WhiteTim Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 it has to do, when the sound quality is good , you just enjoy everything. from chorus, to the bridge, from the verse to, the SOLO, and when that's not great, you just suppose everything going like a car with a uniform velocity. Listen to say the rehearsal demo to Nirvana's Smells Like Teen Spirit very very crappy recording but you could tell it was going to be a bad ass song Sound quality don't reflect on the actual quality of the song State Of Shock isn't a bad song I'm not saying that but it's not that great of the song I think most people like it cause it sounds better than some of the songs on the trilogy in the great outlook of things State Of Shock I doubt would be in top 50 GD songs For the record I love crappy sounding recordings escp if they are unmixed or not mastered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 "Dookie Lukie has lame opinions". Is that an unpopular opinion? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain peroxide Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 State Of Shock isn't a bad song Yes, it is. I challenge any of the bafflingly large number of people in this thread who seem to like the song to tell me what's objectively good about it. None of the ideas in the lyrics are anything that Billie hasn't covered before, after, and more eloquently, and none of the music is anything that they haven't done before, after, and more interestingly. The only part of the song that is at all interesting is the "we want to go to heaven, but no one wants to die" bit, but that isn't enough to save what is otherwise a completely uninspired, half-assed attempt at a song. Hate on Nightlife, or Troublemaker, or Drama Queen all you want, at least those songs all try something new, even if they don't necessarily make it work. State of Shock seems like someone said to Billie, "write the most by-the-numbers, bland Green Day song you possibly can." 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Yes, it is. I challenge any of the bafflingly large number of people in this thread who seem to like the song to tell me what's objectively good about it. None of the ideas in the lyrics are anything that Billie hasn't covered before, after, and more eloquently, and none of the music is anything that they haven't done before, after, and more interestingly. The only part of the song that is at all interesting is the "we want to go to heaven, but no one wants to die" bit, but that isn't enough to save what is otherwise a completely uninspired, half-assed attempt at a song. Hate on Nightlife, or Troublemaker, or Drama Queen all you want, at least those songs all try something new, even if they don't necessarily make it work. State of Shock seems like someone said to Billie, "write the most by-the-numbers, bland Green Day song you possibly can." It's not the worst song they ever done nor is it the greatest it's just a good song for what it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 The only part of the song that is at all interesting is the "we want to go to heaven, but no one wants to die" bit, but that isn't enough to save what is otherwise a completely uninspired, half-assed attempt at a song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain peroxide Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) Well, I was talking about the melody / arrangement, not the lyrics. But thanks for pointing that out, I didn't know that line was lifted from someone else. It's not the worst song they ever done nor is it the greatest it's just a good song for what it is And what it is is shit. Edited June 27, 2014 by captain peroxide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 In short, the only good thing about State Of Shock is the line Billie didn't even write. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGLWW Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Yes, it is. I challenge any of the bafflingly large number of people in this thread who seem to like the song to tell me what's objectively good about it. None of the ideas in the lyrics are anything that Billie hasn't covered before, after, and more eloquently, and none of the music is anything that they haven't done before, after, and more interestingly. The only part of the song that is at all interesting is the "we want to go to heaven, but no one wants to die" bit, but that isn't enough to save what is otherwise a completely uninspired, half-assed attempt at a song. Hate on Nightlife, or Troublemaker, or Drama Queen all you want, at least those songs all try something new, even if they don't necessarily make it work. State of Shock seems like someone said to Billie, "write the most by-the-numbers, bland Green Day song you possibly can." So, you basically admit that troublemaker and nightlife are worse songs than state of shock but yet you like them better? State of shock is as good a b-side as maria, poprocks and coke, and hearts collide. I don't really think it tries to be more than that. In fact that was kinda the point of the song. Turns back the clock a bit. I enjoy songs like that more than almost everything from the trilogy or 21 CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 "Dookie Lukie has lame opinions". Is that an unpopular opinion? I defend the Trilogy constantly and everyone hates on me. Then I say one negative thing about the Trilogy and everyone STILL disagrees with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard of 1969 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 In short, the only good thing about State Of Shock is the line Billie didn't even write. And it's a newest song released from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 I defend the Trilogy constantly and everyone hates on me. Then I say one negative thing about the Trilogy and everyone STILL disagrees with me.The life of a Lukie is tough one 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 I defend the Trilogy constantly and everyone hates on me. Then I say one negative thing about the Trilogy and everyone STILL disagrees with me. Have better opinions then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifmemoryserves Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 i've never listened to all of demolicious so i just listened to state of shock for the first time... it's fine. not a stand out by any means but not the worst thing they've ever done. parts of the verses remind me of scumbag. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SfarrInsomniac Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 i've never listened to all of demolicious so i just listened to state of shock for the first time... it's fine. not a stand out by any means but not the worst thing they've ever done. parts of the verses remind me of scumbag. I fucking love state of shock admititly it's not my favorite but, I still love the feeling I get from listening to it I wish they would put a newer version on their next album Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Have better opinions then. I'm really out of loop with pop culture and the masses, so I get my opinions wrong every so often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Ok.....here it goes..... I found myself singing along with Troublemaker when it came up on shuffle..... I enjoyed it too. Oh the shame. I'll admit that this has happened to me at some point. I h8 myself. I guess that shows that it's not 100 percent shit, only mostly shit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akshat Jain Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Listen to say the rehearsal demo to Nirvana's Smells Like Teen Spirit very very crappy recording but you could tell it was going to be a bad ass song Sound quality don't reflect on the actual quality of the song State Of Shock isn't a bad song I'm not saying that but it's not that great of the song I think most people like it cause it sounds better than some of the songs on the trilogy in the great outlook of things State Of Shock I doubt would be in top 50 GD songs For the record I love crappy sounding recordings escp if they are unmixed or not mastered as said in Nice guys finish last video " There's no I in the band".. similarly, the song is judged on all aspects, its lyrics, it's sound, and it the quality is good, it sounds good to ears, and the neighbors also enjoy that stuff. plus the thing is, if you have great speakers, they'll deface soon, if you don't adjust the quality of music Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 as said in Nice guys finish last video " There's no I in the band".. similarly, the song is judged on all aspects, its lyrics, it's sound, and it the quality is good, it sounds good to ears, and the neighbors also enjoy that stuff. plus the thing is, if you have great speakers, they'll deface soon, if you don't adjust the quality of music Again sound quality doesn't mean anything when judging how good a song is... But then again what do I know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 Ok.....here it goes..... I found myself singing along with Troublemaker when it came up on shuffle..... I enjoyed it too. Oh the shame. Hey! You're giving me a heart attack. You're giving me a cardiac arrest when I'm sitting here reading this post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 PREACH! Seriously though, how can anyone not like Stay the Night? Trilogy aside, it's a wonderful song. And when put alongside a lot of shit songs on the trilogy, it then appears even that much better. You can actually tell that there's some soul and heart in it. To me, the song doesn't seem like some desperate hook up song ("stay the night with me, pretty girl") or anything like what most songs about this topic imply. The "we're only young tonight, there's no time left, come home with me tonight" theme is so popular in music today, and I feel like Stay the Night does it so much more poetically than any of the others, and with deeper meaning. It makes me think of two people who must separate for some reason, and truthfully only have one night left together and they'll never know what could have been because of some sort of outlying circumstances. Not a one night stand type thing. You can really feel that emotion, an almost desperate sadness, in the live version from Demolicious. And that bridge breakdown. Jesus. Christ. Especially the full version on Demolicious, or the version at the end of Cuatro... it's so wonderful! It's amazing to hear what came of the song that first surfaced on YouTube in 2010 from the soundcheck. I fell in love with it the minute I first heard it, and it's one of the few songs that wasn't ruined as a finished product on the trilogy. #preach'd 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Seriously though, how can anyone not like Stay the Night? Trilogy aside, it's a wonderful song. And when put alongside a lot of shit songs on the trilogy, it then appears even that much better. You can actually tell that there's some soul and heart in it. To me, the song doesn't seem like some desperate hook up song ("stay the night with me, pretty girl") or anything like what most songs about this topic imply. The "we're only young tonight, there's no time left, come home with me tonight" theme is so popular in music today, and I feel like Stay the Night does it so much more poetically than any of the others, and with deeper meaning. It makes me think of two people who must separate for some reason, and truthfully only have one night left together and they'll never know what could have been because of some sort of outlying circumstances. Not a one night stand type thing. You can really feel that emotion, an almost desperate sadness, in the live version from Demolicious. And that bridge breakdown. Jesus. Christ. Especially the full version on Demolicious, or the version at the end of Cuatro... it's so wonderful! It's amazing to hear what came of the song that first surfaced on YouTube in 2010 from the soundcheck. I fell in love with it the minute I first heard it, and it's one of the few songs that wasn't ruined as a finished product on the trilogy. #preach'd If I prayed I'd pray to you lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 If I prayed I'd pray to you lol I feel really passionate about Stay the Night not being a shitty song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 Seriously though, how can anyone not like Stay the Night? Trilogy aside, it's a wonderful song. And when put alongside a lot of shit songs on the trilogy, it then appears even that much better. You can actually tell that there's some soul and heart in it. To me, the song doesn't seem like some desperate hook up song ("stay the night with me, pretty girl") or anything like what most songs about this topic imply. The "we're only young tonight, there's no time left, come home with me tonight" theme is so popular in music today, and I feel like Stay the Night does it so much more poetically than any of the others, and with deeper meaning. It makes me think of two people who must separate for some reason, and truthfully only have one night left together and they'll never know what could have been because of some sort of outlying circumstances. Not a one night stand type thing. You can really feel that emotion, an almost desperate sadness, in the live version from Demolicious. And that bridge breakdown. Jesus. Christ. Especially the full version on Demolicious, or the version at the end of Cuatro... it's so wonderful! It's amazing to hear what came of the song that first surfaced on YouTube in 2010 from the soundcheck. I fell in love with it the minute I first heard it, and it's one of the few songs that wasn't ruined as a finished product on the trilogy. #preach'd EXACTLY. People seem to miss a vital part of the lyric that changes the whole tone of the song into something deeper (the pre-chorus, obviously). It's just perfect, and I guess on the surface it can seem a bit shallow but when you look into it it's actually really emotional. It was absolute perfection for me when it came out because it just connected with me on so many levels. And yeah, that breakdown is easily one of the best musical sections they've ever done. It just feels so epic, Mike actually showcases some creativity with the harmonics, and the rhythm in general makes it kind of euphoric but without being cheesy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 EXACTLY. People seem to miss a vital part of the lyric that changes the whole tone of the song into something deeper (the pre-chorus, obviously). It's just perfect, and I guess on the surface it can seem a bit shallow but when you look into it it's actually really emotional. It was absolute perfection for me when it came out because it just connected with me on so many levels. And yeah, that breakdown is easily one of the best musical sections they've ever done. It just feels so epic, Mike actually showcases some creativity with the harmonics, and the rhythm in general makes it kind of euphoric but without being cheesy. Exactly. Omg, so much STN love in this thread right now, I can't stand it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Stay The Night Brutal Love Missing You Lazy Bones are my top 4 songs easy I'll defend those songs to no end 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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