don't understand the hate for Baby Eyes. I found it really catchy from day one. Some of the lyrics are kind of confusing, like when he talks about the killing and the babysitting, but the melody is really nice. yeah it's good, it's a bit different to Green Days usual stuff and I'd say it's one of the better trilogy songs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Certified Nimrod Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Oh my god If I used that logic I would never do anything Location: New Jersey, NY. Strangely, I must confess I always thought you as a British person. I dunno why I only realised now that I checked it our that you actually are from the States instead. What is New Jersey, NY? Thank you so much. Wait until you get a car and a job. You'd be amazed at how your traveling abilities/prospects open up I don't want to go that far away for a concert. Unless it was somebody's last show or something, it wouldn't be worth it imo. Such dedication. ikr bruh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauli Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 What is New Jersey, NY?A limited knowledge of geography, it is. Its only fair that since people in the US think Finland is somewhere near Greenland I can't tell the differences between the million states of the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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