DookieLukie Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Punk rock. How so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post green day is Posted June 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2014 How so? She smashed the radio with the board of education Punk rock wasn't exactly radio-friendly when it first started. Turn up the static left of the state of the nation Before the skinheads showed up punk was primarily leftist. She's a rebel's forgotten son Punk was born out of a return-to-roots to rock music from the masturbation that is progressive, rock was considered "rebel" music for a while after it was born out of jazz. She is the first voice of the last ones in the line Punk wasn't made by or for the people in the upper classes, or "the first ones in line". Punk was very much the first time some people's voices were heard. She'll drag the lake to keep the vendetta alive To drag the lake means to attempt to find something you lost, as in how you'd drag a net across the bottom of a lake to find something important your dumbass dropped in there. Punk revival, bro, going strong in the underground since its father died. Bring in the head of the government The dog ate the document Somebody shot the President And no one knows where Maria went? "Real" punk died out pretty quickly, fockin new wave, man.... Maria, Maria, Maria, Where did you go? Where did punk go? Your breath lacks the conviction No more real punk. All these poseurs ain't got no conviction. x_X_tRuPuNx5eVr_X_x Drawing the line in the dirt And then suddenly... this is punk, this isn't punk, you're not a real punk if you like ______, etc. Shit's all metaphor, man. Maria's a personification. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Shit's all metaphor, man. Maria's a personification. Interesting never thought of it like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 She smashed the radio with the board of education Punk rock wasn't exactly radio-friendly when it first started. Turn up the static left of the state of the nation Up until the skinheads showed up punk was primarily leftist. She's a rebel's forgotten son Punk was born out of a return-to-roots to rock music from the masturbation that is progressive, rock She is the first voice of the last ones in the line Punk wasn't made by or for the people in the upper classes, or "the first ones in line". She'll drag the lake to keep the vendetta alive To drag the lake means to attempt to find something you lost, as in how you'd drag a net across the bottom of a lake to find something important. Punk revival, bro, going strong in the underground since it's father died. Bring in the head of the government The dog ate the document Somebody shot the President And no one knows where Maria went? "Real" punk died out pretty quickly, fockin new wave, man.... Maria, Maria, Maria, Where did you go? Where did punk go? Your breath lacks the conviction No more real punk. All these poseurs ain't got no conviction. x_X_tRuPuNx5eVr_X_x Drawing the line in the dirt And then suddenly... this is punk, this isn't punk, you're not a real punk if you like ______, etc. Shit's all metaphor, man. Maria's a personification. That's awesome. Thanks man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fukingcounterstrike Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Tubthumping is still my favorite GD song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green day is Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Tubthumping why is that even a word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 why is that even a word Because dumbass Dingles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Well, like I said, filler was the wrong word. But crappy useless songs on the album are as follows: Song of the Century. Boring, pointless way to open an album. Know Your Enemy. Great song live, boring and repetitive on the album. Christian's Inferno. Oh look, The Network is back. Last of the American Girls. Something about the lyrics is just really awkward to me. Like the song tries to hard to be about some mystery cool girl. Horseshoes and Handgrenades. Boring as fuck, nothing interesting happening musically or lyrically. See the Light. Repetitive, boring, and a really lackluster way to end an album. Honorable mention: 21 Guns. It's pretty, sure, but it's pandering so hard to the radio-friendly ballad market. The whole concept album that tells a story thing. It's like they're trying to tell a story but lost interest halfway through. Agree with pretty much everything, except I can typically tolerate LOTAG and H&H is one of my guilty pleasures. But yeah, 21CB = severely overrated, imo. On a vaguely related note, since Kay touched on it briefly, the way Billie writes about women is one of the things that made Green Day stand out in a big way. Part of the reason I abhor Dos so much is because it's such a massive departure from that empowering message that is Green Day's trademark, and instead we just get shit like Makeout Party and Fuck Time. People can argue that they're fun songs, and that's fine, but they're not what Green Day is about, and are completely at odds with their back catalogue that includes songs like She, Maria, 80, and so many others. This x 43252980467. I just can't wrap my head around the appeal of a Green Day song that uses a phrase like "bmx-cellent tits" to describe a woman, even if it is in jest. I mean, even songs like Jinx and Blood, Sex and Booze with themes of S&M have some class. Although Fuck Time is also a guilty pleasure... At least the live performances, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Bmx-cellent tits probably is worthy of its own thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Disappearing Boy Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 The person has tits like a BMX? Stop doing drugs, Billie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain peroxide Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 The person has tits like a BMX? Small, tough and good for doing tricks. I don't see a problem with his choice of metaphor. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 On a vaguely related note, since Kay touched on it briefly, the way Billie writes about women is one of the things that made Green Day stand out in a big way. Part of the reason I abhor Dos so much is because it's such a massive departure from that empowering message that is Green Day's trademark, and instead we just get shit like Makeout Party and Fuck Time. People can argue that they're fun songs, and that's fine, but they're not what Green Day is about, and are completely at odds with their back catalogue that includes songs like She, Maria, 80, and so many others. Yep. I mean, like you said, they're fun songs and with titles like that, obviously nuance isn't going to be plentiful, but they're just so try-hard and just show a regression in the way Billie writes about his feelings about women. I think he's capable of writing songs about sexual desire and lust that also maintain admiration and respect for the girls that he exhibits in songs like the ones you mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauli Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 That's what is called mid-life crisis. He's trying to get back his lost youth by writing songs like that. Poor fellah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 She smashed the radio with the board of education Punk rock wasn't exactly radio-friendly when it first started. Turn up the static left of the state of the nation Before the skinheads showed up punk was primarily leftist. She's a rebel's forgotten son Punk was born out of a return-to-roots to rock music from the masturbation that is progressive, rock was considered "rebel" music for a while after it was born out of jazz. She is the first voice of the last ones in the line Punk wasn't made by or for the people in the upper classes, or "the first ones in line". Punk was very much the first time some people's voices were heard. She'll drag the lake to keep the vendetta alive To drag the lake means to attempt to find something you lost, as in how you'd drag a net across the bottom of a lake to find something important your dumbass dropped in there. Punk revival, bro, going strong in the underground since its father died. Bring in the head of the government The dog ate the document Somebody shot the President And no one knows where Maria went? "Real" punk died out pretty quickly, fockin new wave, man.... Maria, Maria, Maria, Where did you go? Where did punk go? Your breath lacks the conviction No more real punk. All these poseurs ain't got no conviction. x_X_tRuPuNx5eVr_X_x Drawing the line in the dirt And then suddenly... this is punk, this isn't punk, you're not a real punk if you like ______, etc. Shit's all metaphor, man. Maria's a personification. Great explanation! Still cool that they'd choose a badass female character as the metaphor though, it's still a good indication of their attitude towards women and the way they're portrayed in their songs even if it isn't literal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 The true meaning of that line will be debated until the end of time. Maybe he thinks that bikes look like tits from the side. Or something. I'll just be eternally grateful he didn't go for skateboard-cellent fanny tbh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Just go back and read my amazing in depth interpretations of that line, all your questions answered That's what is called mid-life crisis. He's trying to get back his lost youth by writing songs like that. Poor fellah.I think he explored themes of a mid life crisis in the songs, looking at what would happen if those thoughts and temptations were given into, the good and bad consequences, and ultimately seeing (as shown in Amy and then the songs on Tre) that it's not such a good idea! I think he was exploring the idea of a mid life crisis with those songs rather than actually having one, which is a bit less worthy of pity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 It's not as good as Blondie's Maria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klytaemnestra Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Small, tough and good for doing tricks. I don't see a problem with his choice of metaphor. sorry, hang on. tough? like the expression "tough titties" or is that an actual desirable trait in a boob? :| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Disappearing Boy Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 sorry, hang on. tough? like the expression "tough titties" or is that an actual desirable trait in a boob? :| Perhaps that's what Billie likes when it comes to boobs. That line makes perfect sense now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Billie likes his boobs like he likes his women: Strong and tough. And tattooed with pigs sniffing glue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain peroxide Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 sorry, hang on. tough? like the expression "tough titties" or is that an actual desirable trait in a boob? :| Not for anyone with sense. And tattooed with pigs sniffing glue. And Winona Ryder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Disappearing Boy Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Hermione can keep her in-depth analyses of lines - we've definitely got to the bottom of this one! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 He should have gone with PMS-cellent tits because at least they'd be bigger and that'd make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain peroxide Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 He should have gone with PMS-cellent tits because at least they'd be bigger and that'd make sense. Essellent isn't a word. He should've gone with DMX-cellent tits. Dude's getting fat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 Essellent isn't a word. He should've gone with DMX-cellent tits. Dude's getting fat. And BMX-cellent is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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